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Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 19:38:49 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:25:20 2011. A twist in da plot ... mit ein Hamilton Beach electric knife to the top his way hacks, ja? :) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 19:42:37 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 19:09:38 2011. if your supposed claim is true, lets see the evidence...otherwise i call bluff. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 19:44:04 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:08:18 2011. Not me. Just pay your taxes. how do you think they bought the bullets they used on Binny Boy? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:45:48 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 19:42:37 2011. It's not a claim but a suggested reason. It's more logical than any I've heard in this thread.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 19:46:21 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 19:13:48 2011. again, if you dont qualify for the job, or dont want to take whats in the job description, then dont take it. do something else. also, theres different skill levels in those other jobs...also why they get paid more. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 19:47:41 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 19:46:21 2011. I'd sure hate to work for you. SCUMBAG. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 19:52:22 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 19:47:41 2011. Come on, Mike. What would your boss say if you didn't want to do what he hired you to do? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 19:53:40 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 19:42:37 2011. It's not a claim. It's an excuse...... |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 19:55:08 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 19:52:22 2011. I don't have that problem. I outproduce. That's my secret. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 19:58:03 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 4 19:44:04 2011. ?????? no idea what maids in california have to do with taxes, or bin laden, but okay, yes i pay my taxes. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 20:00:57 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:45:48 2011. didnt say it wasnt, but lets see the data.... |
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Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 20:10:33 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 20:00:57 2011. I wonder how nancy pelosi feels about this bill. After all, she owns a very large stake in the multi-millionaire hotel, the Napa Valley Auberge Du Soleil Resort . Since they do not hire union workers at that hotel, I wonder if nancy is going to support this bill to make life easier for her workers. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:14:23 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:05:52 2011. Couldn't they and wouldn't they charge a higher premium based on what type of sheets were used rather than making a law requiring one type of sheet? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:14:38 2011, in response to Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 20:10:33 2011. She texted me and I suggested she support it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 20:17:22 2011, in response to Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 20:10:33 2011. I don't know, nor do I care.I'd assume she's got more important things to worry about rather than some stupid bill in the California state assembly. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:19:33 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:14:23 2011. That all depends on how much is going out vs. how much they actually can raise the premium vs. how much it costs to lobby the state assembly. The cheapest path wins.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:29:08 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 20:00:57 2011. I don't need data as I'm standing on common sense. I say it's probably due to the insurance companies wanting to save money on workman's comp claims. You say they passed this law because ____________.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 20:32:05 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:29:08 2011. pandering to the hotel workers union? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 20:35:16 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 20:32:05 2011. I can see that happening, too.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 20:42:05 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:08:18 2011. Insurance companies don't pass the totality of these workers comp and health costs solely to the hotel industry otherwise it would have been the latter to request it. They pass them on to EVERYONE.This is a good bill. You just hate the fact that it also happens to help Lupe and Consuelo. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 20:54:45 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 20:32:05 2011. If they belong to SEIU then they belong to perhaps the most powerful and influential union in California. They are hard to ignore. After all many of their members might one day be granted amnesty and the right to vote. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 21:00:18 2011, in response to Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 20:10:33 2011. She isn't your Congressperson, why should you care?You're 3000 physical miles away, and lightyears from all the other levels, from those about those affected directly by this bill. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:06:52 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 20:17:22 2011. It's her state, so I would HOPE she cares what nonsensical laws it draws up. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:07:36 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 21:00:18 2011. Yes, that's what they said about most bills when as they start in California, and then spread like cancer to the rest of the country. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 21:14:30 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:07:36 2011. It's always the liberals with no experience dealing with unions and labor contracts that have all the smug answers. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 21:14:31 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:07:36 2011. You think that protecting workers is pointless?Granted, these sort of things should be provided by the employer in order to make the job less stressing and therefore increase productivity. It's a shame that the government has to force employers to spend 25¢ so they can save $1. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:15:54 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 21:14:30 2011. And it's always the conservatives who know more about cleaning toilets than those who do. Moo. