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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 00:34:52 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 8 00:23:59 2011. Let's see how tomorrow evening works out then. It'll be dark out and fairly clear skies as the asteroid passes by with the sun hitting it. It'll zizz by much faster than the space station and folks will likely shit themselves when they see it zizz by. Then, the following day a "national alert test" which will interrupt EVERYTHING with a nice big FEMA logo on it on every TV and cable channel along with conservatard radio being taken off the air for 30 seconds so they can hear "the leaders of the world" say "this is only a test" ... heh.NWO all up in here ... someone check up on Olog. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 00:57:02 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 8 00:23:59 2011. I hope you can dog paddle, scum-bucket. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 01:13:23 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 00:21:41 2011. The issue has nothing to do with Boeing wanting to open a plant outside of the US. They want to one one in South Carolina to build the new 787 and the NLRB is blocking it. That's costing over 2,000 jobs in this country. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 01:48:30 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 01:13:23 2011. Are you aware of what South Carolina was actually about? Are you aware that the REASON why the NLRB (which is a damned timid agency) went after Boeing over that? Because they had the audacity to put IN WRITING that it was deliberately done in RETALIATION for "union activity" in Seattle. NOT because there was any other "business reason" aside from retaliation. AND they not only put it in writing, but told the media that this was the reason for doing so. That's *ILLEGAL!*FUCK Boeing ... (Proff ...) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/business/21boeing.html NLRB is under judicial orders to NOT release the paperwork, but here's their site on it: https://www.nlrb.gov/node/516 ... and there's plenty of UNOFFICIAL reports on it from WSJ, FOX News and other sources you might consider "credible" on google ... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 8 01:54:33 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Nov 7 22:57:47 2011. Bottom line..she frontin..part of a insider stunt to knock Cain off the ballot/running's by slandering him reducing his popularity with conservatives sorts.I hate to say it..but then again..I really dont..Chris once said that libs RACIST.. Well..with this latest showing..I believe its just the opposite...and I for one LOVE IT. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 06:54:15 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 01:13:23 2011. The bill would open the door to more outsourcing, unintended consequences as they may be.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 06:54:47 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:06:56 2011. Cain was wrong to at first say "He didn't remember", but just because there were settlements do not mean anything happened. It just means both sides agreed to "make it go away".As for the third, as a journalist, you should know better than to just take someone's word as fact. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 06:55:17 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 22:30:21 2011. Exactly. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 06:58:19 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 8 00:23:59 2011. I'm waiting for a real rain to come and wash all this scum off the streetsYes, perhaps Zuccotti Park will finally get such a rain. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 07:12:42 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 01:48:30 2011. I hope Boeing wins. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 07:45:49 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 01:48:30 2011. Yeah, I know exactly what it's about. FUCK the NLRB. They are still over-stepping. Now, of course since they can't produce the 787 in Seattle fast enough and because Boeing is behind schedule, I'm certain that the people of your mindset will be perfectly happy to see those 2,000 jobs go off shore either by Boeing or to Air Bus who is waiting to pick up the slack. Once again, it's that punish the big, bad corporation for being successful. Keep in mind that not one person in Seattle was going to lose their job over this.Perhaps next time it will be a high tech company from Silicon Valley seeking to expand in Albany. Maybe then when the NLRB stops that move, you'll get it. Again, regardless of the issues, the NLRB has no right to tell a corporation where it can operate. If you say otherwise, show it it me in writing. It doesn't exist. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 07:49:45 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 06:54:15 2011. So block 2,000 jobs now for a "possible" reaction where there is no evidence of one? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 08:14:17 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 8 00:14:51 2011. She's white.Dirtyboy, So what? Are you implying that blacks will now line up in support behind Cain? I saw the woman on television a few minutes ago. She has terrible skin, is not camera shy in the slightest. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Nov 8 08:21:00 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 00:10:13 2011. It's a deal!! Wednesday at 1:59 EST I will have my TV on. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 8 08:34:01 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 22:29:36 2011. Where in my OP did I take this woman's "claims as fact"? I repeatedly characterized the accusations as "alleged sexual assault" and expressed an opinion about the woman's allegations. I am allowed to have an opinion, right...oh, wait, I forgot, I'm a "librul", so my "opinions" don't count, right? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 08:39:34 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 8 08:34:01 2011. LOL |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 09:28:23 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 8 08:34:01 2011. Kinda hard to argue that these women knew Cain was gonna run for President 14 years ago, fabricated these claims, and accepted settlements then, in hopes of ruining him a decade and a half later, no?oh, wait, I forgot, I'm a "librul", so my "opinions" don't count, right? YOU said that, not me. But of course, now that you said it, you will pass it off like I said that. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 10:42:02 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 22:04:56 2011. To laugh at all (except perhaps, at this point at Cain supporters) proves my point.You're a chauvinistic pig. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 10:51:27 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:05:04 2011. The house has passed two dozen tax breaks for "job creators", a term that's actually a dog whistle for the rich. If they were true job creators out there, they'd be creating jobs. They are NOT.Tax cuts and federal blessings on union busting are NOT going to create jobs, they are all about creating profits. The economy isn't going to improve if the only work available is at poverty-serf level. That's what the republicans want, but it won't improve anything for anyone but themselves. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 10:54:32 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 07:49:45 2011. Insert an anti-outsourcing clause.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 10:59:41 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 01:13:23 2011. South Carolina does not allow unions. By not having unions, they can pay low wages and provide no benefits. Their workforce, however is substandard, as their public school system is a shambles. That's why BMW is leaving. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:01:31 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 10:59:41 2011. SC "does not allow"? I thought it was simply a right to work state.Look at NYC schools and the wealth NYC has. I don't think it's right to bash SC or any other state when NYC and NY State clearly have their own issues. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:06:03 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 07:49:45 2011. Yes. Boeing should do the right thing. They're already plenty profitable. I wouldn't want to fly on one of those planes if they make them in SC (Luch?). The workforce there is undereducated, as the SC schools are horrible. Building planes requires a high level of training, and that requires literacy. BMW is leaving SC. Why? They were willing to put up with the expense of providing a REAL high school education for employees before training while they had tax incentives. Now that the incentive's expired, it's simply too damn expensive to educate and then train a workforce that doesn't produce well despite all their effort. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:17:11 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 10:54:32 2011. Call your congressman |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:19:28 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:01:31 2011. Please - never let facts stand in the way of a good rhetoric-filled rant. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:19:43 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:06:03 2011. Problem is, Boeing has tons of flaws on the planes currently made in liberal states so you can't blame SC.Boeing 737's have a convertible roof and they're not supposed to have. Repairing planes also requires a high level of training and most airlines now outsource such work. Planes are flown to Ecuador and el Salvador for maintenance. THIW. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:21:57 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:01:31 2011. The banned unions, sometime in the early 80s.I know a good deal about SC, my parents lived there for over 20 years. The public schools were abysmal, chronically underfunded. That goes back to desegregation, when most white families sent their kids to private schools rather than desegregated public schools. As a result, they voted down public school budgets year after year, starving the system. When BMW built a factory in Greenville, they found they had to educate their employees before they could train them to build cars. The majority of them were functional illiterates, incapable of performing the tasks involved with high tech manufacturing. Now that BMW's tax incentives have expired, they're leaving. It costs too much to educate and then train without the tax break to offset the expense. Even then, the workforce wasn't as productive as they had expected, and certainly didn't live up to the expectations after all the investment they made. They're moving to the Detroit area. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:24:04 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:19:28 2011. Don't let reality interfere with your dogma, despite that fact that it won't bend to suit you. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 11:24:26 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 10:42:02 2011. LOL!!!! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:25:48 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:06:03 2011. Pleeeze. The Union Workers at Chrysler were video taped drinking during lunch breaks. Where are your tirades about quality and safety? Take your extremist liberal rants and march on Detroit. Assembly line work is repetitive. Apple pickers in Hornell were trained to overhaul and build subway cars. If Boeing wants to build planes in South Carolina and especially if it's not cutting jobs in Seattle, what is it the business of the NLRB or yours (unless you are a shareholder). It's a business decision. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:26:37 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:24:04 2011. You have no facts. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:27:35 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 22:30:21 2011. Funny how the RWNBs had nothing to say about Ms Allred when her client's name was Paula Jones. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:29:35 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:06:56 2011. The anonymous ones are working within the limits of their settlements. Sharon Bialek wasn't one of them. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:30:31 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:21:57 2011. "The public schools were abysmal,"Well, that explains that! By the way - do you have anything in the way of proof that BMW is leaving South Carolina? Or did you read that on a box of Krispy Kreams? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:30:46 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:21:57 2011. Most of the filth and garbage in NYC is functionally illiterate garbage on the fucking subway trains and in the malls talking shit like fucking animal illiterate garbage morons. The problem is nationwide not local to SC. Illiterate garbage scum is nationwide. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:30:57 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:26:37 2011. Yes I do. You refuse to believe them. Your problem, not mine. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:32:02 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:27:35 2011. Funny how all the left wing douche bags are so interested in sexual harassment now that the alleged harasser is a Republican. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:33:14 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:29:35 2011. Her miserable story played so much like a crock of shit, it sounded like you wrote it for her. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:38:12 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:29:35 2011. Sharon Bialek looks like she has let a lot of men play hide the salami inside of her. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:39:23 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:25:48 2011. Do you know whether I am a Boeing shareholder? Should that matter?Fact is, they're doing this solely for union busting. Period. There are still laws against that. Add to that the fact that they are attempting to open a factory in a place notorious for poor quality output, and it's glaringly clear where the motives lie. The apple pickers in Hornell had a better basic education than anyone that graduated the SC public school system. That's why it worked. Don't argue things you know nothing about. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 11:39:50 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:32:02 2011. Yup. And I don't even like Herman Cain. I am just LMAO over the libs and this. They once again are all over the board. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:41:33 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:38:12 2011. heh? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you one of those types that thinks a woman leads on her rapist? If so, there's a home for you in Karachi. You'll fit in just fine there. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:44:05 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:30:57 2011. I guess that you are not capable of focusing on the issue at hand so let me re-frame the issue for you.THE NLRB HAS NO BUSINESS TELLING ANY U.S. CORPORATION WHERE IT CAN OR CAN'T DO BUSINESS!!!! They have no more right to dictate acceptable locations to corporations than they do to tell you where to live !!! That's the argument. Get it? Eh? Now as for your idiocy, Where are your facts? Many technology/transportation corporations including WABTEK, are located in South Carolina. Show me that they are not capable of putting out a quality product. Show me that skilled workers will not relocate to South Carolina to take those skilled positions. Show me that the people in South Carolina are untrainable. Prove to me that Boeing will not be able to build a quality air craft in South Carolina. Where is your proof? |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 8 11:45:21 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:38:12 2011. Retract that statement. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 8 11:47:00 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 8 11:45:21 2011. More earthquakes forecast for Oklahoma. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:47:37 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:39:23 2011. Yeah, it should matter because this is a business decision and clearly out of the purview of the NLRB. As for arguing about things I allegedly know nothing about, you've invented a whole persona here doing exactly that. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 11:47:56 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 8 11:45:21 2011. +1Thats Limbaugh talking loud and clear. Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:50:58 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:38:12 2011. I won't comment on her looks but her whole story sounds like liberal dreck. The incident happened 14 years ago. She was silent until her boyfriend from that time reached out to her and urged her to come forward and tell her story. Yeah, if you believe that one, I have a bridge to sell in Las Vegas. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:52:12 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:47:37 2011. Know more about the real world than some pencil pushing bureaucrat that is now collecting a public-funded pension of his own while wishing to see everyone else lose theirs. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:56:54 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:52:12 2011. Ah the real you finally emerges. Why don't you have a few jelly doughnuts with a warm glass of Vinegar and Water and we'll talk later. |
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