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Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 12:14:42 2012

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story here

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 15 14:19:53 2012, in response to Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 12:14:42 2012.

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As did Ronald Wilson Reagan.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:29:01 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 15 14:19:53 2012.

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Who cares?



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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 15 14:29:44 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:29:01 2012.

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Shows it's a goal that used to be non-partisan.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 14:29:47 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 15 14:19:53 2012.

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So?

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:34:38 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 15 14:29:44 2012.

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What Reagan did 30 years ago has nothing to do with what Obama is proposing today. It makes no sense.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 15 14:46:16 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:34:38 2012.

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If anything, we need the stuff less today than then.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:49:04 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 15 14:46:16 2012.

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North Korea is building up. So is Iran. Russia and China are already forces and so no signs of slowing down. So why would the US want to reduce it's stockpile now?

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 15 14:50:06 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:49:04 2012.

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Because if we ever need them, the ass hole figures that we can buy them from Korea, Iran, Russia or China

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 14:54:41 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:49:04 2012.

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Because we have enough to pulverize the Soviet Union 10 times over. But there is no Soviet Union. North Korea is a bit easier to pulverize.


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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 16:55:13 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 14:29:47 2012.

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Hmmm ... Obama does it, big problem. Reagan does the same, no problem. Hmmm. :)

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 18:53:32 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 15 14:50:06 2012.

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Yeah . . . more likely they'll send them to us for free—armed.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 19:01:17 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 14:29:47 2012.

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You don't think 300 Nukes is an enough of deterrent? Especially since we can launch them from pretty much anywhere on the planet and strike hard? OH LOL the US only has 300 nukes they're weak LOL. 300 nukes is enough to kill a lot of this planets population.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 19:16:27 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 15 14:50:06 2012.

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No its because we have Subs off most of their coasts that could launch a Trident missile and wipe out a major city or two. I don't know if you really know we have A LOT of nuclear weapons, and its not like a conventional bomb, they're pretty destructive. You only need 1 to really get the point across. Especially since the ability to strike anywhere in the world basically rests with only the US and Russia. We have 300 nukes thats more than North Korea, France, Pakistan, India have combined. Only China and Russia have the DF-31 and 31A ICBMs which have a range of 7,500 miles. the US however has the Trident Missiles and the B83 nuclear bombs that can be launched from Jet Fighters. Also the US has perfected MIRVs so we can strike multiple targets with nukes easily while Chinas nukes we could theoretically intercept over the Pacific. T

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 15 19:34:35 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 16:55:13 2012.

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Differnt era and siffernt circumstance.....you still living in the 80s? Lots changed since then

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 15 19:35:57 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 19:01:17 2012.

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Similarly....reducing them has no effect either.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 15 19:36:33 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:49:04 2012.

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Because we have too many, in terms of maintenance and even if we reduced by the amounts proposed, we'll still have too many. How many of those things do you think we need? It's not like a howitzer shell.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 15 19:39:10 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 15 19:35:57 2012.

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Other than maintenance costs, yeah.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 19:40:57 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 15 19:34:35 2012.

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Somehow I suspect it ain't me that's stuck in the 80's ... 19-80's, right? Just need to be sure. :)

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 19:41:55 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 15 19:39:10 2012.

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Not to mention that old nukes go bad over time and have to be completely rebuilt every x number of years with fresh soda pop.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 19:42:31 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 15 19:36:33 2012.

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And even those have code dates ... "best used before ..."

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 15 19:48:09 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 19:42:31 2012.

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Wait until they find out we really don't need to build aircraft carriers.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 20:28:25 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 15 19:35:57 2012.

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Maintaining a nuclear stockpile is extremely expensive.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:32:30 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 14:49:04 2012.

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You're comparing Iran and the Juche entity to the USSR? LOL! Even with a reduced stockpile, we can destroy Korea (both of them) several hundred times.

We aren't at war with Russia or China anymore. Even so, we would still have enough to destroy all of their main cities and useful military targets. I guess we won't have enough to destroy the world and bring on the second cumming. Too bad.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:32:37 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 20:28:25 2012.

