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Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 11 19:04:44 2012

Can't believe no one mentioned this:

Link

I have a pretty strong guess as to the general 'why'. My only question, other than an explanation in his words, is why it took so long for someone to break.

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Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans

Posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 11 19:17:37 2012, in response to Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 11 19:04:44 2012.

"Karzai said the incident shows “great oppression and cruelty” toward the people of Afghanistan, according to a statement from his office. “The people of Afghanistan want full reports and clarity on the incident’s details from the United States of America,” Karzai said."

At the risk of someone accusing me of supporting the killer, I would say to Karzai: "As soon as you produce full reports and clarity of Afghan soldiers under your command murdering American soldiers over a perceived insult to a book."


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Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 11 20:16:59 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans, posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 11 19:17:37 2012.

+100

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Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans

Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Mar 11 20:51:20 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans, posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 11 19:17:37 2012.

Tell the fucker that either those lice get their shit together or us and Russia will get together and divy up the land after nuking the people.

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Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Mar 11 21:13:00 2012, in response to Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 11 19:04:44 2012.

No matter when we leave this Allah forsaken rathole, it is going to sink into Taliban chaos. Like Iraq will, in a few months!

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Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans

Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 11 21:59:30 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans, posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 11 19:17:37 2012.

I read the Afghans are blocking an investigation into their air force being involved in smuggling and heroin distribution, and the Afghan solder who shot and killed 8 US soldiers last year was in their air force. How about that, Karzai...you miserable walking turd.

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Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 11 23:54:02 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Mar 11 21:13:00 2012.

Because they never wanted freedom.

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 12 19:31:44 2012, in response to Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 11 19:04:44 2012.

Reuters via Yahoo News

U.S. soldier in Afghan massacre had brain injury: official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) — The U.S. Army staff sergeant accused of the massacre of 16 villagers in Afghanistan on Sunday was treated for traumatic brain injury after being in a vehicle that rolled over in Iraq in 2010, a U.S. official said on Monday.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it was premature to state whether there was any link between the 2010 injury and the Afghanistan incident.

(Reporting by Missy Ryan; Editing by Will Dunham)


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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 12 19:59:53 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 12 19:31:44 2012.

weak ass excuse

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by mr mabstoa on Mon Mar 12 20:34:29 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 12 19:59:53 2012.

You certainly are!

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 12 21:20:55 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by mr mabstoa on Mon Mar 12 20:34:29 2012.

WB . . . where've you been lately?

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 12 23:47:43 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by mr mabstoa on Mon Mar 12 20:34:29 2012.

no you

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 12 23:47:45 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by mr mabstoa on Mon Mar 12 20:34:29 2012.

no you

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 12 23:48:50 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 12 21:20:55 2012.

hiding with his weak self

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 12 23:49:30 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 12 19:31:44 2012.

It may be premature to speculate...but just based on the 2010 injury, it really begs the question as to why he was allowed back on the front lines.

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Mar 13 00:53:23 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 12 21:20:55 2012.

Working and dealing with my wife's death, but I pass through every now and then.
Thanks for asking!

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Mar 13 00:54:04 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 12 23:48:50 2012.

Direct response!


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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Mar 13 00:54:22 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 12 23:47:43 2012.

direct response 2

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Mar 13 00:55:02 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 12 23:47:45 2012.

direct response 3 repeater category!


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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Mar 13 01:33:24 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Mar 13 00:53:23 2012.

Sorry to hear of your loss. Been wondering where you've been as well.

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 13 03:06:12 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Mar 13 00:55:02 2012.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Obama promises "full force of law" on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 18:02:15 2012, in response to Army sergeant kills 16 Afghans, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 11 19:04:44 2012.

Yup, that's when we could not "jump to any conclusions" at the outset. It's OK to jump to conclusions here, it seems. Major Hasan had his trial delayed last month, as well.

CBS Snooze

March 13, 2012 11:56 AM

Obama promises to use "full force of the law" in response to Afghan killings

Updated at 12:22 p.m. ET

(CBS News) President Obama on Tuesday vowed to hold whoever was responsible for the killing spree in Afghanistan that left 16 civilians dead over the weekend "fully accountable," directing the Pentagon to "spare no effort" in conducting a full investigation to find out what happened.

"The United States takes this as seriously as if it were our own citizens and our own children who were murdered," Mr. Obama said from the White House Rose Garden. "We're heartbroken over the loss of innocent life."

A U.S. soldier, now in U.S. custody, has been accused of killing the civilians in their homes in the middle of the night between Saturday and Sunday and then burning some of their corpses. Afghan President Hamid Karzai said nine of those killed were children and three were women.

Mr. Obama called the killings "outrageous and unacceptable" and said, "It's not who we are as a country, and it does not represent our military."

"We will make sure anybody who was involved is held fully accountable with the full force of the law," he added.

Mr. Obama met on Monday with the top American military commander in Afghanistan, General John Allen, and U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan Ryan Crocker, and the president said Tuesday he has "extraordinary confidence" in them as well as the troops in Afghanistan. Mr. Obama meets later Tuesday with British Prime Minister David Cameron and will discuss the way forward in Afghanistan in preparation for the upcoming NATO summit.

