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Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 15:26:35 2005

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First, let me start off with Drugs. I think they should be legal and regulated. Drug dealing violence goes down to zero, which effectivley cuts crime in half (maybe even more). Regulate them, provide treatment, and deter kids from doing them. Think cigarettes. I think the less taboo they are, the less kids will do them.


Second, I know gun control is a automatic loser in many parts of this country, but how about gun regulation?


Think about it: Two handguns per household. That's it (except for special circumstances). No one under 18 allowed to carry guns. All gun owners require 20 yearly hours of gun practice and training. Only one gun can be bought per year, of any kind, per household, period. In future, all guns require technology where only registered gun owner is able to fire weapon via handprint/thumbprint recongnition.


Also, laws like only being able to carry maybe 3-5 bullets on you and NEVER being allowed to shoot ANYONE running away from you and yours.



So, in short, you can hunt, you can defend, but you can't go crazy. Gun running goes down to zero.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 21 17:20:22 2005, in response to Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 15:26:35 2005.

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Rather logical on both counts, although the drug/cigarette connection is going the wrong way. We're only a few laws away now from tobacco being determined to be a narcotic, with punitive penalties to match. Perhaps alcohol might be a better comparison.

As far as guns go, I don't possess any. However, living upstate I definitely see the point to having them and using them from time to time. Folks SHOULD be allowed to have allow the guns they want, some people just collect them and show them off, and most gun owners are highly responsible. The idea of regulating BULLETS makes a whole lot more sense than guns. Certain shotgun shells can be lightly regulated, but there's certainlhy no legitimate use for non-military use of hollow points and other high power shells. Those can certainly stand some taxing and dispensing based on a valid justification for their possession.

Congrats, guy ... this idea might float and be worthy of some serious discussion!

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 17:36:48 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 21 17:20:22 2005.

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I think limiting the amount of guns makes sense too. If I can only buy one gun per year, per say, Gun running goes out the window. And since NYS has tough gun laws, that means that combined with the fact I can no longer truck up 500 .38 specials from South Carolina, means gun deaths go down. Add to the fact that any criminal conviction above a misdeamor means "no guns for yu0!" and you've got a recipe for less crime. 'Cuase let's face it, granny ain't gonna give you a gun to go rob people with...


Also, caliber sizes need to go down. You shouldn't be allowed to carry assault rifles on you and bullets cannot be plentyful. Gangbangers can't shoot right anyway so if you limit bullet production you avoid the 'ol "he pissed me off so I'm gonna blast this sucka'!" becasue you can't be wasting bullets like that. Chris Rock said it best when he said that if bullets cost $5,000, then people wouldn't be shootin' anybody.




As for drugs, that would be a huge money-maker for the government. Plus, it gets anti-drug programs out there and allows for better watching over kids getting the stuff. Plus, drug crime goes down to zero. Proff? Since when has alcohol bootlegging been a crime generator? Fact is, alcohol goes legit, Al Capone goes away. Period.....

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by vengence on Fri Oct 21 17:46:36 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 17:36:48 2005.

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What could you really need a gun for?

Guns KILL PEOPLE....

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 21 17:51:45 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by vengence on Fri Oct 21 17:46:36 2005.

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Actually, bullets do ... a gun that's empty is a SAFE gun. :)

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 21 17:55:50 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 17:36:48 2005.

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Yep ... and that's PRECISELY what the repeating of history has taught only a handful. I just hope we do better in the "war on terrorism" than we've done in the "war on drugs." :(

As for the guns though, the popular saw that if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns is true. Restricting the sale won't influence it unless the restriction is applied everywhere and that's just not going to happen.

And by restricting bullets, you'll have the same thing but if gangbangers are forced to load their own shells and mix their own powder, a good number of them will do something stupid and never get a chance to shoot anybody. :)

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 19:03:47 2005, in response to Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 15:26:35 2005.

