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JayZee: Mubarak Still in Egypt, not UAE (WAS Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop! )

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Feb 12 15:36:58 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop! (From Cairo to Sharm el-Sheikh), posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 11 08:54:54 2011.

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So, do you still believe that Mubarak is en route to the UAE?

Here is an interesting article on where Mubarak actually is, as opposed to where al-Jazeera thought he might be going.

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Re: JayZee: Mubarak Still in Egypt, not UAE (WAS Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop! )

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 12 15:47:52 2011, in response to JayZee: Mubarak Still in Egypt, not UAE (WAS Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop! ), posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Feb 12 15:36:58 2011.

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This WP article only goes as far as saying Mubatak was "reported" to be in Sharm-al-Sheikh. Here is a Sky News (UK) article which reports that security at Mubarak's villa there is 'surprisingly low-key', although he is said to be in residence there. At this point, I will concede that it may be some time before we really know Mubarak's actual whereabouts.

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Re: Mubarak resigns, reveals democracy in Egypt will result in radical Islamic government

Posted by clearaspect on Sat Feb 12 16:11:49 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak resigns, reveals democracy in Egypt will result in radical Islamic government, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 12 13:22:46 2011.

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This coming from the guy who allowed police to detain and abuse people without reason including international journalist?

This coming from the guy who rules with an iron fist for 30 years?

Yeah...you lose again olog...

Already the Egyptian army has said it will continue to honor all treaties including peace with Israel....also they will begin to reform the constitution and the muslim brotherhood has said it won't have anyone run for president or parliment...

Yeah...you lose again olog....

Stick to what you do best and hide under the bed fearing the germans...

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 12 16:12:13 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 10:44:10 2011.

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I blame Disney for that kind of social arrested development in the US.

A Fascist company.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by clearaspect on Sat Feb 12 16:15:19 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 12 16:12:13 2011.

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Can we just say evil?

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Re: JayZee: Mubarak Still in Egypt, not UAE (WAS Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop! )

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Feb 12 16:30:02 2011, in response to Re: JayZee: Mubarak Still in Egypt, not UAE (WAS Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop! ), posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 12 15:47:52 2011.

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This WP article only goes as far as saying Mubatak was "reported" to be in Sharm-al-Sheikh.

Exactly what others and I have been saying for over 24 hours now...

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 12 16:32:20 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by clearaspect on Sat Feb 12 16:15:19 2011.

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Walt Disney was a Hitler sympathizer and a draft deserter.
I shit on his frozen corpse.

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Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 12 17:32:45 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East'', posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 09:01:51 2011.

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Nah ... the Germans are already transporting the Sphinx to the Rheinland. :)

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Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East''

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 17:42:29 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 12 17:32:45 2011.

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I hear they're calling it "The Schtinx".

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 12 18:07:07 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East'', posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 17:42:29 2011.

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Let the angst begin ... love schtinx. Yeah-yeah ... :)

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sat Feb 12 19:20:38 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 11 08:34:23 2011.

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Yes, now the Islamists can take over the country.

FWIW, the pastor of the local Coptic church here said that the last fifty years in Egypt, and particularly the last ten, have been terrible for Christians there, and remarkably the daily crimes against churches there stopped eighteen days ago.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 19:45:46 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 10:12:42 2011.

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Sallam's clairvoyant you know.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 19:46:47 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 19:45:46 2011.

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WTF is wrong with that fool

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 19:47:48 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 11 20:53:13 2011.

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To be pitied....fer shure.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 19:49:08 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 11:46:44 2011.

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my cat would have a fun time with that....too

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 19:49:09 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 06:13:35 2011.

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i dont need that kind of love

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 19:52:50 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 15:14:57 2011.

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Helping Salaam seel his tapes now. That's great! Glad to see you finallly playing nice and helping him out. What brought on this sudden change?

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 19:55:26 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 19:52:50 2011.

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lol

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 20:02:56 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 19:46:47 2011.