"Make no mistake," Mr. Obama said. "We have a strategy that will allow us to responsibly wind down this war. We're steadily transitioning to the Afghans who are moving into the lead, and that's going to allow us to bring our troops home."

In a set of interviews with local broadcast stations on Monday, Mr. Obama stressed that there shouldn't be a "rush for the exits" in Afghanistan in the wake of tragedies like this killing spree. He said the incident wouldn't impact the timetable for the United States and its NATO allies to hand over security control to the Afghans by the end of 2014.

Today, Mr. Obama noted that the U.S. is scheduled to remove 23,000 troops by the end of this summer, following the 10,000 that were withdrawn last year.There are now about 91,000 U.S. forces in Afghanistan.

"There's no question that we face a difficult challenge in Afghanistan, but I am confident that we can continue the work of meeting our objectives, protecting our country, and responsibly bringing this war to a close," he said.


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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 13 18:28:33 2012, in response to Obama promises "full force of law" on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 18:02:15 2012.

What an idiot. The reason that there was no need to call for the "full force of law" in Fort Hood is because it was implied.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 18:29:00 2012, in response to Obama promises "full force of law" on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 18:02:15 2012.

That's how extremist leftists like Obama think.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 18:32:20 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 18:29:00 2012.

The man doesn't even pretend to be a uniter or something like that. Regrettably, whomever votes for him will get what they ask for, and it won't be what they think it is.

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Re: Army Sergeant goes nuts over healthcare loss

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:33:25 2012, in response to Obama promises "full force of law" on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 18:02:15 2012.

The times square bomber was blamed on a white guy mad at Obamacare, so why hasn't Mayor Doomberg and NBC claim this fellow wet nuts over the loss of his health benefits to pay for a million dollar stadium in Cuba?

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:34:09 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 13 18:28:33 2012.

"implying" things don't get a Senator elected. A show and 3 hour speech does.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:35:55 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 18:32:20 2012.

"Regrettably, whomever votes for him will get what they ask for"

We all get what they ask for. When I go to walmart and the price of everything, even flour is skyrocketing, gas is doubling, electricity is skyrocketing, foreclosures are skyrocketing, we can all thank dickwads that support this like smaz, bingbong, clearaspect and all. We all pay for these peoples decisions.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 18:35:57 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 18:32:20 2012.

The real problem is, he's been on a far extremist leftist Disneyland for his first term, when he's hoping for reelection. Just think of the far extremist things he would attempt to do when there's no check or caring on if he's reelected.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 13 18:50:24 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:34:09 2012.

Implying things is how most politicians get elected. Truth don't work ...

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 13 18:56:46 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Mar 13 00:54:22 2012.

zzzzzzzzz

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:57:42 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 13 18:50:24 2012.

Then you should write a letter to the underexposed president. They think that being on TV on a hugo chevez like frequency is what does it.
I bring up Senators because they're known for talking for days straight.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 13 18:59:01 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:57:42 2012.

I don't have to ... some of us have a clue. :)

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 19:00:25 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 13 18:56:46 2012.

WAKE UP ASSHOLE !!!


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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 13 20:00:49 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 19:00:25 2012.

ladies first

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 13 20:35:56 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 18:29:00 2012.

Another useful idiot.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 13 21:15:25 2012, in response to Obama promises "full force of law" on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 18:02:15 2012.

brilliant post.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 22:57:38 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 13 18:28:33 2012.

+1

So far this thread is hilarious.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 13 23:32:26 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 22:57:38 2012.

what's funny about it? it's interesting to note the different approaches taken when a Muslim is the suspect and when they're the victims.

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Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 13 23:34:54 2012, in response to Re: Army sergeant who killed 16 Afghans has brain injury, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 12 23:49:30 2012.

Manpower shortage in the army?

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 23:41:14 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 13 23:32:26 2012.

The full force of law is evident in both cases, silly. sheesh.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 13 23:44:47 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 23:41:14 2012.

I didn't say it wasn't.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 23:46:55 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 13 23:44:47 2012.

Alrighty then. Might tell the OP.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 13 23:52:12 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 23:46:55 2012.

It is interesting that Obama urged people to use caution and not jump to conclusions with Hasan. He was worried about backlash against Muslims in the US.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 13 23:52:12 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 23:46:55 2012.

It is interesting that Obama urged people to use caution and not jump to conclusions with Hasan. He was worried about backlash against Muslims in the US.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 00:03:46 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 13 18:28:33 2012.

Not by the obama apologists here. The call was for no rush to judgement.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 00:07:38 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 00:03:46 2012.

No rush to judgement doesn't preclude the full force of law.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 00:10:51 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 00:07:38 2012.

In the current situation, there will be a rush to judgement because the obama administration will want to appease our "allies" in Afghanistan. After this soldier is "dispatched" with great fanfare, then maybe they will get down to why with his alleged brain trauma he was allowed back into combat and by whom.

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 00:15:04 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 00:10:51 2012.

It's more a cleanup of an international incident than it is appeasement of anyone.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 00:18:38 2012, in response to Re: Obama promises ''full force of law'' on Army sergeant (Afghanistan), but Fort Hood . . . ?, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 00:15:04 2012.

You mean human sacrifice, don't you?

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