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:16:11 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 20:42:05 2011. You just hate the fact that it also happens to help Lupe and Consuelo.What the FUCK are you talking about, you racist asshole. What the HELL does the nationality of these people have to do with it. You fuckin assholes only think about race all the F'IN time and it's getting old. everything that's criticized is because of "race" with you people. You can't come up with anything better so you begin with "you racist". Is that all you leftists think of? It's fucking ridiculous. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:23:24 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:15:54 2011. Don't like cleaning toilets, don't take the job. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:23:42 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 21:14:31 2011. Less stressing. LOL. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:26:15 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:05:52 2011. Well I looked into it and the insurance industry has nothing to do with this and other than anecdotal stories there is no evidence that I could find that argued that hotel workers missed more work or filed more claims than any other industry. There are stories of 69 year old women not being able to do it, but wtf? Should we pass a law to make construction equipment lighter so that 69 yo women can work construction?In any event this law is from the labor unions and was filed by a legislator whose mother cleaned hotel rooms. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 21:26:56 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:23:42 2011. Physically. Obviously you've never done a minute of physical labor in your life. Such disconnects are prevalent among financial types. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:31:56 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:23:24 2011. That's how it's been working out so far ... but you guys don't like those illegals ... conundrum? :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:33:53 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:26:15 2011. All I found was this Huffpo story on it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/19/california-hotel-maids-bedsheets_n_850766.htmlThe insurance angle is a supposition on my part, much like the union angle is. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:36:36 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:33:53 2011. Several of the stories mention union support. None mention support from insurance companies. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:37:31 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:26:15 2011. Pssssst! :)http://hospitalityrisksolutions.com/2010/04/24/hospitality-industry-workplace-injuries-over-4-of-california-state-workers-comp-claims-filed-for-hospitality-workers-with-injuries-including-skin-wounds-strains-and-other-injuries-leading-to-over/ |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:39:28 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:36:36 2011. Sources?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:40:02 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:37:31 2011. That article is about restaurant workers. Maybe the state should ban stoves and restaurants be required to microwave. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 21:41:02 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:16:11 2011. What the FUCK are you talking about, you racist asshole.That's wrong. 
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:41:22 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:39:28 2011. From your link:Some hotel trade groups have come out against the bill, saying the regulations are unnecessary and would be prohibitively expensive. It had the support, however, of UNITE HERE, the nation's largest hospitality labor union. “What we see on a daily basis is women hurting their backs and ruining spinal disks,” said Leigh Shelton of UNITE HERE. “Especially with the introduction of this sort of more luxurious bedding. Go stay in a Westin and imagine these women having to lift them.” |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:43:05 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:40:02 2011. It includes hotel workers too.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:44:23 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:40:02 2011. "Workers employed in facilities such as wineries, country clubs and hotels were also included in the sample. "Didn't say it was definitive ... there's plenty of other PR pieces as well, but I don't consider this thread worth the effort ... haters gonna hate. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:48:40 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:43:05 2011. Only hotel, country club, and winery restaurant workers unless I'm reading it wrong.The study detailed data on more than 137,000 claims filed by restaurant workers in California for work-related injuries that occurred from January 2000 through the end of 2008. Researchers said that more than 90 percent of the claims were filed by employees in restaurants and taverns. Workers employed in facilities such as wineries, country clubs and hotels were also included in the sample. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:49:00 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:41:22 2011. When someone says "Several of the stories mention union support." I kinda expect to see something other than my link LOL.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 21:49:17 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:23:24 2011. Speaking of toilets, did you get your float valve working yet |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:50:40 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:48:40 2011. Yes, so we agree it includes hotel workers too.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:50:49 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:48:40 2011. I imagine they're still shopping for microwaves and will presenting a bill for that purpose later. :)There's a hearing scheduled for the 9th, BTW ... I won't be attending since I don't have credentials for Sacramento. Heh. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 21:56:42 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:16:11 2011. Smaz is a racist asshole. You hit the nail right on the head.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:56:50 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:50:40 2011. Heh. Nope. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 22:00:01 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 21:56:42 2011. He's not racist.your pal, Fred |
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