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Posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:35:19 2011 TeaLA Times |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 21:39:00 2011, in response to Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:35:19 2011. I'm enjoying all the talk a full year and change before the election. Think about it; at this point Obama is basically running against himself.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:42:17 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 21:39:00 2011. What's different about Obama's low popularity compared to other Presidents that came back and won is how close to the election we are. The economy is going to have to do a 180 fairly soon or people will have already made up their minds. He's going to be campaigning in a few months and what's he going to say? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 26 21:44:14 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:42:17 2011. Heh. Yep ... just six more weeks to the finish line. He's a goner! :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 21:45:43 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:42:17 2011. It's soon and it's not so soon. Anything can happen in the next several months, including the GOP primaries.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:49:07 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 21:45:43 2011. Unless the economy turns around the race will be the GOP's to lose. Not saying that they aren't capable of doing just that though. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 21:55:00 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:49:07 2011. They do tend to overreach. Like now. That's why I want Perry as GOP candidate.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:57:17 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 26 21:44:14 2011. We'll see. He almost needs either a big turnaround in the economy (which no one is predicting) or his opposition to run two candidates that split the vote. Even then he might still lose. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:57:54 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 21:55:00 2011. I think that Perry can beat Obama. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 22:01:31 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:57:54 2011. I thought it was possible until the last debate.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 26 22:26:56 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:57:17 2011. I'll wait until we're a little closer to the rapture. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 22:31:49 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 26 22:26:56 2011. lol |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 26 22:34:38 2011, in response to Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:35:19 2011. The president's got to realize that they are against the USA and against him. Time for him to shed his indoctrination. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 26 22:45:41 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:42:17 2011. He's going to be campaigning in a few months and what's he going to say?What is he going to say? The usual crap he always says, that it's everyone else's fault but his. It's the Republicans, it's Bush, it's the earthquake in Japan. He certainly can't campaign on how great he has been or his accomplishments. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 26 23:03:33 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 26 22:45:41 2011.  |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 26 23:20:44 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 26 22:34:38 2011. And THEN you'll vote for him?Win-win! :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 26 23:32:31 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 26 22:34:38 2011. Obama could be the Alf Landon of the democratic party. In 1936, Landon received the fewest electoral votes for a 2nd place candidate in US history. obama may eclipse that honor for the dim-ocrats |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:08:44 2011, in response to Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:35:19 2011. Obama's base will show up.You're right about the Tea Party. They seem to show up for any election, like NY-9, Brown vs. some woman in Mass, and of course the 2010 midterms. They will just make it more interesting, but in the end, I don't see how Obama can lose. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 27 00:09:20 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:08:44 2011. Obama's base will show upThey are . . . to protest him. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:14:39 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 22:01:31 2011. Fred, the only people who watched the last debate were people like you, looking for flaws in the GOP candidates. You didn't watch with an open mind. You watched knowing that you would come away bashing someone, most likely the person you least like.I guess it's no different than people who tuned in to Obama's jobs speech after Labor Day, who watched because they wanted to find flaws in the speech. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:16:41 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 27 00:09:20 2011. Yes, to protest. That's what the left does. But they will be out to protest the GOP by next year.You don't know how it works. Obama's base won't budge. No such thing as a person who voted for Obama in 08 that will vote GOP in 12. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:17:47 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:57:54 2011. Perry is the kind of candidate the GOP needs. Romney is soft and won't get the southerners out in FLA, NC, and VA. Those states will decide who wins in 12. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 27 00:18:23 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:16:41 2011. Obama's base won't budgeOh, they will. There's no immovable "Obama base" that suddenly appeared in 2008 and can't be shaken by reality. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 00:23:20 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:16:41 2011. obama's base is moving, away... Whether they will stay away depends on two factors.The economy The Republican choice Obama has no clue as to what to do about the economy. Hence, the Republicans need to choose a candidate that the former obamites can tolerate but not one that will anger them and at the same time, one that will energize and unite the Republicans. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:29:56 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 00:23:20 2011. Obama has no clue as to what to do about the economy.He blames Bush. And it seems to work. obama's base is moving, away They're the left. They protest. That's what they do. That's how they are. They live for this shit. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 00:32:59 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:29:56 2011.  |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 05:51:42 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:14:39 2011. I didn't watch any of the Republicans...better things to do, and it's way too early to think about them. Didn't watch Obama's speech either, as I was in football mode, and I know his speeches by now, they are all the same....leftist propaganda, and bashing the right, and taking no responsibility. Saying many things, but saying nothing. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 27 07:08:30 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:14:39 2011. Ehh, you're talking about looking for gaffes and I'm talking about a revealing moment into a candidate's skill set.