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Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by dand124 on Wed Mar 14 22:40:51 2012

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/new-fox-poll-tilts-democratic_567585.html

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 14 23:34:49 2012, in response to Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by dand124 on Wed Mar 14 22:40:51 2012.

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The left controls this country. Fox does not want to be excluded from media buys on their networks, so they're caving in. It's the reason why Al Sharpton's radio show has leading national sponsors like McDonald's, Geico, and Kohl's and Hannity doesn't.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 00:46:50 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 14 23:34:49 2012.

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Fox does not want to be excluded from media buys on their networks, so they're caving in

That's not how they became #1.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 15 00:53:37 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 00:46:50 2012.

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So much for "scruples" among the moral majority. :)

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 02:15:10 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 00:46:50 2012.

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Sadly, the left is organized and has a lot more pull than the American groups who boycott. Fox News knows that they're at risk because people are dedicated to intimidating sponsors off their nets.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 02:38:42 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 02:15:10 2012.

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No, the left isn't that good. If they were, the entire USA would be a socialist state.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 15 03:39:06 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 02:38:42 2012.

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But according to you guys, it's been since what ... the 1940's in your case, and 2008 by most other accounts? :)

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Re: Conservative Magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 04:29:41 2012, in response to Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by dand124 on Wed Mar 14 22:40:51 2012.

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May 20th of last year, eh . . . ? I see your nervous breakdown still hasn't let up. Here's hoping it doesn't get any worse for you . . .

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 09:40:10 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 14 23:34:49 2012.

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Al Sharpton's show has a growing audience. That's why he has leading national sponsors like McDonald's, Geico and Kohl's.

Fact is the conservatives are losing audience in droves. The latest figures are rumored to be (Arbitron does NOT publish their stats) headed towards 6 figures for Lardmouth, and that's the biggest draw.

"The left" doesn't control the country, but they are gaining market share. Nor does Fox have a "liberal bias". Should the trends continue, they just might....once Ailes is history.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Mar 15 09:47:46 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 02:38:42 2012.

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You don't know the definition of socialist since you seem to spew it so freely.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 13:20:08 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 09:40:10 2012.

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Al Sharpton's show has a growing audience.

Where did you hear that? The comments section of a blog?

Truth is, he's on a station that pulls a 0.4 rating in the NY market.

LNA's advertise on Sharpton to pay tribute because he's an influential black activist who can cause them trouble. If there was consistency, they would not advertise on his show because he is controversial.

Fact is the conservatives are losing audience in droves. The latest figures are rumored to be (Arbitron does NOT publish their stats) headed towards 6 figures for Lardmouth, and that's the biggest draw.

Who said that? "Mike" in the comments section? Conservative radio ranks high in just about every key market in America but Philly and Boston. In LA it's #1 or #2. In omnicultural NY it does well.

"The left" doesn't control the country,

But they have the power and influence to scare McDonald's and other LNA's away from Rush, while they flock to filth like Al Sharpton. Leftism clearly has an edge.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 13:28:00 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 09:40:10 2012.

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Besides, the point here is that advertisers have stated that they don't buy time on conservative radio because it's "controversial". What they mean to say is, "White male conservative programming". Sharpton is very controversial, but who's gonna to boycott sponsors on his show?

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 14:03:59 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 13:20:08 2012.

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The trends show a growing audience. The advertisers see that. They go where the audience is. Rev Sharpton doesn't have anything like the influence you seem to think (or have been told by some RW blogger's as repeated by Lardmouth). He does have a growing audience, and that's what advertisers want to see. You numbers are old, current Arbitron ratings are NOT published. They charge for those.

As to Lardmouth, he's lost one third of his audience thus far:


http://www.americablog.com/2012/03/9th-and-10th-advertisers-drop-limbaugh.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/24/rush-limbaugh-ratings-tum_n_866022.html

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-05-23/entertainment/30096092_1_imus-limbaugh-premiere-radio-networks

http://inyourfaceradio.net/rush-limbaugh-ratings-drop/

http://www.adweek.com/news/press/ratings-drop-limbaugh-hannity-radio-shows-131954

Advertisers flock to where the audience is. They could care less about the content, they want bodies, and everyday they want more bodies. RW radio is losing them in droves. THIW.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 14:11:11 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 13:28:00 2012.

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No, they don't buy time on RW talk because it has no audience. They didn't seem to have a problem with it before last year. Wasn't any less controversial, wasn't any less full of lies and hate. It attracted listeners for better or worse. It doesn't anymore.

