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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:41:41 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 12:39:02 2012.

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And I have not even said anything inflammatory. Voting blocs go back to before we were born. Just like it would have been accurate to say "JFK will win because all the Catholics, especially Irish, will be out in full force", it's accurate to say that Obama, 50 years later, has his blocs too.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 12:46:34 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:41:41 2012.

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You forgot THIW.....

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 6 12:46:56 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:02:27 2012.

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Waiting for son of gutmaker to respond.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:47:11 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 20:46:45 2012.

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You know, whether or not he said black people, the message is still important...we need to get people back on track on earning their money instead of relying on the gov't to provide for them, and one of the best ways to do so is to bring back manufacturing to this country and making sure that Americans are employed by such companies.

It's a shame this message was lost...

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 12:49:21 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:47:11 2012.

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we need to get people back on track on earning their money instead of relying on the gov't to provide for them

I mentioned Something like that in one of these threads must have gotten lost in the Gobble-Dee-Gook...

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 6 12:49:56 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:47:11 2012.

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It's a shame that the extremist liberals are making so much noise, so as to obscure the real message.....

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 12:52:37 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 12:39:02 2012.

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I got to em..plenty of times.
That ONE of the reasons he avoids me..the OTHER is I got him pegged on his bullshit,so he cant refute it.

Inflammatory?
Yes...
Confrontational..?
YES..
Can he defend his position?
Never..

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:55:33 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:47:11 2012.

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Yup. I think it's horrible that in black communities, most of the food businesses are owned by foreigners who provide blacks with the worst food imaginable.

But what is the answer? If you follow Bev Smith, a black female activist, basically a female Al Sharpton, she points out that in her neighborhood, a black family opened a supermarket and they had to hire a full-time armed guard because of all the problems black kids caused the owner. The owner complains about it all the time to her. Bev had to agree that it's hard to get business to open around black people. I wish Bev was still on the radio. THIW.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 12:55:56 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 12:52:37 2012.

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Ah so YOU Have rattled His Cage!

Mr unflappable has met his match...

Gonna Bust his chops over this one...

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:56:08 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 12:46:34 2012.

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You forgot THIW.....

I'm all worked up.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 13:03:59 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:55:33 2012.

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" I think it's horrible that in black communities, most of the food businesses are owned by foreigners who provide blacks with the worst food imaginable."

Really? do you think it's horrible that White supermarket owners don't run at the chance to open up supermarkets in Black communities to provide healthy foods?

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 13:04:31 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:47:11 2012.

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You don't get it.

The "message" was NEVER lost.

The PROBLEM here is HOW he CHOOSE TO PORTRAY it.

No amount of SPIN by you or anyone else is gonna clean that up.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 13:06:44 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 6 12:49:56 2012.

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The MESSAGE was NEVER lost..

The PROBLEM here is HOW he choose to DELIVER it.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 13:07:12 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 13:04:31 2012.

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"No amount of SPIN by you or anyone else is gonna clean that up."

IAWTP....

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 13:08:12 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:56:08 2012.

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Too much caffeine then.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 13:09:01 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 6 11:58:56 2012.

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Not really.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 13:10:30 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 13:09:01 2012.

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Pay the Child No mind Streetcarman...

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 13:12:40 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:55:33 2012.

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Hmmm..armed guards..

We dont have those around These parts,sunshine boy.

But where I did find them..and you gotta find this funny to SOME extent..is the METRO mall..Queens Center Mall..and Vally Stream!

I also did find them at a few WALMARTS..in Long Island.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 13:13:07 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 13:03:59 2012.

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I think that's horrible too! At least in Philadelphia, Brown's Family Shoprite is placing supermarket in the "food deserts" that exist in predominantly black communities, and those supermarkets are doing quite well from what I see!

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 13:40:17 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:55:33 2012.

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Step 1: STOP VOTING WITH THE DEMOCRATS 95% OF THE TIME.

You can't expect anyone to address your community's issues when one party takes you for granted and the other ignores you because you never, ever demonstrate a willingness to listen.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 14:07:38 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 13:40:17 2012.

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You couldn't be more correct with this post!

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 14:12:22 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:56:08 2012.

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Don't let this place work you up. That's what happens to the libs, and they have to respond to any dissent with a pile of argumentum ad hominem, which means that the dissenters win the argument without even responding.

