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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 18:17:46 2011 A Chicago mother has come forward in a press conference to publicly reveal the details of GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain's alleged sexual abuse, the Daily News reports. The woman says Cain physically abised her in a car when she sought a job at the National Restaurant Association. Her bombshell revelations put paid to Cain's assertions that he "had no knowledge" of any settlements between his accusers and the NRA, or that he engaged in any "inappropriate" conduct with the women. Cain has repeatedly characterized the allegations as a "smear campaign" by the "liberal media" and "GOP rivals".Kinda hard to argue that these women knew Cain was gonna run for President 14 years ago, fabricated these claims, and accepted settlements then, in hopes of ruining him a decade and a half later, no? |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 19:59:15 2011, in response to Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 18:17:46 2011. It's not surprising. If he had been accused of shooting heroin there would be 10 people coming forward saying that they used to shoot up with Cain. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 20:47:19 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 19:59:15 2011. LOL, yeah exactly. Amazing how the left is so obsessed with this nonsense. There's plenty to criticize Cain on with the issues, without all this nonsense. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 20:55:35 2011, in response to Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 18:17:46 2011. He's done flying.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 7 21:15:52 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 20:47:19 2011. You think sexual assault is nonsense? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 7 21:17:12 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 20:55:35 2011. He's done period. Sexual assault? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 21:47:46 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 7 21:15:52 2011. LOL. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 7 21:52:26 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 21:47:46 2011. Neanderthal. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 22:04:56 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 7 21:52:26 2011. I am laughing at your typical response, not "sexual assault".Your tone at this point is laughable, and it's quite hard to take you seriously, even in serious topics at this point. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:06:56 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 19:59:15 2011. Except that these women were all given settlements a long time ago. They're going public now to refute Cain's claims that he either "didn't remember" or that the women's claims are "smears" by the "liberal media". |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:08:15 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 20:47:19 2011. Would you be calling these allegations "nonsense" if they had been directed against Obama during the 2008 campaign? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 22:13:20 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:08:15 2011. Yes. It's all political theater. There are real issues to discuss. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 22:13:20 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:08:15 2011. If they were directed against obama you would be calling them nonsense. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 22:21:31 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:08:15 2011. Bill Clinton was a sexual predator. He was accused of rape by Juanita Broadrick, accused of sexual assault by Katheen Willey, hada 12 year affair with Gennifer Flowers and messed up Monica Lewinsky's new blue dress. The left "overlooked" this minor character flaw while trying to crucify Clarence Thomas for a remark about a pubic hair on a soda can. Herman Cain is not fit to be president. That said anyone can charge anyone else with sexual harassment. As discussed here previously, most corporations find it cheaper and more expedient to make a cash settlement than go through a protracted, disruptive and costly investigation. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:24:54 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 22:21:31 2011. Oh, good God, if Clinton "raped" Juanita Broadrick, or Kathleen Willey, why on earth didn't he get prosecuted by the federal AAG? |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 22:26:52 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:06:56 2011. False. The woman in your post was not given a settlement nor afaik had she ever mentioned being harassed by Cain before now. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 22:27:40 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:24:54 2011. Yes, if it's a "Democrat" it's meaningless, and "all a mistake", when it's Republican, you take it face value, just as all leftists. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 22:29:36 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 22:26:52 2011. It's amazing, as he claims to be a journalist, and is so swayed, that he just takes this woman's claim as fact. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 22:30:21 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:24:54 2011. What about Paula Jones? It's a pretty long list. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Nov 7 22:30:25 2011, in response to Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 18:17:46 2011. Not sure that I believe her---she should have come forward within the calendar year of the accusations. Congress and all 50 states should pass laws instituting a limit of one year from the alleged action to file a sexual harassment claim.And Gloria Allred as the attorney? The red flag is up. And a decade-plus is an awfully long time to sit on an accusation. At least with the cases that were alleged prior, they were settled around the turn of the century, and they apparently have moved on (or so they thought). This stinks to high heaven. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Nov 7 22:32:28 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 22:30:21 2011. The only really credible one was Monica Lewinsky (who presented the semen-stained dress as evidence). But generally, all it takes is one credible accusation...and for Clinton, Lewinsky was that credible accusation. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 22:33:13 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 22:30:21 2011. Forgot about her too. That's only 5 and its probably just one big political plot. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Nov 7 22:35:32 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 19:59:15 2011. The real problem is that sexual harassment is easy to claim, but hard to prove. What exactly is "sexual harassment"?There are many ways to attack Herman Cain...without going down this route. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 7 22:42:36 2011, in response to Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 18:17:46 2011. Kinda hard to argue that these women knew Cain was gonna run for PresidentI feel the same way about Obama being a Muslim as a child. His stepdad didn't know he would run for President and registered Obama as a Muslim and Indonesian in grade school. As for Cain, who cares? I'll vote for him anyway, if he gets the nomination. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Nov 7 22:48:33 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 22:26:52 2011. And the women who were given settlements apparently had moved on from it, which is why this accuser seems very suspicious. That Gloria Allred is attached makes the stench even more putrid. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 7 22:50:44 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 22:13:20 2011. Could somebody buzz me when that happens? :) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Nov 7 22:50:52 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 7 22:29:36 2011. I'd have a lot of questions for her...including: What ere the details of this incident? Will you be willing to take a polygraph? (An accuser of Obama, Larry Sinclair, failed a polygraph.) Why did you wait so long to report this, and why should I believe that you didn't have time to coordinate a story? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Nov 7 22:57:47 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 7 21:15:52 2011. It's not nonsense---if it can be proven. But an incident that happened 15 years ago and was not alleged prior has a mighty stench of putrefaction to it, and is pretty hard to prove, as one has 15 years t tailor a story. IINM, the other 3 people who alleged inappropriate conduct against Herman Cain came forward in the 1990s while it happened (and while Cain was still employed by the National Restaurant Association), although the cases was settled shortly after Herman had left the NRA. But the conduct was alleged to have occurred then, and complaints were filed then. They were settled, but that was long ago; whether or not it was substantiated and was the cause of Herman Cain's departure from the NRA has not been seriously discussed, but it should be, as I wanted to know from the start.Back to this new case: this new accuser doesn't pass the smell test...or the laugh test. Her complaint really sounds as though she can't get any (runs for cover). |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Nov 7 22:58:56 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 7 22:50:44 2011. 
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 23:00:45 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Nov 7 22:58:56 2011. Most people have jobs though. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 23:02:24 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 23:00:45 2011. So what's the big deal about unemployment then?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:03:02 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Nov 7 22:58:56 2011. You forgot the two humorous moments when obama jokes that there were a few bumps in the road or when he quips that some of the shovel ready projects were not shovel ready. If you missed them, be patient. I'm certain that you'll be hearing them frequently during the campaign. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:05:04 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 23:02:24 2011. because some of the 9.1% who don't might actually want jobs. The house has passed nearly 2 dozen jobs bills that have died in Harry Reid's Senate. The President has once again shown no leadership in getting his own party to push those bills through. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 23:09:38 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:05:04 2011. What jobs bills?I see bills reducing various regulations but none with any push to create jobs. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 7 23:19:21 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 23:00:45 2011. Nope ... with the republicans, jobs are dead just like the other Jobs who founded Apple. But no problem, we'll vote for them because they said they'll create jobs once Obama fails. :-\ |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 23:23:47 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 23:02:24 2011. What's the big deal about cancer? Most people don't have cancer after all. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:29:19 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 23:09:38 2011. There are no less that 22 bills passed by the house with bi-partisan support that are now being held hostage by Harry Reid. Which ones have you reviewed? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:30:58 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 7 23:19:21 2011. I thought that you were waiting for a serious discussion. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 23:45:11 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:29:19 2011. These.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:54:02 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 23:45:11 2011. and you disagree with every one of them? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 7 23:55:16 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:30:58 2011. I'm waiting for the alien invasion too ... guess which'll happen first? :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 00:01:56 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 7 23:55:16 2011. If you are talking about the illegal aliens from south of the border, I guess you didn't get the wake-up call. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 00:03:09 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 7 23:54:02 2011. I don't see how they create jobs as most are simply industry's wish list of weakening regulations. I'd like to see something to induce the banks to lend more, just as one example.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 00:03:57 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 23:23:47 2011. I guess with the death of Joe Frazier, that question becomes moot. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 00:05:56 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 00:03:09 2011. Certainly you can see how the bill pertaining to the curbing of the NLRB's ability to control where businesses can operate, will create jobs, citing Boeing as one example. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 00:10:13 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 00:01:56 2011. Nope ... happened to catch some local conservatard radio earlier today. The first outer space event will pass overhead by you at precisely 6:28PM tomorrow night. On Wednesday, precisely at 1:59PM and for two minutes following, tune your radio or television to ANY channel and you'll hear the nationwide announcement. Mexicans? feh. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 00:12:33 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 7 23:23:47 2011. I dunno, not following your point, but no matter.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 8 00:14:51 2011, in response to Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 18:17:46 2011. She's white.He's finished. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 00:21:41 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 00:05:56 2011. On the surface that sounds sensible but a bill like that will encourage Boeing and others to set up shop overseas.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 8 00:23:59 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 7 23:55:16 2011. I'm waiting for the alien invasion too ... guess which'll happen first? :) I'm waiting for a real rain to come and wash all this scum off the streets signed Travis Bickle |
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