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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 1 12:02:17 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Sep 1 10:36:45 2010. When an African-American takes pride in himself he is proud of being black and it is cause for praise in the media and elsewhere.I'm not the media. Taking pride over pigmentation makes about as much sense as me being proud of my brown (sometime grayish) eyes. The same for Native Americans being proud of being red, or Asian peoples proud of being yellow. When a caucasian, however, says he is proud to be white he is accused of being a racist. it's stupid no matter what race the person is. It doesn't make any sense. I am proud of my Italian-American heritage I'm also of Italian descent and a dual citizen (I lived there for many years and my parents still do). I am proud of Italian's positive achievments (there are many) and ashamed of their negative ones (not as many). I have contributed close to nothing on either count since I was a teenager when I came back to the US, so there is nothing that I can be proud (or ashamed) of in my "Italian persona". I don't put value (or shame) upon myself by what my ancestors did. I take pride (or shame) from what I personally do. I don't pigeonhole myself anymore than I pigeonhole others. I'm somebody from the US who happens to have white pigmentation with brown (sometimes gray) eyes who is of Italian descent. I can only take pride in doing things that make myself and my country better. I have nothing to do with the greatness of Leonardo da Vinci, the disgrace of La Mafia, the heroism of the boys of Iwo Jima or the shame of the Ku Klux Klan, let alone anything white people from Sweden, Russia or Argentina who share my same pigmentation may have done well or wrong. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 1 12:13:20 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 1 10:45:00 2010. Why is it okay for there to be "Black Pride" or "Puerto Rican Day Pride" parades, etc?"Black Pride" or "Puerto Rican Pride" is just as stupid. There's nothing wrong with having music or other cultural festivities from the "Old Country" out of nostalgia, fun or artistic merit and honoring those that came before you but saying "I'm proud to be Puerto Rican because Roberto Clemente was a great ballplayer and class act" or "I'm proud to be Italian because Guglielmo Marconi and Alessandro Volta were great inventors" is totally retarded. On the Fourth of July, I'm GRATEFUL for the brilliant work the Founders did and for the sacrifices of those that fought and supported the Revolution. It makes me proud of THEM while humbling me since I don't measure up to that and probably never will. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 1 12:30:16 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 1 10:39:46 2010. Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, 535 U.S. 234 (2002) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 1 14:15:43 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 1 12:13:20 2010. "Black Pride" or "Puerto Rican Pride" is just as stupid.Good, we agree. Unfortunately many leftists don't however. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 15:33:58 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Sep 1 10:31:47 2010. Moo, buddy! And by the way, you spelled "weird" incorrectly. :)And not to worry, you still have plenty of "pay one price" rides in your coupon book with me that are still good ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 15:35:13 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 1 10:46:17 2010. So far, you've only convinced Train Dude that it was worth a quip. Could it possibly be that you're way too hung up for your own good? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 15:51:51 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 1 10:39:46 2010. 
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Thu Sep 2 00:12:47 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 15:33:58 2010. Thanks for the spellcheck my friend. Good to know I still rank high in your pantheon of of Subchatters. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Thu Sep 2 00:15:28 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 1 12:02:17 2010. Well SMAZ, we should all be proud of who we are. Look, if a person doesn't like himself he probably can't love someone either. Well being is a positive self image. At least that's what I think. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 01:00:56 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Thu Sep 2 00:15:28 2010. White people are allowed to be proud of our ethnicity. We are not allowed to be proud of our race. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 2 01:27:18 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 01:00:56 2010. White people are allowed to be proud of our ethnicity.Speaking of which are you still planning on anglicizing your name? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 01:29:38 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 2 01:27:18 2010. I should. Everyone should. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 01:38:29 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 2 01:27:18 2010. "Islamaphobia"? LOL. And people always make fun of the Tea Party misspellings. This guy was at today's pro-terrorism rally in NYC today. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 2 01:46:57 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 01:38:29 2010. Is "Islamophobia" even a real word or slang? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 01:48:50 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Thu Sep 2 00:12:47 2010. Always have as you well know. Civility and respect doesn't cost a dime, and you know I don't suffer fools. :)I mean geez ... it's only politics ... some people take their stuff WAY too seriously. Heh. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 2 01:49:39 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 01:29:38 2010. Nah. The time of the Anglo is past. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 2 01:56:38 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Thu Sep 2 00:15:28 2010. Well SMAZ, we should all be proud of who we are. Look, if a person doesn't like himself he probably can't love someone either.Narcisism never brought progress. There is a difference between self-confidence and a positive self-image based on reality and achievement versus artificial and undeserved self-esteem. The former leads to great things. The latter leads to high schools having 50 valedictorians and the let-down those kids will have when they discover that in the real world, they are not what they were led to believe. The latter is a formula for disaster. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 2 01:58:07 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 2 01:46:57 2010. "Islamaphobia"If a white male spells it that way, it's a "real world and a Tea Party wingnut misspelling". |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Thu Sep 2 10:18:21 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 01:48:50 2010. Heading for Chicago for about six days for a little R and R. Hope you and Olag mend fences by the time I get back. Go to it!!!!!! |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Sep 2 10:47:56 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Thu Sep 2 10:18:21 2010. What are you railfanning plans while in Chicago? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 2 15:21:02 2010, in response to Re: Glenn Beck sorry for Obama comment, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Thu Sep 2 10:18:21 2010. Nah ... upstate, we savor our Hatfield and McCoy ceremonies ... hunt only when ready. Get you some ride, and stop by the Museum of Science and Industry ... great place to spend a day. :) |
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