For whatever the motivations of listeners are, they're checking out Rev Sharpton more and more. I've heard people saying he's very entertaining (having briefly met the man once I can see that) but I do not own a radio so I have not had the opportunity to catch his show. As number grow, advertisers take notice. It is the growth that attracts them.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 14:26:52 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 14:11:11 2012.

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No, they don't buy time on RW talk because it has no audience.

They have a very large audience. In your home market it's #1 or #2 overall listenership. Around America, real American talk is extremely popular, beating most other formats. And I can back this statement up.


They didn't seem to have a problem with it before last year.

Yes they have. But things got worse when Obama became president because it magnified the race issue.


It attracted listeners for better or worse. It doesn't anymore.

Real American talk is seasonal. Ratings are high during election season. They drop in off season. Even a drop for Rush and Hannity still lands them well ahead of Sharpton or most radio formats.

For whatever the motivations of listeners are, they're checking out Rev Sharpton more and more.

There is no proof of that. And the point I'm making is that he's controversial like Hannity and Rush and should not get ad dollars from McDonald's. But we all know why he does. He's a black activist and companies are making a statement when they give him money.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 14:53:40 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 14:26:52 2012.

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RW talk radio's audience is roughly one third smaller today than it was just 6 months ago. It's been declining since the 2010 elections. They're not coming back, or that trend would be reversing by now, especially seeing how the RW is at the center of the republican primary contest.

That's enough to spook advertisers away. It's enough to make boycotts stick. That's already happening, as even you've observed. You can't deny reality, much as you may want to.

President Obama has been in office over 3 years now. These declines are just happening over the past year+, with the most severe drop occurring as the primaries got going. It has nothing to do with his election. That was a long time ago in newscycles.

Fact is, their sh*t is stale, it's old, it's full of hate and people are tired of hearing it. Real "real Americans" are seeing that.



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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 15:08:51 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 14:53:40 2012.

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How many real American(conservative commentary) radio stations have fallen in ranking in the last 2 or 4 years? In most of America they're still by far some of the most popular stations.

NYC
Chicago
LA
Tampa
Charlotte

Everywhere you go in America, real American radio ranks high, even if ratings have dropped off since the 2010 elections.

People like Hannity, Prager, Hewitt and Medved deserve national advertisers more than Sharpton does but their skin color and views prevent that from happening. There's no hate on any of their shows.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 15:15:53 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 15:08:51 2012.

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Not anymore.

THIW. REALly

The national advertisers don't want to touch RW talk. The audience is dwindling. Your numbers are old, and the latest are NOT available to you.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 15:23:54 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 15:15:53 2012.

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Nope. The most recent arbitron numbers show strong numbers for real Amercian radio in NYC, Chicago, Tampa and LA.

Even if ratings drop 30%, they still attract more listeners than most other formats. But the left has the power and momentum to scare advertisers away from highly rated shows like Hannity and Mark Levin. But of course, you can listen to Al Sharpton on a weak station like 1600 AM, ranting against white people moving in near Ben's Chili Bowl.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 15:31:49 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 15:23:54 2012.

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The most recent Arbitron numbers are not available to the general public for something like 6 months. Stations have to PAY (several thousand $$$ quarterly) for those books. You've been told this repeatedly. I used to work in the business. You apparently have not, or you would know that as well.

There are no national stats provided by Arbitron. They don't do that.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 15:40:55 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 15:31:49 2012.

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The most recent Arbitron numbers are not available to the general public for something like 6 months.

You make it up as you go along.


Stations have to PAY (several thousand $$$ quarterly) for those books. You've been told this repeatedly. I used to work in the business. You apparently have not, or you would know that as well.

I've been clear in stating I'm talking about rankings or "topline" which is available to the public and the most recent ranking from February are out. "The books" show demographics and average quarter hour ratings. I never said anything about those. But the topline ratings show the overall strength of real American(conservative) radio.


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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 15:44:23 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 15:40:55 2012.

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Proff.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 16:02:43 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 15:44:23 2012.

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Why can't you just admit that real American(conservative) radio is a force and still ranks high compared to other radio formats?

Arbitron.com has a form to fill out for free "topline" ratings.

Radionotas.com makes it easier by updating the "topline" ratings daily.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 16:08:48 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 16:02:43 2012.

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Why can't you prove what you're saying?

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 16:47:23 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 16:08:48 2012.

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Why can't you prove what you're saying?

Like "Mike" in the comments section of some blog?

The form is there and you can get free "topline" Arbitron. C?

http://arbitron.com/home/ratings.htm

There are websites all over the net that have permission to duplicate "topline" Arbitron rankings. Real American(conservative radio) is doing extremely well. And the ratings are just weeks old in the top markets.