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Will you STFU, already.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 19:48:37 2005, in response to Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 15:26:35 2005.

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Please, just go away already!!!


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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 19:55:12 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 19:48:37 2005.

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Larry must like him . . . that's the only explanation I can think of . . .

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 19:56:05 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 19:03:47 2005.

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He can't get a GF. On the Net all the time and can't figure out why he can't get a GF . . .

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 19:56:46 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 21 17:51:45 2005.

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Not really; bugs can make nests in the barrel . . .

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by WillD on Fri Oct 21 20:00:30 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 21 17:51:45 2005.

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You can still hit somebody with it.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 21 20:02:19 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by WillD on Fri Oct 21 20:00:30 2005.

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Heh. SPITBALLS! :)

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 20:14:19 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 19:03:47 2005.

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You STFU. Communisum died, get with the program...

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 21 20:14:59 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 19:56:46 2005.

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Or worse ...


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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 20:17:28 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 19:48:37 2005.

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Seeing this post makes it all worth it...

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 21:08:16 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 20:14:19 2005.

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What makes you think that I am a communist? Stop spouting that IDIOTIC gun control crap. You would trust DHS with that info? What a bu$hie, Oh I forgot, that is the ONLY thing bu$h is right about.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 21:09:13 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 19:55:12 2005.

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QB does have entertainment value.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 21:19:06 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 21:09:13 2005.

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Nobody is totally useless. BQB can always serve as a bad example!

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 21:31:56 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 19:56:05 2005.

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Nope, problem solved. I'm doing yours...

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 21:36:30 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 21:08:16 2005.

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No, It is not gun control. It's limits on guns, not eliminating guns.


As for your assumption this would lead to facism, what has stopped it so far? Eliminating crime eliminates a key issue for republican canadates (ie: Guliani) and would lead to better discorse over the REAL issue: Poverty.


Think LBJ. Fact is, you'll like this in the long run. And face it, your AK is no match for a Abrams. If you go "Backwoods Idaho" on them, they'll simply send down singers ala Vietna-oops-I mean Iraq.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 21:41:12 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 21:36:30 2005.

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AKA gun control.

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UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Subway Camper on Fri Oct 21 21:44:09 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 21:36:30 2005.

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Guys! Let's stop this train before it crashes! PLEASE!

You guys just argue, argue, argue. That's it.

You make me SICK! All of you! EVERYONE! Not just you two! ALL of you just HAVE to have the last word. But because you all can't realize that NOT ALL of you can have the last word, you just keep on talking.

Letting something go is not giving up and letting your opponent win, but rather bringing yourself up to a higher level of maturity, an essential trait for getting people to support you.

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 21:45:48 2005, in response to UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Subway Camper on Fri Oct 21 21:44:09 2005.

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Pipe down before you're B7'd. You don't realize that we actually enjoy this, do you?

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Subway Camper on Fri Oct 21 21:48:46 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 21:45:48 2005.

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ENJOY THIS?! You guys ENJOY THIS?

Every time one of you points out a time when I act immaturely, I second guess my decision and consider the fact that he/she is right.

Not anymore. Now that I know you guys ENJOY fights and flames, I will refuse to learn anything from and listen to you all.

I decided to "change my attitude" for the sake of all of YOU. But it really isn't me who needs changing.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by American Pig on Fri Oct 21 21:49:29 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by vengence on Fri Oct 21 17:46:36 2005.

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Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 21:50:34 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Subway Camper on Fri Oct 21 21:48:46 2005.

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Of course it is you. You need to change into us, and grow a thick skin. Maybe with age, eh?

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by American Pig on Fri Oct 21 21:54:01 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 21:31:56 2005.

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Oh yeah? Well the jerk store called, they're running out of you.

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Fri Oct 21 21:55:36 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 21:45:48 2005.

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LOL, yup.

I find this place to be a nice comic relief when I get home from work.

Some of the threads are just hilarious.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 21:56:40 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 21:36:30 2005.

