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A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 20:38:12 2010

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Saw this elsewhere and you'd swear it had been posted on OTchat for all the rage this guy got over there. So figgered it'd be fun to see how it goes over here for the win. :)

AMERICANS:

Brit here. First off let me say I'm not after one of those Europe v USA arguments. I'm just asking a question which MAY be a little bit critical of some things American things, but is not meant to be offensive or bait.

Is it just me or is there a lot of hate in US politics? To be honest I mostly see it with "conservatives" hating "liberals" but I'm sure it goes the other way too.

Take Obama. I'm sure many people don't agree with his politics. But even so you can't believe he is terrible. He is left-wing, but very centrist still. He's not exactly Marx or Staline. It's not like he's turning your lives upside down. But I seem to see a lot of hate towards him, rather than just disagreement.

I've also seem some US conservatives seriously rage against liberals, going so far as to say they wish them dead. This is often based on small things like, for example, wanting an end to the war in Afghanistan. Somehow a single criticism of what the US is doing becomes "you hate America, go and die". Recently I listened to a song on YouTube, which just happened to be anti-war, and again, there was a LOT of raging against anti-war people. Now perhaps these people ARE naive. Perhaps it's stupid to think world peace can be achieved. But how can you *hate* someone for wanting to avoid killing?

Here (the UK) this kind of thing really doesn't seem to happen much. There will be political debates between people of course, but there is not raging or hatred. Party leaders spend more time talking about what is good about themselves instead of just attacking their opponents. It feels like there is more respect. And I think it is because it is recognized that both sides are trying to make things better. Surely it is the same in the US. Different parties ALL want to make things better, the only difference is their opinions on how to do it. So why all the hate?

inb4 hate @ OP

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Re: A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 20:55:25 2010, in response to A new rage for OTchat! :), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 20:38:12 2010.

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Is it just me or is there a lot of hate in US politics? To be honest I mostly see it with "conservatives" hating "liberals" but I'm sure it goes the other way too.

Sounds like someone who was born in 2009. Everything after this sentence isn't worth a reaction.



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Re: A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 21:23:09 2010, in response to Re: A new rage for OTchat! :), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 20:55:25 2010.

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Re: A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 31 21:25:11 2010, in response to Re: A new rage for OTchat! :), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 20:55:25 2010.

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Should worry more about politics at home. Even greater "hate" between the lefties and the righties over there.

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Re: A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 31 21:30:35 2010, in response to A new rage for OTchat! :), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 20:38:12 2010.

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in the uk they're all the same person now. And all I see is hatred over there.

And yes, centrist is tapping your phone calls, tracking you via gps, montioring your emails and facebook, creating a shutdown button for the internet, authorizing targeted killings of americans, going on talk radio and saying "we should have camps for those people", beating them in the streets, having guards patrolling health insurance companies for the protestors who bite off fingers, blank panther pool workers, and so forth.

But then again, as conservative comedian apparently said at a roast, I hope their kidneys failed.

This guy is so divorced from reality, he believes Hitler was misunderstood. Who btw, journals revealed that he wasn't anti-semitic until he hung around with leftists.

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Re: A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Sep 1 02:21:26 2010, in response to Re: A new rage for OTchat! :), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 31 21:25:11 2010.

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You're living in denial. You're all to ready to comment on everything wrong with everyone else or everywhere else but you fail to look in the mirror as to how to solve the US's own problems.

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Re: A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 1 02:46:55 2010, in response to Re: A new rage for OTchat! :), posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Sep 1 02:21:26 2010.

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All of those problems are intertwined. You're correct that merely shifting perspective does not help, though.

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Re: A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 1 04:02:23 2010, in response to Re: A new rage for OTchat! :), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 21:23:09 2010.

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8-)

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Re: A new rage for OTchat! :)

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Sep 1 06:05:20 2010, in response to Re: A new rage for OTchat! :), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 20:55:25 2010.

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ha. If we could all be like England, where a Black woman runs for council and calls her asian opponent a Coconut.

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