C?

http://ratings.radio-online.com/

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 16:47:26 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 16:08:48 2012.

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Why can't you prove what you're saying?

Like "Mike" in the comments section of some blog?

The form is there and you can get free "topline" Arbitron. C?

http://arbitron.com/home/ratings.htm

There are websites all over the net that have permission to duplicate "topline" Arbitron rankings. Real American(conservative radio) is doing extremely well. And the ratings are just weeks old in the top markets.

C?

http://ratings.radio-online.com/

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 16:53:17 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 16:47:23 2012.

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Why don't youprove what you're saying? I'm not your f*cking Google.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 16:59:01 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 16:53:17 2012.

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Why don't youprove what you're saying? I'm not your f*cking Google.

No, but you are my fucking(you know).

You don't always provide a link so why should I? You can copy and paste like you made me do earlier.

As everyone here can see, Arbitron topline rankings are online and free.

Look at Tampa. Rush affiliate is #5 in the market. WABC continues to do well.

http://ratings.radio-online.com/







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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 17:14:53 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 16:59:01 2012.

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You don't understand. I could care less what Lardmouth's number are. I don't own a radio. I've read plenty recently (you saw some of the links) about the evaporating ratings for RW talk. IMO that's a good thing, the country needs less hate.

You made statement and you won't post the proff. I smell bullshit.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 17:26:36 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 17:14:53 2012.

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TWAT

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 17:27:01 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 15 17:14:53 2012.

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THIW



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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 15 17:28:48 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 17:27:01 2012.

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Does that mean that our resident fat-ass is lying again?

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 15 18:16:56 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 13:20:08 2012.

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Used to be that if you didn't do 2.0, you didn't make the book at all.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Mar 22 13:28:27 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 15 17:28:48 2012.

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No, it means Luch and you are card caring Right Wingers.

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Re: Olog-hai blah blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by dand124 on Thu May 17 14:28:25 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 04:29:41 2012.

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lol

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Re: Conservative Magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu May 17 14:38:53 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 15 04:29:41 2012.

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"I see your nervous breakdown still hasn't let up."

Have you run out of your meds yet?

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Re: Conservative magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 17 15:54:45 2012, in response to Re: Olog-hai blah blah blah blah blah blah, posted by dand124 on Thu May 17 14:28:25 2012.

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Guess I was hoping against hope, eh.

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Re: Conservative magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by DAND124 on Mon Aug 13 18:50:15 2012, in response to Re: Conservative magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 17 15:54:45 2012.

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lol

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Re: Conservative magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 13 19:13:52 2012, in response to Re: Conservative magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah, posted by DAND124 on Mon Aug 13 18:50:15 2012.

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. . . which makes your situation even sadder.

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Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 13 19:18:38 2012, in response to Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by dand124 on Wed Mar 14 22:40:51 2012.

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Corrected.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by DAND124 on Mon Aug 13 19:30:40 2012, in response to Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 13 19:18:38 2012.

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they claimed fox has liberal bias.

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Re: Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 13 19:33:24 2012, in response to Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 13 19:18:38 2012.

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But FOX News doesn't poll ... Rasmussen does. :)

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Re: Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 13 19:38:27 2012, in response to Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 13 19:18:38 2012.

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It's part of the "course correction" Ailes set in motion. Bump up the oversampling . . .

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Re: Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods

Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 13 19:45:47 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 13 19:38:27 2012.

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The best course for Ailes is straight to a Costa Rican retirement.

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Re: Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 13 20:07:52 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine criticizes FOX News polling methods, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 13 19:45:47 2012.

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I'd rather see him in the Marion Supermax.

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by DANd124 on Sat Oct 27 21:46:56 2012, in response to Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by dand124 on Wed Mar 14 22:40:51 2012.

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bump

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Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 27 21:48:47 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by DANd124 on Sat Oct 27 21:46:56 2012.

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Please remain on the line ... Olog will be with you shortly. :)

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Re: Conservative Magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 27 22:00:38 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by DANd124 on Sat Oct 27 21:46:56 2012.

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Go take your meds.

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Re: Conservative Magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah

Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Oct 27 22:04:52 2012, in response to Re: Conservative Magazine blah blah blah blah blah blah, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 27 22:00:38 2012.

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You both need drugs.

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Re: LOLOLOLOLLOLOL!!!!!

Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 27 23:21:18 2012, in response to Conservative Magazine Claims Fox News Has Liberal Bias, posted by dand124 on Wed Mar 14 22:40:51 2012.

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n/m

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