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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 18:27:29 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Aug 31 18:22:39 2010. Exactly ... prior to Reagan and Bush, we didn't cower to the Chinese. Thus, cowering to a small number of wailing camel cabbies is no surprise either. :( |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 31 18:28:02 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Aug 31 18:22:39 2010. we don't ?? watch how we all line up for Chineese cheapo stuff at walmart ?? Its the consumer who caters to Chinks, unwiling to buy amercan made products. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 18:30:31 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Aug 31 18:22:39 2010. Clinton sold out to the Chinese just as much as the Republican presidents. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 18:31:59 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 31 18:28:02 2010. Correct. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 18:33:25 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 31 17:47:14 2010. Because there is no analogy, that's the point. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 18:39:56 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 31 18:28:02 2010. And NOW, even if they wanted to, they CAN'T ... :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 18:41:22 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 18:30:31 2010. Actually, along with of all people, Sam Walton (Wal*Mart founder, he's dead now) Clinton pushed for a "Made in America" campaign rather strongly only to have Bush come in and reverse it again. :(More GOP BS ... |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 18:44:12 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 18:41:22 2010. Didn't Clinton sign NAFTA in 1993? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 18:46:29 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 18:44:12 2010. Yep ... and who had the veto-proof votes? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 18:47:42 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 18:46:29 2010. Whoops! I was wrong! That was all put together under Daddy Bush ... |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 19:00:00 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 18:47:42 2010. I guess it also was Papa Bush who rented out the Lincoln Bedroom to the Chinese for 200 grand a night? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 19:04:37 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 31 18:28:02 2010. American made products cannot compete because we've priced ourselves out of the labor market. Working conditions, salaries and benefits improve, but as they do, their numbers dwindle. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 19:05:05 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 19:00:00 2010. Wow ... you can really clutch for a life raft, can't ya? :)Hey ... is that a black helicopter I hear behind ya there? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 19:07:20 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 19:05:05 2010. lol |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 19:09:25 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 19:04:37 2010. Yeah, you'd think those prices would have come down to actually MATCH the differential. But they didn't. But not to worry ... slavery will solve that problem! The more you support this, the less you'll make. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 31 19:23:45 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 18:44:12 2010. December 8 of that year. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 31 19:24:36 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 18:30:31 2010. I think he one-upped them by selling out to the North Koreans too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 31 19:25:58 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 19:04:37 2010. No, that's not true. It's the executive compensation far more than that, as well as paying to fail. The communist resurgence in the unions helped it along, but the mess at the top was in control. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 19:49:57 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 31 16:03:24 2010. HAHA!! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 19:56:55 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 19:05:05 2010. Why can't you have a serious debate before it ends up with a bad one liner, a smily face or a picture? |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 19:57:41 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 19:07:20 2010. you still didn't answer the question?Is your voting for Prop 8 make you a conservative? |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 19:59:03 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 19:07:20 2010. Guess you want the games to begin again?I got some new info also! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 20:00:43 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 19:56:55 2010. Because a "serious debate" requires give and take, not having it your way. I am not a Burger King. Primary reason is that my mind's made up and I consider the topic to be bullshit. So what's to "debate?" I already endured four bait and switches of the original discussion as it was, I have no interest in playing rope-a-dope. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 20:03:02 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 20:00:43 2010. Then please, do not respond to any of my posts :> |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 31 20:07:39 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 20:03:02 2010. Dunno. Do you find it amusing to watch "them" twitch? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 31 20:08:37 2010, in response to A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 30 20:58:05 2010. A nice young man once wrote this at some point in our past....it certainly applies to the "discussion" here:An Act for establishing religious Freedom. Whereas, Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and therefore are a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, who being Lord, both of body and mind yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do, that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavouring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world and through all time; that to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical; that even the forcing him to support this or that teacher of his own religious persuasion is depriving him of the comfortable liberty of giving his contributions to the particular pastor, whose morals he would make his pattern, and whose powers he feels most persuasive to righteousness, and is withdrawing from the Ministry those temporary rewards, which, proceeding from an approbation of their personal conduct are an additional incitement to earnest and unremitting labours for the instruction of mankind; that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions any more than our opinions in physics or geometry, that therefore the proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence, by laying upon him an incapacity of being called to offices of trust and emolument, unless he profess or renounce this or that religious opinion, is depriving him injuriously of those privileges and advantages, to which, in common with his fellow citizens, he has a natural right, that it tends only to corrupt the principles of that very Religion it is meant to encourage, by bribing with a monopoly of worldly honours and emoluments those who will externally profess and conform to it; that though indeed, these are criminal who do not withstand such temptation, yet neither are those innocent who lay the bait in their way; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy which at once destroys all religious liberty because he being of course judge of that tendency will make his opinions the rule of judgment and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own; that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that Truth is great, and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them: Be it enacted by General Assembly that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of Religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge or affect their civil capacities. And though we well know that this Assembly elected by the people for the ordinary purposes of Legislation only, have no power to restrain the acts of succeeding Assemblies constituted with powers equal to our own, and that therefore to declare this act irrevocable would be of no effect in law; yet we are free to declare, and do declare that the rights hereby asserted, are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 31 20:21:27 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Aug 31 15:41:19 2010. On what grounds? Where is Christianity attacking Judaism? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 31 20:25:17 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 31 20:21:27 2010. "On what grounds? Where is Christianity attacking Judaism?"The fear of prosthelytizing of Christianity? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 20:32:19 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 19:59:03 2010. LOLLOL ok nando |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 20:40:05 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 31 20:21:27 2010. On what grounds? Where is Christianity attacking Judaism?Read this and become educated |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 31 20:42:18 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 20:40:05 2010. Yup. Christians are crashing planes into Forest Hills, and shooting up bar-mitzvah's.I saw a bunch of Christians on ny1 today. They are on trial for plotting to blow up a synagogue in Riverdale. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 21:22:29 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 20:32:19 2010. Fernando, thank you very much!Its a proper Spanish name unlike the very original Salaam Allah! The prisons are chock full of savages with that name! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 21:24:48 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 19:57:41 2010. No answer yet!LOL! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 21:29:11 2010, in response to A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 30 20:58:05 2010. I agree. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 21:37:45 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Americans for religious tolerance, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 31 20:08:37 2010. Oh no, the man who wrote that is a genocidal maniac and must rot in hell! |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Aug 31 21:44:47 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 01:39:22 2010. Selkirk, you ought to be aware that Dr, King was a registered Republican. This seems to have escaped most of you liberal Democrats. He never changed his registration and even though he became disillusioned with his party and their seemingly retreat from civil rights he n ever lost hope that the party of Lincoln would return to their roots and the party of freedom. Well we are the party of freedom, we are the party of emancipation, the Civil Rights Act of 1866 that gave black people citizenship, the 14th Amendement that codified that citizenship into the Constitution, the 15th Amendment that codified their right to vote, the Civil Rights Act of 1875 and many other laws that your party opposed.Now let's take a look at the Democrats. They were the party of slavery, the party of the Ku Klux Klan, the party of segregated facilities and schools in the South, the party that legalized lynching, and may I point out that these things did not end until the South became a two party region in the late 60's and 70's. As for the tragic death of Dr. King, it is a fact that he was coming very close to endorsing New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller for President in 1968 before he was assassinated. His wife Cora came out and endorsed Rockefeller soon after Dr. King's death. As far as the first black president, let's be clear about that too. It is an absolute certainly that if General Colin Powell had not refused to run in 1996 the nomination would have been his and as the polls showed he would have beaten Bill Clinton handily in that election, and, yes, would have swept the entire South as well save for Clinton's Arkansas. So let's keep things in perspective. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 21:47:03 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Americans for religious tolerance, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 31 20:08:37 2010. But of all you hated Bush for always talking about God.Now you have a president that prays everyday and nothing. Silence. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 21:53:00 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Aug 31 21:44:47 2010. Now let's take a look at the Democrats. They were the party of slavery, the party of the Ku Klux Klan, the party of segregated facilities and schools in the South, the party that legalized lynching, and may I point out that these things did not end until the South became a two party region in the late 60's and 70's.Word... Dixiecrats Dixiecrats Dixiecrats... As my father says... |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 22:04:47 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 21:22:29 2010. LOL |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Aug 31 22:07:00 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 21:53:00 2010. Dixiecrats maybe, but still Democrats. They were certainly not Republicans, and, BTW, more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act in 1964 than the Democrats did. All the opposition was pretty much centered in the then Democratic South, though I now have to embarrassingly admit that Arizonan Barry Goldwater voted against it as well and that hurt the Republican Party badly. It was a stupid ignorant vote and one that we GOPers are paying for today even though the Dems take the blacks for granted and really haven't a damn thing to help them economically. Their neighborhoods are still short of shopping centers, their kids go to rotten schools, and a few shyster leaders of the black community know that if they finally wake up they will know they've been taken for a ride. If my party wasn't so damn stupid in that regard we'd be in those neightborhoods recruiting until we were panting for breath. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 31 22:09:25 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Americans for religious tolerance, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 21:47:03 2010. difference in talking to God or talking about God. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 22:11:16 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 22:04:47 2010. I'm glad you are laughing at yourself finally! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 22:12:01 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Americans for religious tolerance, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 31 22:09:25 2010. Or getting devotionals on your Blackberry everyday!LOl! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 22:13:47 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 22:11:16 2010. no i am laughing at YOU |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 22:15:27 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 22:04:47 2010. Or John Lowry the 3rd!!Id hate to meet 1 and 2! IS that what they were? a 1 and 2? LOL LOL! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 22:18:05 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Aug 31 22:07:00 2010. Word again Fred....Sometimes its NOT about Party Lines.... |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Aug 31 22:18:23 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 31 22:13:47 2010. and I have been laughing at you for a looooong time!Like this gem when you got banned from this site and you went into Strappies and was crying! And the strappies told you to stop bitching! HA HA! |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 31 22:20:16 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 21:53:00 2010. Word...No. His saying that those things ended because the south became a two party region is completely false. The south became a two party region because Democrats fought to end those practices. The southern whites that supported segregation and discrimination are the ones that became Republicans. Nixons "southern strategy" was intended to make sure of that. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Aug 31 22:20:28 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 22:18:05 2010. Which is why the 2-party system is broken. People these days just assumes stuff about each party and votes that way than to get a better look at the candidates. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 31 22:22:10 2010, in response to Re: A List of Subchat Libs Who Think................, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 22:18:05 2010. How can you agree with that BS? Have you never been to the south? |
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