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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 17 18:51:36 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 17 18:45:40 2008. Careful Pigs. You might be called an ashhole by Ron in Bullshit as he called me when intimatede the same thing in this post. But it's true. Gays can't say discrimination when it is perfectly legal for them to marry just like straights. And straights can't have a same sex marriage so where's the discrimination? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 19:03:30 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 17 18:45:40 2008. Why should straight people hoard all the misery!!!!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 17 21:42:29 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 17 14:39:42 2008. I disagree. The other branches can amend the Constitution or pack the court. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 17 21:44:38 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by caseyjim on Sat May 17 13:39:44 2008. Rev. Phelps! I didn't know you were a railfan! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 17 22:23:09 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 19:03:30 2008. For all those who claim gay marriage will destroy the institution of marriage, divorce has done a pretty good job of destroying the institution of marriage already.My view is it's a civil rights issue, the various religions can do what they want, however they need to take a hands off from the states should do. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 17 22:41:56 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 17 22:23:09 2008. What are "civil rights"? Nobody asks that question. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 17 22:44:30 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 17 21:44:38 2008. Haven't seen this one express an opinion about trains yet. Seems to be a busfan, though. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:01:24 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Easy on Sat May 17 16:58:09 2008. And if the proposition isn't passed will gay groups go back to court to overturn the will of the people? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:06:40 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:01:24 2008. If the proposition isn't passed they won't have to. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:24:18 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 17 22:23:09 2008. After the first gay marriage, I wonder how long it will be before the first gay divorce? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:29:05 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:06:40 2008. If the proposition isn't passed in California, they'll likely continue argueing in state court while heading to another state court to argue all over again. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:32:00 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:24:18 2008. Probably not very long. The two chicks in the first marriage in either SF or Massachusetts (I don't remember which) broke up 6 months or so after their ceremony.Not to mention that guys already struggle with monogamy. There will be two guys in gay marriages. You do the math. ;) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:34:21 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:29:05 2008. How could they? I don't believe that there are any lower courts that can overturn the California supreme court. They are appealing the ruling, but the supreme court is it. California has to amend the constitution if it wants to ban gay marriage. That's all there is to it. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:40:03 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:32:00 2008. I could see a same sex couple breaking up because the 2 people couldn't get along just like a straight couple. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:46:09 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:34:21 2008. I'm not talking about a lower California court overturning a California supreme court ruling. I meant a court in another state. Not that a supreme court in say Oregon can overturn a California ruling. My understand is that if 1 state allows same sex marriages, it has to be allowed in the the other 49 states.Eventually this thing will go all the way to the US supreme court in Washington DC. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:48:55 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:40:03 2008. That's very obvious. Wouldn't you think that would go without saying? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:50:12 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:46:09 2008. That isn't correct at all. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 18 00:51:31 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 00:46:09 2008. That's not what the Constitution says. Ever read the 10th Amendment? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 18 00:52:48 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 17 21:42:29 2008. But then the Supreme Court could declare the amendments unconstitutional. See?Packing the court is undemocratic, besides. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 01:02:05 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:48:55 2008. The only question is when will it happen. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 01:04:26 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 18 00:51:31 2008. It's getting late, I'll read it sometime sunday evening. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 01:05:44 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 18 00:52:48 2008. That has never stopped some presidents from trying it.I think FDR tried it in the late 30s. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 18 01:47:14 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 18 00:52:48 2008. How can they declare the amendments unconstitutional? If you change the Constitution, you can make all sorts of crazy laws!How is packing the court undemocratic? It would be an act of a democratically-elected Congress. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 18 01:48:25 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 01:02:05 2008. It's already happened. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 18 01:52:06 2008, in response to Re: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!, posted by Forest Glen on Sat May 17 01:29:17 2008. Mother I'd like to ellipsis? Wouldn't that be MILE? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 01:54:52 2008, in response to Re: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 18 01:52:06 2008. Well then, I'd walk a mile for a MILE.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 02:07:34 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:32:00 2008. Not to mention that guys already struggle with monogamy. There will be two guys in gay marriages. You do the math. ;)I see the divorce rate climbing to 81% :D your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 02:25:41 2008, in response to Re: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!, posted by Forest Glen on Sat May 17 01:29:17 2008. well you're wrong. use the term correctly or not at all. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 02:26:18 2008, in response to Re: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!, posted by Forest Glen on Fri May 16 10:49:35 2008. how do you expect people to respect you when you talk like that? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 02:27:18 2008, in response to Re: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!, posted by Easy on Fri May 16 22:08:12 2008. lol |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 18 02:28:04 2008, in response to Re: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!, posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 01:54:52 2008. Always a mile between smiles, as the teacher told us . . . |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 02:32:53 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:48:55 2008. so true. thanks. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 02:33:13 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 01:02:05 2008. it's probably already happened hundreds of times. don't you get it? obviously not. |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sun May 18 10:51:27 2008, in response to Re: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 17 01:17:24 2008. Yes I know......... |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sun May 18 10:53:01 2008, in response to Re: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 17 01:17:24 2008. How about LILF? Is that ok??? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 11:44:43 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Easy on Sun May 18 00:50:12 2008. lol. what a waste of your time, talking to him. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun May 18 12:44:54 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 11:44:43 2008. I find it a little frustrating. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon May 19 00:43:23 2008, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by daDouce Man on Sun May 18 01:02:05 2008. It must be later than I thought. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Sat Oct 23 22:22:59 2010, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by caseyjim on Sat May 17 13:39:44 2008. did god's wrath ever strike? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 23 22:49:28 2010, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 14:37:08 2008. "shouldn't all issues of constitutionality be decided by the US Supreme court"If you mean issues under the US Constitution, ultimately, yes. But the state supreme courts have every right to interpret the US Constitution in cases before them that raise such issues. Their judgments may then be appealed to the US Supreme Court. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 23 22:50:54 2010, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 14:37:08 2008. "Since the federal government has no constitutional right to regulate marriage, it is a state issue"Yes, but -- unless fundamental rights under the US Constitution are infringed under the state's laws. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Mar 31 23:54:43 2011, in response to Re: The Court Decision (was: Lucky Ellen DeGeneres!), posted by caseyjim on Sat May 17 13:39:44 2008. it's been almost three years and still no earthquake! |
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