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The NRA should SUPERVISE the DESTRUCTION OF ALL BATF RECORDS.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 21:57:48 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 21:56:40 2005.

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John, you are so mellow and cool in person - a different you!

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Oct 21 21:58:32 2005, in response to Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 15:26:35 2005.

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Second, I know gun control is a automatic loser in many parts of this country, but how about gun regulation?

Look at the HOME INVASIONS that are now happening in areas with the highest gun regulation in the country (40 in Long Island this year). No-One would DARE invade a house protected by an UZI!!!

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:00:07 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Subway Camper on Fri Oct 21 21:48:46 2005.

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Please, God, not another pubicile !!!!!


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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 22:00:53 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:00:07 2005.

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Isn't there an age limit or something on these forums . . . ?

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 22:00:54 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 21:57:48 2005.

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I know, Actually the Right is RIGHT about guns.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by American Pig on Fri Oct 21 22:01:51 2005, in response to Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 15:26:35 2005.

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Answer to question in subject: No, I wouldn't.

Your ideas are not intriguing. The analogy to cigarettes makes no sense, many teens smoke even though it's ridiculously easy for teens to get cigarettes.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 22:01:51 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BMTLines on Fri Oct 21 21:58:32 2005.

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+++***T*R*U*T*H***+++

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:02:25 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 22:00:54 2005.

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If you look hard enough you may find we're right about a few things.

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:03:42 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 22:00:53 2005.

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Watch out. Here comes Pigs with his Elitest Ageist crap.

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 22:03:43 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:00:07 2005.

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PUBICILE
A cool new word from the "Dude" I like it, really.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 22:04:10 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:02:25 2005.

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That's fine, as long as you're the right right and not the fake right (aka Neoconservative "right").

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:04:47 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by BIE on Fri Oct 21 22:03:43 2005.

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Pubicile = Pubescent imbicile

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by American Pig on Fri Oct 21 22:05:31 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:03:42 2005.

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I never complained about Elitesm OR elitism, but yes, if Olog-hai's post had been posted in a more serious nature, then I would have posted my "Ageist crap."

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by American Pig on Fri Oct 21 22:06:10 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:04:47 2005.

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Subway Camper is one, who is the other?

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:08:01 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by American Pig on Fri Oct 21 22:06:10 2005.

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I'd like to include BQB but he's not young enough, just challanged. But there have been others here in the past.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by WillD on Fri Oct 21 22:13:35 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 21:31:56 2005.

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Worst. Comeback. Evar.

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Flatbush41 on Fri Oct 21 22:15:42 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Fri Oct 21 21:55:36 2005.

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Yeah it is certainly some nice comic relief. If some of these people only looked at the words below the message box more often....I can't understand how some folks consistently makes an ass out of oneself.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by Flatbush41 on Fri Oct 21 22:18:53 2005, in response to Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by BrooklynQB on Fri Oct 21 15:26:35 2005.

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First, let me start off with Drugs. I think they should be legal and regulated. Drug dealing violence goes down to zero, which effectivley cuts crime in half (maybe even more). Regulate them, provide treatment, and deter kids from doing them. Think cigarettes. I think the less taboo they are, the less kids will do them.

I wonder if you were smoking some weed when you said this shit. This would only tempt kids to do so even MORE, haven't you thought about the consequences in the long term. But from what I am reading here, its likely that you have not.

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Re: UH OH! Here we go again!

Posted by Subway Camper on Fri Oct 21 22:19:28 2005, in response to Re: UH OH! Here we go again!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 21 22:04:47 2005.

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What does pubescent mean?

But I am NOT an imbicile.

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Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?...

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 21 22:22:05 2005, in response to Re: Drugs and Guns...would you like to hear my thoughts?..., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 21 19:55:12 2005.

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He's way less offensive than a dozen other posters I can think of. If his ideas bore you, turn on your mental killfile and ignore him.





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