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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 10:02:35 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 16 09:52:45 2012. If you support Obama, it's still a bad idea to hope that the weakest candidate gets nominated to oppose him. If it were Obama vs Santorum (which it won't be), Obama could still lose, say if Israel bombs Iran and gas prices go to $8. |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 16 10:03:56 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 16 09:54:03 2012. It's unfortunately already too late. It's not back on the fact that people don't like Mitt Romney. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 11:06:43 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 16 09:55:19 2012. Maineman,Not really. The story here is that the "war on porn" is a family values issue, which is why it motivates leftists to react this way. THIW. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 11:16:45 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 08:30:01 2012. I used to live above a pizza place and a kosher bakery, and I wouldn't want to do either again. I still support the legality of pizza and baked goods.Of course you did. You're half Italian half Jewish and wanted to be close to the ethnic foods dearest to you. Would you mind if you wife patronized those two businesses? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 11:31:51 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 16 09:44:41 2012. Living above a restaurant produces consrant food smells. Porn shops do not.It wasn't the smells that were troublesome, it was the customers coming in and out, and in the case of the pizza joint, hanging around outside. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 11:38:44 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 11:31:51 2012. and in the case of the pizza joint, hanging around outside.If you had an issue with the pizza patrons, how would you feel about the adult book store patrons? Like if one of them started talking to your wife. Or said hello to your children. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 11:40:45 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 11:31:51 2012. These suburbanites. They just don't understand the concept of undesirably heavy foot traffic. :)I get irritated enough at the people who linger out front on their way to/from a movie theatre 300 feet away and bars 500 feet away. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 16 12:29:21 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 11:06:43 2012. The leftists don't want to lose their "prolefeed". |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 16 12:39:51 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 08:47:51 2012. Good post. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 16 12:40:40 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 16 09:48:08 2012. And once again, the scale of the example is entirely moot. Why is it so hard to see that? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 16 12:43:23 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 06:43:28 2012. Environmental issues are not private conduct. They have significant negative externalities. While children are also not private conduct by virtue that children are separate human beings and not chattel to be treated as you wish. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 16 12:52:34 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 11:06:43 2012. Exactly. "family values" issues are entirely objectionable. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 12:55:19 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 08:47:51 2012. I'm sure you would not mind a NY Times printing plant next door.I'm also certain that you would not mind if your wifey went into the conventional bookstore or florist, but would not be happy if she went to the xxx bookstore. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 12:58:06 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 12:55:19 2012. I'm sure you would not mind a NY Times printing plant next door.Surely you jest. I'd rather have a porn book store (though as Spider Pig points out, they hardly exist any more). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 13:11:31 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 12:58:06 2012. Surely you jest. I'd rather have a porn book store (though as Spider Pig points out, they hardly exist any more).So you would not mind the wifey going to an xxx book store? Spider-Pig is kind of wrong. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 16 13:19:52 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 13:11:31 2012. How am I "kind of wrong?" |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 13:23:11 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 16 13:19:52 2012. How am I "kind of wrong?"Because there are xxx book stores everywhere. They buy interstate billboards up and down 95. There are stores all over America and more visible than ever. There are probably fewer in NYC, but they show no sign of going away. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 13:42:49 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 13:11:31 2012. If she were to go to one, my attitude would not be different if it was next door vs half a mile away. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 13:50:39 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 13:42:49 2012. your attitude should be the same if she went to a florist as if she went to an xxx book store, no matter where it's located. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 13:57:59 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 13:50:39 2012. Huh?There are huge numbers of different types of business establishments that are legal and that I agree should be legal. My attitude toward my wife patronizing them varies depending on the type of establishment. I might for example feel a bit unsettled if she partronized this store, even though I fully support its right to exist: http://www.spystorenyc.com/ |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:12:39 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 16 12:40:40 2012. It's not hard to see at all. I don't agree with the comparison. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:13:07 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 09:57:59 2012. At a florist shop? How is there more traffic at a Florist shop than at some other shop? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:16:11 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 12:55:19 2012. Furthermore, I am sure wifey wouldn't mind him going to the conventional bookstore or the florist*, but would be pretty upset if he went to the porn shop. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:19:11 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 16 12:43:23 2012. They are separate human beings that also shouldn't be forced to eat what the government says they should, as opposed to what their parents want. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:21:31 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 11:31:51 2012. So now we are getting closer to the real reason in reference to porn shops. The clientele they attract. Personally, I rather have the clientele of a pizza shop than the clientele of a porn shop around. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:24:42 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 11:38:44 2012. Exactly. No one was admitting this. I just said something similar to that.It's safe to say most people would rather have a bar downstairs, and it's clientele than a porn shop, with it's clientele. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 14:27:04 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:13:07 2012. I don't want any shop next door. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 16 14:27:09 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 11:38:44 2012. What adult book stores?Please try to enter the 21st century one of these days. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:27:55 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 11:40:45 2012. Porn book shops don't usually have people congregating out front like a bar, or movie theater would. However, most would have much more problem with the Type of clientele it would attract. THAT is what no one was admitting here. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 14:31:08 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:24:42 2012. Having seen bar clientele and having seen porn shop clientele (about 3 blocks away, long closed), I prefer porn shop.Porn shop clientele are very discreet. They definitely are not out to attract attention. Bar clientele can make an awful lot of noise, especially at 4 AM. But as I said, I don't want either next door. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 14:33:46 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:27:55 2012. Type?Bar patrons are far louder. Porn shop patrons are almost all male. What other differences are there? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:47:23 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 14:27:04 2012. Yes. That is probably true, but if you had to live in let's say an apartment above stores, it's safe to say you rather be above a florist shop than a porn store. That's the point (don't bring up nonsensical sewage treatment plants or slaughter houses, as those aren't the same sort of retail/service businesses as a hair stylist, florist, or a porn shop. Those would be industrial, and not able to come into retail locations. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:50:17 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 14:31:08 2012. Unless it's a "tittie" bar or a "biker bar", most people would rather have the normal clientele a bar gets than the type of people that patronize a porn shop (or at least the stereotype of the type of people that patronize porn shops. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:57:35 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 14:33:46 2012. Bar patrons are louder for sure, but there is a scuzzy creapy stereotype to porn store patrons. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 14:57:45 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:27:55 2012. Porn book shops don't usually have people congregating out front like a bar, or movie theater would. However, most would have much more problem with the Type of clientele it would attract. THAT is what no one was admitting here.I'd rather have the porn shop than a bar or theater. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 15:03:23 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:47:23 2012. That is probably true, but if you had to live in let's say an apartment above stores, it's safe to say you rather be above a florist shop than a porn store.I'd worry about the florist attracting bugs. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 16 15:10:05 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 14:27:04 2012. Not even a delicatessen? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 15:10:28 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:21:31 2012. So now we are getting closer to the real reason in reference to porn shops. The clientele they attract. Personally, I rather have the clientele of a pizza shop than the clientele of a porn shop around.I'd rather have the clientele of a porn shop. They'll walk in, buy something, and leave, all relatively quietly, instead of hanging around eating and talking. The volume of customers would be a lot less, too. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 15:10:28 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 14:57:35 2012. Hmm. How does that scuzzy creepiness show itself, compared, say, to bar patrons? Do they make more lewd comments to women passing by? I would guess bar patrons do that more. Do they expose themselves in public more? Again, I suspect bar patrons do that more. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 15:11:07 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 15:03:23 2012. They don't.There are also laws against bugs on plants, and inspectors that make sure they don't have them. A fruit store probably attracts more bugs than a flower shop would. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 15:12:28 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 16 15:10:05 2012. Ripta would have far more "bugs" from a deli than a flower shop. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 15:13:17 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 15:10:28 2012. I rather have a theater patron talking to my child at the front door than a porn shop patron. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 15:24:13 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 16 15:10:05 2012. Definitely not a deli. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 15:26:52 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 15 14:29:33 2012. I will continue this argument on Sunday or Monday. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 15:42:45 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 15:13:17 2012. I rather have a theater patron talking to my child at the front door than a porn shop patron.I'd rather not have any stranger talking to my child on the street. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 15:49:04 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 16 15:42:45 2012. And the kid would also acquire a far more colorful vocabulary from overhearing bar patrons shouting at each other outside than he would from listening to porn shop clients talking on the street. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 17:22:14 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 15:49:04 2012. Yes, but just think of what the porn people are talking about.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 17:24:49 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 15:24:13 2012. A deli or food service establishment is among the worst to have. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 17:27:48 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 17:22:14 2012. Nothing. they don't want to attract attention. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 17:28:28 2012, in response to Re: Santorum advocates war against pornography, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 17:24:49 2012. Agreed. Roaches. |
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