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It's almost Valentines day and he's sweet on you. Be afraid, be very afraid.


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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:03:23 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 20:02:56 2011.

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omg hell no !

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:06:37 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 19:46:47 2011.

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You claim you have killfile.
Killfile means you can't read my posts.
But you are responding to others when they respond to my posts!
So how do you know what they are responding to?


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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:07:52 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 19:52:50 2011.

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Aren't you white?

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 12 20:08:04 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sat Feb 12 19:20:38 2011.

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Ya can't fight the propaganda machine with reality. Like balloon boy, they want to believe. :-\

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:09:26 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 19:47:48 2011.

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You also!

In this post you yourself tell us you don't respond to all my posts, but yet you seem to be on a roll tonight!

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 20:18:47 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:03:23 2011.

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What can I say?

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:19:09 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 20:18:47 2011.

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i dont know guy

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 20:19:57 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:07:52 2011.

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From the outside it would appear so.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 20:21:22 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:06:37 2011.

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your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:21:43 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 20:21:22 2011.

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lol

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:26:12 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 20:19:57 2011.

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Oh, you're like a Vanilla Ice white guy!

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:28:18 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:21:43 2011.

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The top of his head certainly is!


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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 20:35:10 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:28:18 2011.

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your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:36:16 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 20:35:10 2011.

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true lol

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:37:56 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:36:16 2011.

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Its just an X!

And you can't read my posts so I'm sure you don't know what I just put up!

Killfile is great!!!!!

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 21:35:53 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:26:12 2011.

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Whatever floats your boat

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 21:35:58 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 20:26:12 2011.

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Whatever floats your boat

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Egypt sticks Mubarak on trial

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 3 14:15:17 2011, in response to Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 11 08:25:42 2011.

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So the Islamic Macropus court puts a dying man on trial. How humanitarian of them. The lib media's gone back to fawning over the Islamists too, still mistaking them for "pro-democracy".

Reuters

Egypt puts Mubarak on trial, transfixing Arab world

By Sarah Mikhail and Dina Zayed
Wed Aug 3, 2011 1:15pm EDT
CAIRO (Reuters) — Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, accused of corruption and involvement in killing protesters, went on trial Wednesday, delighting those who overthrew him and ringing an alarm bell for other autocrats around the Arab world.

In a scene that Egyptians would have found unthinkable just eight months ago, the man who ruled them for 30 years was wheeled behind the bars of a courtroom cage in a hospital bed to hear charges that could carry the death penalty.

Mubarak is the first Arab leader to stand trial in person since popular uprisings swept the Middle East this year.

His two sons, Alaa and Gamal, were also in the defendants' cage, clutching copies of the Koran, alongside former Interior Minister Habib al-Adli and six senior security officials.

"I entirely deny all those accusations," said the 83-year-old former president after the prosecutor accused him of intending to kill peaceful protesters during an 18-day revolt that toppled him on February 11 and during the previous decade.

The prosecutor also charged Mubarak with corruption and wasting public funds, and said he had authorized Adli to use live ammunition to quell demonstrations.

About 850 people were killed during the unrest. A lawyer acting for families of the dead demanded execution for Adli.

A military council led by a long-serving defense minister, Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, took over when Mubarak quit. It has promised a transition to democracy in the Arab world's most populous nation — a process far from complete.

Defense lawyers asked for Tantawi, ex-intelligence chief Omar Suleiman and about 1,600 others to testify as witnesses, in a move that could embarrass Egypt's new military rulers.

The military had tried to distance itself from Mubarak, without being able to silence critics who accused it of seeking to shield its former commander by delaying his trial.

Many Egyptians still revere the army but some protesters say it must also be reformed, faulting its handling of the transition and its vast economic interests in Egypt.

"Mubarak's lawyer wants to embroil Tantawi and generals in council who have said several times in the media that they were given orders to fire at protesters to disband protests," military analyst Safwat al-Zayaat said.