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 14:13:00 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:41:41 2012.

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Voting blocs go back to before we were born. Just like it would have been accurate to say "JFK will win because all the Catholics, especially Irish, will be out in full force"

That's not why JFK won either.

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 14:20:31 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 14:12:22 2012.

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LOL!
HIM..get "worked up"?
If You believe That..then you'd believe the sun is missing.

I LIKE LUCH..I really do.
Hes got a certain style I have to admire.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 6 14:32:11 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:55:33 2012.

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That's interesting, but it's not the case in my section of Queens. Here there are quite a few businesses owned by local black and Latino people, including a seafood kitchen that recently opened up on Linden Blvd., the dry cleaners, the funeral home, the West Indian restaurant, several accountants and lawyers, and, of course, the local PathMark, where one of the owners is black. None of these establishments have problems with their customers of any age, because everybody understands their stake in helping these businesses stay open. THIW.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 6 14:33:50 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:55:33 2012.

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Agreed, and it's also a shame how many white-owned business profile black customers.

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 14:51:06 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 14:13:00 2012.

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JFK did not get 95% of the Catholic vote. He was IRISH Catholic, and even in 1960, Italians hated them.

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 14:54:29 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 14:51:06 2012.

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Of course. It has to be a sizable majority that tips the scales towards a certain candidate. Some might even say that JFK won due to wearing makeup on the televised debates (the radio listeners judged that Nixon won).

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 14:58:48 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 14:54:29 2012.

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No "block vote" has ever been as consistent as the black vote, for Democrats, since the 30's. They've tied their fates with that of socialism and progressive politics.

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 14:59:37 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 14:58:48 2012.

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Perhaps, but consistency doesn't guarantee their will be done; they need a majority to go along with them.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 15:17:30 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 6 14:33:50 2012.

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Indeed!

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 15:50:38 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 14:07:38 2012.

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He wrong about that on so many levels..it happens when you don't broaden your horizons.

I myself,have MORE than "listened" to what Republican candidates have to say...likewise with the DEMOCRATS..

See..what he doesnt get..is the Black voter is more shrewd than they are given credit for..
We vote ON the ISSUES..not for PERSON or the PARTY.

What he is NOT saying..is how republicans have NEVER taken black voters seriously enough in ANY CASE..regardless if "we listened or not",until recently..and History shows their contempt/reinforced stereotype FOR us.
Do you honestly blame any person of color for firmly believing that the REPUBLICAN PARTY is the worst of two evils,when they have yet to do or say ANYTHING different over the years?

Hell...do you read the twitter post on how they feel about the President,his wife..their CHILDREN?

His antics here are only to show how desperate they have become..how much more disrespectful and INSULTING their tactics have become...by actually calling into question the intelligence BEHIND voting choices,but for life long card carrying Conservative/Republican party members..the SAME standards don't apply.
You see whee I going with this.

When it boils down to it..its pure bullshit,plain and simple..

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 6 16:47:23 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 07:53:52 2012.

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There are some downconversions that do have an audio bump several seconds before the operative sentence. Listened to a couple last night while waiting for my publisher to put up my story.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 6 16:55:12 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:07:23 2012.

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He wasn't Romney, and he wasn't Gingrich. Folks were reminded of what Gingrich was like by a bombardment of very mean-spirited ads from Romney and they flipped off both of them. Since everyone else was nucking futz, the "unknown comedian" won. And for those who missed the news, Romney somehow got 20 of Santorum's votes and Santorum actually won.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 17:54:09 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 15:50:38 2012.

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IAWTP

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jan 6 18:23:39 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 08:41:49 2012.

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Dude, selkirk saw it too. Even jz admids to seeing it when hee finally looked again.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 6 18:24:47 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jan 6 18:23:39 2012.

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It was only a handful of copies on Youtube that had that problem. Most copies I sat through last night had no audio compression flaw. But the part where he said it couldn't have been clearer.

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Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 6 18:47:02 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 6 12:12:44 2012.

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Yes, with a Republican Congress.

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 19:16:29 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 14:51:06 2012.

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What country was that?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black

Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jan 7 16:28:24 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 14:12:22 2012.

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Please stop using Latin in your posts, and thanks again for everything.

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