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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:07:33 2011 A black Democrat dares to vote with the right on an abortion bill and the Dems throw stuff at her:http://technorati.com/politics/article/florida-democrats-spar-throw-office-supplies/ Even though I disagree with her, this is just pathetic. Note the idiots throwing stuff are liberal white males. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 15:09:27 2011, in response to Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:07:33 2011. Now, this poses a real problem - especially for certain fat-assed liberals. Hmmmmmm get ready for the spinning to start. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:20:00 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 15:09:27 2011. She voted with those white racist extremists! She's not really black. Therefore, they are not racists for what they did. #liberallogic |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 16:25:47 2011, in response to Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:07:33 2011. According to your link they were throwing paper at each other so it was one white male and one black female, not "liberal white males".Oh and good for her. End the state sponsored genocide. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 16:29:15 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 16:25:47 2011. End the state sponsored genocide.LMAO. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 16:51:14 2011, in response to Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:07:33 2011. No mention of the actual bill... |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 16:53:58 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 16:51:14 2011. That's cuz the food fight is always more colorful than the menu.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 16:55:00 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 16:51:14 2011. The actual bill is irrelevant to the story. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 17:08:16 2011, in response to Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:07:33 2011. She should be thrown out of the party for that vote. Interfering with an abortion should be a felony. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 17:09:24 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 16:55:00 2011. No it isn't, Jesus Freak. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 17:10:50 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 17:09:24 2011. Jesus freak?You do understand I am not Christian. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 17:13:22 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 17:10:50 2011. You support the Jesus line because you're a deadbeat who dosen't want to pay taxes. America would be better off if your mother had an abortion. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 17:27:42 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 16:25:47 2011. As always, LuchAAA is right. Abortion is going to become a race issue, more than a woman's rights issue.And why are you using such strong words? "State sponsored genocide"? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 17:30:42 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 16:25:47 2011. You're an IDIOT!!!No Jesus, KNOW peace Know Jesus, NO PEACE. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 17:38:47 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 17:30:42 2011. That's incorrect.Even if religion didn't exist, man would divide based on race, ethnicity, political beliefs, or a number of other reasons. Man, by nature is divisive. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 17:40:25 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 17:27:42 2011.  your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 17:49:11 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 17:38:47 2011. But atheism is already contrary to man's nature. It's why communist states had to create a cult of personality to replace the cult of the creator. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed May 4 18:34:13 2011, in response to Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:07:33 2011. Well, least he didn't confront anyone in the shower while in the nude. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 19:15:34 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 17:30:42 2011. This has nothing to do with religion. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 20:24:06 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 17:27:42 2011. Because he's stirring the pot a little. This place just isn't as much fun without pot stirring. You of all people should know that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 20:27:28 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 20:24:06 2011. I'll bet that most of the people on this board don't stir their pot. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:38:02 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 20:24:06 2011. Do you think that too many black babies (or fetuses if you prefer) are being aborted? Do you think that the government is paying for it? Do you think that the government is encouraging it? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:43:12 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:38:02 2011. No I think the urban culture is encouraging it as birth control.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:51:41 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:43:12 2011. I'm not familiar with that aspect of urban culture and the problem is not just an urban one. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 20:53:03 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:38:02 2011. I think too many babies period are being aborted.I believe that government assistance may be paying for it. I don't think that the government is encouraging it. Babies are expensive and people who can't afford to have babies are aborting them. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:55:26 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:51:41 2011. There is no problem, it's simply abortion. There is no genocide.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:59:14 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 20:53:03 2011. Blacks are only 13% of the US population yet are 36% of all abortions. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:00:59 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:55:26 2011. That was hyperbole on my part, but I can see how it could be seen that way even if I don't. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:02:52 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:00:59 2011. It'd be a stretch; it's not like anyone is being forced to have abortions. They're simply available.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:12:10 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:02:52 2011. But it's different because abortions are subsidized by the government. In anything else it would indicate an obvious racial bias. It's the same type of logic that made the LAPD stop ticketing students for truancy because too many of the students ticketed were minority. If too many minorities are ticketed then the law is obviously discriminatory (or so they argued and won). The fact that blacks are disproportionately aborted is de facto evidence that the procedure is discriminatory. Unless one thinks (as many that responded to my other thread did) that aborting blacks is a good thing compared to the alternative of them being born poor. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:19:33 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:12:10 2011. But people are demanding abortions. It's not like they're walking in saying "what do I do?" They know what they need done and are asking for the procedure by name. I have hearsay evidence from medical acquaintences that this is common. That's why I think it's more urban birth control than not. It's Blacks having abortions of their own free will and not somebody doing something to them.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:26:59 2011, in response to Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:07:33 2011. Not surprising, that's how the left acts when they don't get their way. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:38:11 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:19:33 2011. I know that Planned Parenthood does give advice and I don't think that all women and girls are as sure about what they should do as you think. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:45:06 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:38:11 2011. I didn't say all but enough to refute the victim card.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 21:48:20 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 17:13:22 2011. Does that mean you support the Satan line? Oh yeah, since you're against Israel, you do . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 21:49:33 2011, in response to Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:07:33 2011. Guess you can get worse than Alan Grayson out of FL. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 21:53:02 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:59:14 2011. They also make up a disproportionate amount of the lower socioeconomic group. Abortions are tied to socioeconomic status, not race. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 21:55:11 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:12:10 2011. It's not a friggin racial bias. The two groups of people who have the most kids (get pregnant the most often) are the poor and the rich. It just so happens that a disproportionate amount of poor people are black. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:58:32 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 21:53:02 2011. You just made that up because you thought that it sounded good, but it's obviously wrong. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 22:01:37 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:58:32 2011. Nope. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:01:47 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 21:55:11 2011. Hispanics and blacks are about equally poor, but blacks are 3 times more likely than Hispanics to get an abortion. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:03:12 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 22:01:37 2011. Link? |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 22:09:04 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 17:49:11 2011. Atheism isn't contrary to human nature per se, but it is a more recently developed facet of it. Irreligosity is just as heritable as religiosity, but is probably more embraced now because we no longer need mystical forces to explain things. |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 22:10:06 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 20:24:06 2011. Yup, that's true, I have to say. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:12:13 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 22:10:06 2011. LOL.Says the man who posts some very controversial IQ stuff related to minorities. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 22:13:26 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 22:01:37 2011. Well, I've got this:Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States In addition to family status, race/ethnicity and age also correlate with high poverty rates in the United States. Although data regarding race and poverty are more extensively published and cross tabulated the family status correlation is by far the strongest. [edit] Poverty and family status According to the US Census, in 2007 5.8% of all people in married families lived in poverty,[24] as did 26.6% of all persons in single parent households [24] and 19.1% of all persons living alone.[24] [edit] By race/ethnicity and family status Among married families: 5.8% lived in poverty.[24] This number varied by ethnicity with 5.4% of white persons,[25] 8.3% of black persons,[26] and 14.9% of Hispanic persons (of any nationality) [27] living in poverty. Among single parent families: 26.6% lived in poverty.[24] This number varied by ethnicity with 30% of white persons,[25] 40% of black persons,[26] and 30% of Hispanic persons (of any nationality) [27] living in poverty. Among unrelated individuals living alone: 19.1% lived in poverty.[24] This number varied by ethnicity with 18% of white persons [28] 27.9% of black persons [27] and 27% of Hispanic persons (of any nationality) [29] living in poverty [edit] Poverty and race The US Census declared that in 2008 13.2% of the general population lived in poverty:[30] 8.6% of all European Americans 11.8% of all Asian Americans 23.2% of all Hispanics (of any nationality) 24.2% of all American Indians and Alaska Natives 24.7% of all African Americans. About half of those living in poverty are non-Hispanic white, but poverty rates are much higher for blacks and other minorities. 57% of all poor rural children are non-Hispanic white, compared with 28% of poor urban children.[31][copyright violation?] [edit] Poverty and age The US Census declared that in 2007 12.5% of the general population lived in poverty: 18% of all people under age 18 10.9% of all people 19-64, and 9.7% of all people ages 65 and older[24] The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) uses a different measure for poverty and declared in 2008 that child poverty in the US is 20% and poverty among the elderly is 23%.[32] The non-profit advocacy group Feeding America has released a study (May 2009) based on 2005-2007 data from the U.S. Census Bureau and the Agriculture Department, which claims that 3.5 million children under the age of 5 are at risk of hunger in the United States. The study claims that in 11 states, Louisiana, which has the highest rate, followed by North Carolina, Ohio, Kentucky, Texas, New Mexico, Kansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Idaho and Arkansas, more than 20 percent of children under 5 are allegedly at risk of going hungry.The study was paid by ConAgra Foods, a large food company.[33] |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 22:16:17 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:12:10 2011. Fallacy (AFAIK one that has yet to be named but should be): equality of opportunity does not translate into equality of outcome. Just because races or genders are not proportionally statistically represented in any practice or process doesn't imply discrimination (it would only if the target populations were identical in every relevant way, which they are obviously not). |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 22:17:38 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 21:53:02 2011. Not necessarily. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:18:19 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 22:13:26 2011. Yes that shows that 23% of Hispanics and 25% of blacks live in poverty yet blacks are 50% more likely to get an abortion (sorry I was wrong about 3x). |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:19:05 2011, in response to Re: Disgusting incident in FL legislature, posted by JayMan on Wed May 4 22:16:17 2011. I know, but that is often the presumption such as with the firefighters in New Haven. |
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