Good Intentions

One army officer said Mubarak's trial proved the military's good intentions. "This step unites the army and the people in building a better system, free of corruption," he said.

Protesters had camped out in Cairo's Tahrir Square for three weeks in July seeking a swifter trial for Mubarak and demanding that the military speed up democratic reforms.

After the session, Judge Ahmed Refaat said Mubarak would be moved to a Cairo hospital, instead of the hospital in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh where he has been since April.

He said Mubarak would have to attend the next court session, set for August 15 and that the court would reconvene on August 4 in Adli's case.

Television pictures show the former interior minister leaving the court building smiling and greeting officers who were guarding him before getting into a police truck that took him back to prison.

The trial, televised around the world, transfixed Egyptians and other Arabs, most of whom have spent their lives under authoritarian systems shaken by this year's "Arab Spring."

"I'm so happy. I feel tomorrow will be better and that the next president knows what could happen to him if he goes against his people," Ahmed Amer, 30, a water utility employee, said outside the Cairo courtroom, where crowds watched the trial on a giant screen erected outside.

Ahmed Farghali, 24, among protesters who had gathered outside the Sharm el-Sheikh hospital before Mubarak was flown to Cairo, said he could not believe he would see the president locked in a cage.

"It was beyond my wildest dreams," he said.

The United States — to which Mubarak was a close ally for many years — said the trial was a matter for the Egyptian people.

"We'll obviously follow the trial closely. It's very important that it be a transparent and fair process and we have confidence that they can do that," State Department spokesman Mark Toner said in Washington.

Pro-democracy activists across the Arab world took heart at the sight of Mubarak in the dock.

"The trial no doubt inspires Syrians...to see those implicated in the bloodletting of Syrians and theft of the wealth of Syria put behind bars," said Imadeddin al-Rashid, an Islamic law professor who fled Syria.

In Yemen, protesters watched small television sets they had brought into the tents where they camped out in Sanaa.

"The trial is a historic event for all Arabs, and Arab leaders will see it means that the age of escaping punishment has ended," said protester Abdullah Zeid.

But in Saudi Arabia, a U.S. ally that tolerates no dissent, a government adviser dismissed the trial as a masquerade, saying: "This is a humiliating spectacle for everyone."

Tunisian President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali, the first Arab leader to be ousted this year, was tried and sentenced to jail in absentia. He fled to Saudi Arabia.

Earlier Iraq's Saddam Hussein was toppled by U.S.-led forces, then tried and hanged in 2006.

Political Theater?

Pro- and anti-Mubarak protesters faced off in Cairo, some hurling stones. Hundreds of police tried to calm them down. The state news agency said 53 people had been wounded.

At a small pro-Mubarak rally, people chanted: "Oh Mubarak, hold your head high." Counter-chants of "Raise your voice, freedom will not die," rose from a nearby anti-Mubarak group.

For some of his opponents, Mubarak's appearance smacked of political theater to gain sympathy.

"Why is he on a stretcher? Is he handicapped? This is a playing on people's emotions so we can all start crying over an old man," Mohamed Naguib, 32, said in Sharm el-Sheikh, where some chanted: "The people want the execution of the killer."

Police used live ammunition, rubber bullets and teargas on protesters in Cairo and other cities. When the army finally stepped in and Mubarak was flown off to internal exile in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egyptians erupted into euphoric celebrations.

Egyptians blame Mubarak for economic policies they say filled the pockets of the rich while many of the nation's 80 million people scrabbled in squalor to feed their families. They are also angry at his repression of any opposition.

Yet some are reluctant to see a man who was a bomber pilot and then leader of the air force in the 1973 war with Israel put in the dock. Others are simply tired of the disruption protests have caused and want to return to their daily lives.

(Additional reporting by Edmund Blair, Ahmed Tolba and Yasmine Saleh in Cairo and Marwa Awad in Sharm el-Sheikh; Writing by Alistair Lyon; Editing by Angus MacSwan)


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