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by vfrt on Tue Sep 27 10:17:09 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:16:41 2011. ===No such thing as a person who voted for Obama in 08 that will vote GOP in 12.===I disagree. The independents and moderates who flocked to Obama in 2008 will vote republican in 2012. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 10:27:35 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 00:16:41 2011. No such thing as a person who voted for Obama in 08 that will vote GOP in 12.That's completely false. Moderate Republicans, Many Independents, and even Moderate Democrats will NOT be voting for Obama in 2012 unless something fantastic happens that he has done occurs. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Sep 27 11:45:27 2011, in response to Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:35:19 2011. So the same people who voted for Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader in 2008 and have been protesting since 2009. Anyone who was paying attention in 2008 knows Obama was never anti-war or pro-amnesty. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 11:49:32 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Sep 27 11:45:27 2011. According to the latest Marist Poll, 53% of independent voters say they absolutely will not vote for obama. Just 28% say that they will. Without the independent vote - he cannot win. To paraphrase an old Tex Antoine saying; "When defeat is inevitable, relax and enjoy the slide!" |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Sep 27 11:54:10 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 05:51:42 2011. Want Obama to take responsibility for the Greece (Eurozone) debt crisis which is hurting the economy more than anything else? |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Sep 27 11:54:22 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 26 21:39:00 2011. Think about it; at this point Obama is basically running against himself.Not if there's an underground movement that brings up Hillary for 2012. You know the democrats aren't going to turn over power to the Republicans in 2012 if Obama is floundering. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Sep 27 11:55:08 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 11:49:32 2011. Good to know that 53% of independent voters are sure 1 year from Elections... Im sure before the economy fell apart 53% of them thought their 401Ks were strong too. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Sep 27 11:58:49 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Sep 27 11:54:10 2011. And don't forget the Arab Spring. He's had some bad luck, but we certainly appreciate his efforts. Now maybe it's time to try something else. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 11:59:49 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Sep 27 11:55:08 2011. "Good to know that 53% of independent voters are sure 1 year from Elections.."Much as your mind was made up more that 1 year before the election, N'était-ce pas? If you don't like the results of the poll - go argue with the Marist people. They may be interested. I'm just stating what the results were. I don't suppose you'd be visibly upset if they said 53% would definitely vote for obama, however. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:01:58 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 11:59:49 2011. I don't suppose you'd be visibly upset if they said 53% would definitely vote for obama, however.If it said that, he wouldn't have even responded. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 12:03:15 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:01:58 2011. Such is the nature of the liberal. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:04:05 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Sep 27 11:54:10 2011. Of course. Obama has used every other excuse, so may as well.When a Republican is in charge, EVERYTHING that goes wrong is his fault, but when it's a Democrat, it's everyone but his fault. My favorite excuse Obama has used was "We had some bad luck". People would respect him a little more if he took a little responsibility. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:07:29 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Sep 27 11:54:22 2011. The Democrats have a really good chance if they would switch horses, as while people are pissed at the current administration, I don't see any shining stars on the Republican side either, other than their good chances of winning because "they are not Obama". |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 12:08:13 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Sep 27 11:54:10 2011.  |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 12:12:00 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:07:29 2011. However, should the demonicrats switch from obama to hilly, there will be loud & angry cries of racism which will undoubtedly move many people from certain demographic groups over to the other side of the aisle in protest. It may not last too long but they will switch allegiances for 2012 at least. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:15:39 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 12:08:13 2011. Obama's excuse list for current economic conditions is growing by the day. Everything and everyone but himself.1) Bush 2) Japan earthquake and tsunami 3) Speculators 4) Corporate Jet Owner 5) Corporations sitting on money 6) ATM's 7) Tea Party 8) Republicans 9) The weather 10) Big Oil 11) Insurance Companies 12) Pharmaceutical Companies 13) tax cuts 14) tax increases 15) Wall Street fat cats 16) The Arab Spring 17) European economies 18) Fox news 19) Talk radio” |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:16:24 2011, in response to Top Obama List of Excuses Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:15:39 2011. And I forgot his "best".... "We had a run of bad luck"..... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 12:20:42 2011, in response to Re: Top Obama List of Excuses Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 12:16:24 2011. let us not forget:"A few bumps in the road!" "Shovel ready projects were not really shovel ready" and of course "The Rich" |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 27 12:26:10 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Sep 27 11:54:10 2011. Certainly if we wanted to elect a person who could make excuses, you would have been a better choice than the current occupant. You think better on your feet - come up with excuses faster and without a teleprompter and sound so woeful when you do. Of course we elected a president to fix things which this bozo has not. Soooooooo................ |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 12:27:05 2011, in response to Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by Easy on Mon Sep 26 21:35:19 2011. btw- The idiots protesting Wall Street, are the same kind of people who will riot if Obama loses. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 12:27:42 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by vfrt on Tue Sep 27 10:17:09 2011. You disagree b/c you don't know how it works. You don't know what is happening in America. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 12:33:14 2011, in response to Re: Guess which protesters are gathering for Obama's LA visit?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 27 10:27:35 2011. Moderate schmoderate. No such thing in this partisan nation. Few people jump back and forth between parties.And for everyone who does, which is a very tiny number, there is someone who turned 18 since the last election and can't wait to vote for Obama because they missed out last time. Like the kids sitting next to me at WWE RAW in Tampa on November 3, 2008. |
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