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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 16:48:45 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 22 16:43:55 2012.

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It didn't take 8 months for the 911 attacks to take place. It took years.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 16:51:36 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 22 16:43:55 2012.

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...after ignoring the attempts by President Clinton's people to inform the transition team about Binladen/Alqueda AND to top it off, ignoring the Aug 8 memo in order to cut brush. That ranch of bush's may have been cleared, but as a result lower Manhattan was too.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 22 16:51:58 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 14:02:22 2012.

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Never say "never". You can only say something like that when the very threat is eliminated. And the Twelvers in Iran are planning worse than that anyhow.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 22 16:53:33 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 16:48:45 2012.

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The guy thinks nothing of desecrating the memories of the men who fought against this threat, while claiming to number himself among them.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 22 17:01:58 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 16:48:45 2012.

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It took 8 months of the Bush Admin to be asleep at the switch. They were so focused on missile defense they didn't mind the store with regard to terrorism. They were warned; they dropped the ball. We don't have 2 skyscrapers and over 3,000 people died.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 17:15:17 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 14:38:17 2012.

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The point is that war was being planned, right under Clinton's nose. We didn't end up with a Nazi future in the U.S. either, but at the cost of many U.S. lies.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 17:23:21 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 16:51:36 2012.

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Clinton knew the threat too. He didn't solve the problem either since the 1993 bombing.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 17:24:07 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 15:20:40 2012.

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And the Democrats are proud to have the racist Al Sharpton.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 17:26:34 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 22 17:01:58 2012.

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Clinton minded the store. The Saudis handed Osama to Clinton on a silver platter and Clinton let him go to Afghanistan instead.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 17:29:06 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 16:47:33 2012.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 17:30:06 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 17:29:06 2012.

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It would better fit the thread if it were captioned "a world without Islam."

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 17:31:19 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 17:26:34 2012.

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This is false. You even picked the wrong country.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 17:31:52 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 17:29:06 2012.

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Religion can be a problem, but it is not the problem. Murderous ideology does not need a belief in any diety.


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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 17:34:43 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 17:23:21 2012.

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Clinton WORKED on it. He knew the scope of the problem and his people tried to warn the transition team. The bushpeople didn't want to hear about it, they wanted missile defense and attacking China (seriously).

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 17:47:18 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 17:26:34 2012.

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Binladen was thrown out of Saudi and went the Afghanistan long before President Clinton came along.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 17:53:12 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 17:34:43 2012.

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Clinton had 7 YEARS to address the problem.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 22 17:55:08 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 17:23:21 2012.

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He gutted the CIA nicely though.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 17:58:31 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 17:47:18 2012.

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No, that's not true either.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:00:20 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 17:53:12 2012.

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He did more in that time WRT terrorism than bush did. You forget the 2 millennium plots that Clinton's people stopped. Those involved never "got on the plane".

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:02:55 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 17:58:31 2012.

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Binladen was in Somalia and then Afghanistan during the Reagan administration....using his wealth to fund the mujahadeen against the Soviets.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:09:12 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:00:20 2012.

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That's great, but that doesn't answer the question in which Clinton had 7 YEARS to deal with the aftermath of the 1993 bombings, and Osama. It was no secret he was a problem.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:09:47 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:02:55 2012.

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Clinton was president AFTER Reagan and Bush I.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:17:52 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:09:12 2012.

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Oh...you mean the first WTC bombing with the blind cleric that's rotting in prison along with his compatriots? The one where they caught all involved, tired and threw them all in prison for life?

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:21:34 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:09:47 2012.

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Duh.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 18:24:07 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 17:58:31 2012.

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It is ... Mujhadeen ... google it.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:27:39 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:17:52 2012.

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Again, Osama was known to be a problem since at least that time.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:28:04 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:21:34 2012.

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For 8 years no less.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 18:51:19 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 18:02:55 2012.

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Bin Laden was not ever in Somalia.

There's no reason not to know any of this.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 18:51:42 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:28:04 2012.

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See that guy there seated with Bin Laden's kids? Hint: That's not Clinton.



Unfortunately, conservative media has whitewashed history once again, but if you put in "reagan bin laden" into google, there's plenty of evidence from snopes to thinkprogress to slate and others about Reagan and his Taliban that you won't bother reading anyway.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:58:20 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 18:51:42 2012.

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And what don't you understand about that was 30 years ago? Bush was president after that and Clinton was president after that.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 19:00:14 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 18:58:20 2012.

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So why aren't we talking about Bush I not taking him out then? Oh right. He ain't Clinton either. :)

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 19:01:23 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 19:00:14 2012.

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He didn't either. He had 4 years, and Clinton had 8. It became clearer and clearer what Osama was as time went on.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 19:03:54 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 19:01:23 2012.

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It was pretty clear when Reagan was in too. Oliver North knew what he was playing with. Hey ... Bush II could have done something about him since he ALSO had 8 years. But as usual, leave it to the black guy to have to clean up the mess. :)

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:04:21 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 16:47:33 2012.

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Stop deflecting. We are not now living in an "Islamist future", are we?

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:07:00 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:04:21 2012.

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Deflecting? You've stopped posting in countless threads because you were shown to be completely wrong. You refuse to admit in those cases that you were wrong.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:08:32 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:07:00 2012.

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Adults are talking here. Please be quiet.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:14:00 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:08:32 2012.

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There YOU go deflecting. You realize that says all we need to know about your character and probably also your journalistic/professional integrity, right?

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 19:15:33 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:07:00 2012.

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Excellent post. Of course, he's doing it again.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:16:10 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:14:00 2012.

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Stop goading, Mr. I-reef-threads-I-don't-like.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:20:18 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:16:10 2012.

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when will you admit you were wrong here?

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:24:32 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:20:18 2012.

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Excellent. I hope he is able to admit he was wrong.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:24:57 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:16:10 2012.

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The fact that you can't address the issue is quite telling.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:31:12 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:24:32 2012.

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When are you going to admit that reefing threads where you look stupid is wrong?

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 19:32:00 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 18:51:19 2012.

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Ok, it was Sudan. Not all that different.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 19:35:27 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 17:15:17 2012.

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We haven't had th enazi future her ein America....yet. But yesterday's primary results are seriously disquieting WRT fascism.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:41:49 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:24:32 2012.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:41:55 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 19:24:57 2012.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by DAnd124 on Sun Jan 22 19:43:53 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:31:12 2012.

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how come you didn't reply to my post?

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 19:44:54 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 19:08:32 2012.

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But it's true. Just this week there's been at LEAST 3 threads (and that's being conservative) where you were proven completely wrong, and as soon as that happened disappeared from the thread, or at least the posts where you were proven wrong. The church weddings without a state license for just one.

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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 19:46:52 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 22 19:03:54 2012.

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He went into hiding in Pakistan at some point after the Afghan war. He wasn't in hiding prior to 911.

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