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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:49:07 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 19:44:54 2012. In New York State, for a marriage to be legal, there must be a marriage license. In what way is that "wrong"? |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:50:09 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:49:07 2012. when will you admit you're wrong |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 19:51:00 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 19:46:52 2012. All the more reason then that Reagan and Bush I should have taken his ass out long before Clinton. But that doesn't fit your agenda now, does it? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:52:36 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:50:09 2012. When you provide a credible link to support your assertion. I didn't see one anywhere in that Ann Coulter thread. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 19:54:52 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:49:07 2012. It's not wrong, but it's also not what you said. |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:55:08 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:52:36 2012. i'll have one shortly but you never provided a link to support your assertion. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:56:26 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 19:54:52 2012. I cited NYS law, with a link. I also said that the state MUST sanction a marriage, or else it's not a marriage. |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:56:29 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:52:36 2012. |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:56:39 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:52:36 2012. |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:56:57 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:52:36 2012. here's what the policy was under bush, no mention of stem cell research being banned |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:58:08 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:56:57 2012. Fair enough. I stand corrected on this. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:59:37 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:43:53 2012. I think we all know why :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:02:18 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:56:26 2012. That's where you were proven wrong beyond a doubt. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 20:02:32 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:59:37 2012. Ummm, I did reply, Thread Reefing Turtle. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:03:20 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 19:44:54 2012. Yep, exactly. JayZeeBMT disappears right after he's proven wrong. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 20:03:38 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:02:18 2012. REALLY? How can a marriage be legal in New York without a marriage license? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:04:26 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 20:02:32 2012. No, you did not reply to that post or in that thread that he linked to. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:05:34 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 20:03:38 2012. Who said anything about being legal? You only said "the state MUST sanction a marriage, or else it's not a marriage." |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 20:05:52 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:56:26 2012. IIRC you said something about a church not being able to perform a marriage unless there was a marriage license and even said that if they did they could be charged with performing an illegal marriage. I remember that SMAZ commented that a church no more needed a marriage license to perform a marriage than they needed a communion license to perform first communion. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:06:54 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 20:05:52 2012. Yep. It would be a lot easier if, instead of rehashing everything from memory and retyping all the same points, JayZeeBMT simply responded to the ACTUAL THREAD! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 20:08:46 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:06:54 2012. Huh? I responded to the post with the link. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 20:15:07 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:58:08 2012. Congratulations! :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:15:30 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 20:08:46 2012. ACTUAL THREAD!You know, the one where we were discussing this stuff last week before you disappeared. That goes for each and every thread where this has occurred. I can't believe I need to explain this. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:50:43 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:49:07 2012. That's not what you said, it was QUITE clear that I said it wouldn't be legal in the eyes of the state. You went then off on some thing about it's absolutely illegal. You were wrong. And now you changed what you said. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:51:22 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:58:08 2012. See not so bad, and you would be a lot more respected. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:54:11 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 20:05:52 2012. That's exactly what happened. Now he's trying to throw in the "for it to be legal" stuff, and in posts I made, I made it QUITE clear that it would not be legal in the eyes of the state, but there's nothing stopping a church from performing a marriage without the couple having a license from the state. He disappeared when I mentioned that gay couples have already been doing that for years long before gay marriage became a big topic, and it would have been no different for a regular couple too. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:54:35 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:50:43 2012. +1 |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:54:42 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 20:08:46 2012. No you didn't. You disappeared from the thread after a few people showed you were wrong. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:56:44 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 19:51:00 2012. Perhaps, but the thread was much larger as the 90's progressed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:57:16 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:56:44 2012. And I have said here quite often that I liked Clinton, voted for Clinton. No "agenda". |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 21:18:08 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:27:39 2012. Binladen was a problem going back to the 80s, when he got thrown out of Saudi. Reagan should have taken him on back then,instead of taking him in. Never hear any RWers discussing, much less owning up to that fail. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jan 22 21:39:58 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 20:05:34 2012. The way I read that is "No license from the state, it's not recognized" which means the couple can't get things like joint tax returns and common ownership of a house. As far as the state is concerned there's no marriage. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 21:45:58 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 19:35:27 2012. But the problem is: if you’re a Republican voter, which one do you vote for? None of them has a clue about how to get the US out of the mess it’s in! |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 22 21:50:00 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 17:26:34 2012. That doesn't excuse Bush being asleep at the switch. Duh.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 21:59:34 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:58:08 2012. No, you were right, at least in effect. If the administration directs that no grants are to be given through the NIH or the NSF for stem cell research, it amounts to a de-facto ban.The rest is nit-picking. Don’t apologize. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 22:11:28 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 21:59:34 2012. OIC. Do Dand and Terrapin owe ME an apology then? |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 22:14:38 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 21:59:34 2012. Using your twisted logic since the government won’t buy me a Lexus then Lexuses are banned. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 22 22:17:27 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:09:12 2012. Nothing gives Bush a pass on his gross negligence. You can go back to Reagan who helped create the monster but that doesn't absolve Bush's negligence while President.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 22:18:52 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 21:59:34 2012. Additionally he claimed that all stem-cell research was banned; the funding restrictions only applied to some lines of embryonic stem-cells, there were never any restrictions on adult stem cells. |
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Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 22:19:38 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 22:11:28 2012. No his definition of criminalized is absurd. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 22:28:18 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 20:56:44 2012. It was big enough when the thread was originally wound. But my point here is that somehow Clinton is the only one seemingly holding this bag and it was Obama that finally got him. Doesn't exactly fit the GOP narrative. Funny how Presidents are responsible for Bin Hidin' and in the end, now it's our seals when it wasn't a republican President that caught the glory. Subthreads like this amuse me. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 22:29:33 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jan 22 21:39:58 2012. Try taking a legally unrecognized marriage into court over a divorce and see what happens. :-\ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 22:31:22 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 22 22:17:27 2012. Which one? That's 12 years right there. :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 22:43:57 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jan 22 21:39:58 2012. You are of course wrong, Dan Lawrence. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 22:45:00 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 22:18:52 2012. pwn3d |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 22:46:19 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 21:59:34 2012. John,You were way cooler when you weren't wrong all the time. You are completely out of your element and you are not in the right frame of reference. What JayZeeBMT claimed in the original thread was completely wrong. He did need to apologize because he was completely wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 22:46:37 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 22:11:28 2012. No, since JohnL is wrong. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 22:51:37 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 22:46:37 2012. Read what I wrote again, and tell me how I’m wrong. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 22:53:03 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 22:14:38 2012. For you they are. Please come back and join the argument again when you have a clue about how research is funded in American universities. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sun Jan 22 22:54:02 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 22:18:52 2012. Um. Please go and buy some clues and come back to us later. |
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