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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 10:05:08 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 23:51:57 2010.

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Apparently.

Just kidding!

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Sep 2 10:06:00 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 2 05:04:35 2010.

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They also complained that the bike lane attracts women in bike shorts which is an insult to their Orthodox Jewish religion.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 10:24:34 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Sep 2 10:06:00 2010.

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That's the kind of stuff that drives me crazy. I can see if it causes a nuisance with traffic, parking, etc....but I have no patience when it concerns out there religious beliefs. People riding their bikes, wearing whatever is legal for the city have EVERY right to do so, just as they have every right to wear wool black winter coats in 90 degree summer heat.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 2 11:50:05 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Sep 2 10:06:00 2010.

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You use any kind of ammunition you can. Since this sounds "odd," the media picked up on it. But the real argument was always about parking, which is mundane. And I am very familiar with this issue.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 2 11:51:47 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 06:23:01 2010.

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Yes, I know that you have no patience with proselytizers. I was just giving an analogue.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 2 11:53:25 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 10:01:14 2010.

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The Hebrew writing doesn't give it away?

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 12:03:43 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 06:23:01 2010.

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At least you haven't been stuck with them on a BUS!

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 2 12:26:18 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 23:50:35 2010.

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Nowhere. It's still wrong to even suggest that everyone living in or passing through this town obey a particular religion's laws on dress and activity. The town is NOT private property.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 12:29:59 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 12:03:43 2010.

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I have been stuck with a whole herd of Jehovah's Witness or Morman teenagers going on some kind of "missionary" all along the J line on a train once. it was a horror.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 12:31:37 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 2 11:51:47 2010.

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You always can tell on the dreaded day the Jehovah Witness converge on a neighborhood, all of a sudden there's cars parked all over the street (which rarely has street parking), and there's people in suits and nice clothes walking all over the place.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 12:32:29 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 2 11:53:25 2010.

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Heh, well I have seen that in some majorly Jewish neighborhoods here too. Obviously I knew it wasn't here of course.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 2 12:34:42 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by BMTLines on Wed Sep 1 23:57:51 2010.

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My cousin works for a bank in Monsey. While there are no signs like this here, Jewish control over almost everything is near absolute. Despite employing not a single Jew, the bank closes before sundown on Friday and is always closed on Saturdays. Many other local businesses close for the Sabbath, regardless if it's owned by an observant Jew or not, because the locals will not patronize you if you don't.



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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 12:35:22 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 2 12:26:18 2010.

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That's kind of how I feel too, it's a little nervy to suggest that anyone passing through obey a particular religion's laws on dress or activity. I understand it's not mandatory, but it's still nervy.
I would feel just as offended in a majorly Catholic neighborhood that there were signs suggesting that no one walk around with a cheeseburger on Fridays in lent too.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 2 12:36:09 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 2 08:26:47 2010.

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Then it should be clearly marked as something which holds absolutely no authority. Lots of people will see the sign and feel some pressure to comply with it.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 2 12:42:34 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 10:01:14 2010.

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Old meaning the neighborhood was established/built in the 1870s making it one of the oldest neighborhoods outside of the Old City of Jerusalem? I'm not sure when the current structures date to, but a lot of their run down appearance is on account of the fact the people who live there don't really give much attention to anything besides learning Torah and popping out children. And on occasion throwing stones at immodestly dressed women, Sabbath violators, and the police, burning trash cans.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 12:50:03 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 2 12:42:34 2010.

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Wow.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 12:51:16 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 12:50:03 2010.

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And I guess they don't use those balconies for what happens on Bourbon St in New Orleans!



(Sorry, perhaps a bad taste joke, but it's funny, as the "old" looking buildings with balconies and narrow streets somewhat remind me of the French Quarter ever so slightly.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Sep 2 13:16:23 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 2 08:55:39 2010.

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Oh okay, because I'm thinking back to all the times I've C/R'd through Hasidic neighborhoods, and was trying to remember if I'd even seen the patriarch and matriarch of the family walking together. I tend to just see women pushing strollers while the men walk about ten steps ahead.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 2 13:17:07 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 12:51:16 2010.

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The balconies accomodate sukkot quite well:





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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 13:20:39 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Sep 2 13:16:23 2010.

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I tend to just see women pushing strollers while the men walk about ten steps ahead.

That's what I am used to seeing too.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 13:25:06 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 2 13:17:07 2010.

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Nice lamp post...but that's about all.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Sep 2 13:26:19 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 2 13:17:07 2010.

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I'm seeing that in Willamsburg, too, right off the (J) train. Newish apartment buildings that appear to have been built by orthodox, for orthodox. There are balconies randomly placed, with very similar looking railings like in the pictures you posted, and they seem to have been designed to support a sukkot.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:33:47 2010, in response to ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 1 16:22:24 2010.

