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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 28 02:27:17 2010 Now how dead are the Nazis? Another mask dropped.GFP
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 13:07:38 2011, in response to Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 28 02:27:17 2010. Yes, it stings, don't it. Especially in light of the Bundeswehr becoming all-volunteer. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 4 13:13:49 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 13:07:38 2011. Und ein happy blitzkrieg day to you und your little republican friends too! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jul 4 16:17:19 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 4 13:13:49 2011. Also note OLOG replied to his own post. Suspect most OTChatters just ignore him. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 16:50:17 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jul 4 16:17:19 2011. Headlines too scary? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 4 17:30:20 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jul 4 16:17:19 2011. How else would an American celebrate the fourth? :) |
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Posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 4 18:39:14 2011, in response to Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 28 02:27:17 2010. Looking past your psychological conditions, ask yourself whether the Wehrmacht had an effective training manual. If the answer is “yes”, then I’m not surprised that it has been plagiarized.I would agree that some of the references to historical figures from the Nazi era could have been deleted, but that doesn’t change the basic premise of the manual. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 4 18:47:32 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 4 18:39:14 2011. They could have used the substance of Wehrmacht manuals without keeping the WW II references. I doubt US training manuals still talk about the best way to fight the Germans.I suspect laziness rather than politics, but who knows. it might have been some author's way of sneaking in some kind of political point. |
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Posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 4 18:50:44 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 4 18:47:32 2011. Agreed. Especially the laziness part. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 19:13:58 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 4 18:39:14 2011. ask yourself whether the Wehrmacht had an effective training manualOne cannot answer that without taking in all the implications. Three case scenarios are about the Nazi invasion of the USSR. (If you had read the article, you would have known that.) So they're setting themselves up for sudden attack against civilian targets. Ask yourself why you aren't worried about such things, because of the implications, which aren't going away. As for "psychological conditions", show me your qualifications to make such statements . . . and does that mean you're passing judgment on the writers of the article as well as those who wrote the articles they cited? |
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Posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 4 19:21:45 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 19:13:58 2011. psychological conditions.I have no qualifications to make such statements. While I cannot diagnose you as paranoid, I do see paranoid behavior on your part. And, no, I’m not going to nitpick the training manual apart. I don’t know enough to do so, and I rest on my assertion that good training methods stand the test of time, even at the expense of political correctness. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 19:24:51 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 4 19:21:45 2011. While I cannot diagnose you as paranoid, I do see paranoid behavior on your partIf you can't make such a diagnosis, how can you tell? I’m not going to nitpick the training manual apart. I don’t know enough to do so, and I rest on my assertion that good training methods stand the test of time, even at the expense of political correctness They did lose WWII, you know, and most of what they did had to do with sneak attacks. What's more important is the re-Nazification aspect, and that has nothing to do with being politically correct. Ideology, understand? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 4 19:27:51 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 4 19:21:45 2011. One shouldn't argue with Olog over these things ... he has a chest full of medals and has marched into every campaign imaginable. You should see how he singlehandedly took out Iran and made the world a whole lot safer for scrapple and the American way. :) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jul 4 21:40:35 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 4 19:27:51 2011. YES!!! Olog is a legend in his own mind. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 4 21:41:55 2011, in response to Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 28 02:27:17 2010. Oops. Thought the title said Budweiser. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 21:45:57 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 4 21:41:55 2011. Maybe you were thinking of this thread. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 21:46:36 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jul 4 21:40:35 2011. How come it is that all of ye can only muster argumentum ad hominem? |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 4 21:50:47 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 21:45:57 2011. Oh well. Budweiser is an EU company now anyway. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 4 22:00:31 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 4 21:50:47 2011. See what you went and did? There's a German in EVERY woodpile. Don't let them get wet and definitely don't feed them after midnight. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 4 22:59:06 2011, in response to Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 28 02:27:17 2010. Well yeah, dummy. They'd have to translate anyone else's.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 5 00:22:06 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 4 22:59:06 2011. So they're so stupid that they can't translate? I should let them know you said that.Wonder how you'd feel about the US military using Wehrmacht and SS manuals. Bet you'd be singing a very different tune . . . |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 5 00:27:13 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 5 00:22:06 2011. Screw that ... we brought over the REAL nazis and put them to work HERE. Who do you think created our space program, and gave Curtis LeMay tips on how to nuke the Russkies? We split them with the Russkies. Everybody went home with a pet nazi. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 5 09:49:01 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 5 00:22:06 2011. It's not a big leap of faith to think the US Military hasn't studied them. Germans have always been skilled in matters military so their info has some value. They have their flaws, too, but nobody fucks with Germany so they must have done something right.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 5 09:58:22 2011, in response to Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 28 02:27:17 2010. The whole long-standing AirLand doctrine of the US Armed Forces is based on the German WW2-era's Blitzkrieg.So is Israel's. But then again, that's America and what do you care? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 5 22:08:07 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 4 21:46:36 2011. Because you are in your cave 24/7/365 so those of us who don't believe what you post (99 44/100 EU stuff) we can pick on you. The bonus is your handle proves you are a troll and you cannot deny it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 5 22:16:10 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 5 22:08:07 2011. those of us who don't believe what you postYou can't deny it. I'm not writing it personally, so how is it logical to disbelieve it? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 6 22:26:59 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 5 22:16:10 2011. Why should I believe anything posted by a Third Earth Troll? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 6 22:31:23 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 6 22:26:59 2011. LOL, there you go with "Third Earth" versus "Middle Earth" again. Quick quiz: Mumm-Ra was the primary villian of which fictitious "Earth"?How is it that someone posting something makes something written by someone else unbelievable? You really are making no sense. If Sellkommunism posted it, you'd believe it, then? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 6 22:49:16 2011, in response to Re: Germany's Bundeswehr using Wehrmacht/SS reference for training manual, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 6 22:31:23 2011. Meanwhile ... in Germany ... |
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