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So you want to put those people out of work? So we can give money to foreign countries who hate us?

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 20:33:22 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 15 19:48:09 2012.

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Moar minisubs! (with lettuce and mayo please) ... :)

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:33:23 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 15 19:34:35 2012.

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80s: Still at war with Russia
10s: Not at war with Russia

When do you think we needed more bombs?

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:34:03 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 15 19:35:57 2012.

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It saves a shitload of money.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:36:29 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:34:03 2012.

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I'd rather cut the aid to Egyptian sewer systems. And other nonsense. At least the maintenance jobs on nukes won't be outsourced.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:36:48 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 19:41:55 2012.

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There's also the matter that nuclear weapons have to be guarded lest they fall into the wrong hands. Those missile silos can't be completely automated since you have people there with shoot to kill orders or to push the self-destruct button if the shit goes down.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:37:26 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:36:29 2012.

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Which would save a lot less money. Do you know how to count?

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:38:27 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:32:37 2012.

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Hooray for the broken window fallacy!

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:39:13 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:37:26 2012.

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I'd rather waste money on maintaining nukes before giving money away to other countries and getting nothing in return.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:41:56 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:39:13 2012.

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We don't get nothing in return. We get good will. Then maybe we won't have to bomb them later, saving even more money.

Barring that, the two things are entirely unrelated. You can cut both. You can cut one or the other and you can cut neither. There is no correlation whatsoever.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:46:34 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:41:56 2012.

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We get good will.

I agree.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 21:01:37 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:41:56 2012.

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We don't get nothing in return. We get good will

We get nothing in return.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 21:02:20 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:46:34 2012.

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What do you mean you agree? We don't even get good will.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 21:06:28 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:33:23 2012.

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Correct. But they had them so so we needed to. In order to cut theirs, we cut ours. Different era. If we "need" them so much now (based on your post), why are we getting rid of them?

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 21:06:59 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 19:40:57 2012.

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No, the 18-80's....rolls eyes.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 15 21:07:15 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 21:02:20 2012.

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We get good will. You simply aren't familiar with that concept.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:09:09 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 21:02:20 2012.

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I know we don't.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 21:09:13 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 20:28:25 2012.

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Cool, we'll put the workers there out of work, and send all the money we save to rebuild the Mosques and sewers in Egypt.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 21:10:05 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:41:56 2012.

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We get no good will, they hate us regardless.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 21:17:11 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 21:09:13 2012.

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No you wont! Because the workers maintaining are now taking apart the nukes and the process doesn't take a day, i'd tell you that. People with the speciality in taking apart and maintaining nukes don't have a difficult time finding a job as well.

Im still shocked that this response came from you! You're not Luch!

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:22:09 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 21:17:11 2012.

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How's contract talks going?

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 21:26:27 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:22:09 2012.

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Who knows, its closed door meetings, all I know is what you've probably heard from the grapevine. Im just gearing up for the elections later on this year I'll be running for a union position.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 21:26:47 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 20:36:48 2012.

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Yep ... and even there, the ones starting to rust out and leaking groundwater are being turned into kondos for kooks. :)

"War Games." LOL

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:29:43 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 21:26:27 2012.

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So you don't mind the prospect of getting 0's while we give away billions to countries who hate us?

Do you really think that raising taxes on the rich will result in you getting a bigger paycheck? It won't. They'll always be rich and we'll always be middle class.

I hope you win.

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 15 21:36:06 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 15 21:06:59 2012.

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Ah ... my bad ... didn't realize that you actually BECAME a republican. It's all good, brah. :)

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Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 15 21:37:20 2012, in response to Re: Barack Hussein Obama considers cutting nuclear stockpile, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:29:43 2012.

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Id rather have the 0s for 3 years and benefits maintained. Than get a raise and pay more in benefits because that would be a pay cut.

And this contract has nothing to do with where federal money goes to Egypt. This is a NY State and NYC issue.

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