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The Islamic Victory Monument @ Ground Zero is going to have a swimming pool.

I am sure the pool will be Shar'ia compliant. That means women can't swim with men. How nice.

The pool will be open to the public. Supposedly.

So I ask, how many white liberals on OT Chat would be willing to go swimming in their pool? SMAZ claims he's a swimmer. He would not swim with those people.

Neither would RPanse.

So how tolerant are those on the List of Libs who support the IVM@GZ? Exactly.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 13:36:15 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:33:47 2010.

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Yup.
And Who would want to go to a pool where they women have to swim by themselves, and probably be dressed in a burqua.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:45:00 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 13:36:15 2010.

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Shar'ia compliant means the women can take their towels off, as long as the men are not around.

Even so, I'd love to see the lily-white liberals like SMAZ, Panse, italianstallion, trainsarefun, and AlM all go swimming with a bunch of dark people in lower Manhattan. It would not happen. The List of Libs are not so tolerant as they pretend to be.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 13:50:55 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:45:00 2010.

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Yeah, I know....I was joking about the burquas, as obviously men and women would never be allowed in the same pool at the same time anyway.....

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:53:54 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 13:50:55 2010.

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Yup. I'd love to see bingbong and Selkirk show up for a swim and be told they can't swim together.

Timothy McVeigh.(I don't know why I said his name, but it comes up all the time lately).

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Sep 2 14:06:47 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:33:47 2010.

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There is a Orthodox Jewish sports gym on Coney Island Ave which bars men and women from going to the same place of the same day - - men can visit the club on certain days while women on other days.



Want to complain about that?

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 15:31:22 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:53:54 2010.

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Why would we want to go to a pool when we have lakes? :)

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 15:59:18 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:53:54 2010.

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I guess you haven't seen the "I guess the artist isn't a railfan" thread at SubChat.

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Re: ... #423

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 17:18:07 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 13:33:47 2010.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 17:27:39 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 13:36:15 2010.

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I've swam with Muslim ladies in Bosnia. They show way more skin than the average American girls and not a fat-ass in sight and could out-drink the most hardcore Irishman.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 17:30:34 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 17:27:39 2010.

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Then are they really Muslims in the true sense of the term. I suspect that they aren't.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 2 17:33:23 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 17:30:34 2010.

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Do tell us what a "Muslim in the true sense of the term" is.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 17:35:04 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 2 17:33:23 2010.

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Strict adherence to Shari'a law.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 17:36:52 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 17:35:04 2010.

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OH ... you mean like Catholic girls? :)

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 2 17:39:13 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 17:35:04 2010.

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You mean a radical?

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 17:51:35 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 17:30:34 2010.

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The Serbs thought so since they massacred them by the hundreds of thousands.

Serb girls are hot too BTW. I love the Serbs. They are lots of fun.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 17:59:19 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 17:36:52 2010.

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OH ... you mean like Catholic girls? :)


Ahhh yes....those paragons of graceful modesty and saintly virtue.

Bosnian Muslim chicks got the Catholics beat when it comes to drinking. They even got the nuns beat. As for modesty, they make Lada Gaga look like St Therese de Lesieux.

I remember when I was in HS in Italy, we had some Turkish exchange students from Izmir. They completely fucked up what my idea and fantasy of a good Muslim girl was supposed to be. Madonna didn't have shit on them (ok...perhaps Madonna did but she's a good Catholic girl).

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 18:01:18 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 17:35:04 2010.

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You mean like Lent, the Advent, Meatless Fridays and no masturbating?

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 18:08:08 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 17:59:19 2010.

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Heh. Nothing like the good old down low. :)

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 18:09:00 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 18:01:18 2010.

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All hail fapless September! Ah well, I'm out. :)

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 2 19:02:23 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 17:59:19 2010.

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I remember when I was in HS in Italy, we had some Turkish exchange students from Izmir.

That's probably where the expression "Vey Izmir" comes from!

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 19:18:26 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 17:59:19 2010.

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Bosnian Muslim chicks got the Catholics beat when it comes to drinking.

Well, in the case of the Catholic girls, there's no ban in the religion prohibiting drinking.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 19:38:08 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 19:18:26 2010.

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But as I mentioned earlier, that makes them not strict Muslims - because there is an objective standard against which it can be measured.

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 19:54:01 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 15:31:22 2010.

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Timothy McVeigh!



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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 19:55:17 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Sep 2 14:06:47 2010.

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Heck, I'll even complain about "Curves", and their discriminatory practices.



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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 19:58:51 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 19:54:01 2010.

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Tom DeLay ...

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 19:59:26 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 19:58:51 2010.

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Timothy McVeigh!

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Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 20:05:11 2010, in response to Re: ... in which I prove that I am not just anti-Muslim, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 19:59:26 2010.

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