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New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 11:36:39 2010 It's actually going downWhy are Democrats so wedded to a cause that even 60% of their own kind reject? Are they that enslaved to ideology? If so, they are a danger to the Republic. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 11:53:05 2010, in response to New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 11:36:39 2010. Too bad; the masses should not have say over private property that isn't objective. They can always offer money to buy the property.However, there is something that is on topic that could stop it---namely the curvature of the tunnel between Park Place and Chambers Street---that could stop it if they insist on a new building. The rest of the country outside the USA should butt out of our local business...especially anyone in federal government. If 99 percent of the people oppose it, they should be told to get lost, this is private property. And that's on principle. (I personally support it if and only if the existing building is used.) |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Aug 31 11:58:19 2010, in response to New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 11:36:39 2010. Yes!Democrats are enslaved to the ideologies of following the constitution, and not being racist bigots! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 12:04:23 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by R30A on Tue Aug 31 11:58:19 2010. I'm not sure what constitutional right is being infringed upon when someone displays disgust at an overt act of provocation. Is the government actively preventing this mosque from being built there? If not, why are we even discussing this in constitutional terms?By all means, continue to defy the masses. Don't let me stop me from falling on your sword. Do you want your political movement buried or cremated after it's through committing suicide? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 12:50:38 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 12:04:23 2010. Or politics should be thrown out of this - it's none of their business. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 12:51:01 2010, in response to New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 11:36:39 2010. Why are Democrats so wedded to a cause that even 60% of their own kind reject? Are they that enslaved to ideology? If so, they are a danger to the Republic.Because the hardcore left HAVE to oppose this simply because if they didn't, for one issue, they would actually be on the same side as most of the right. Leftists can't tolerate or allow, at any time to actually agree with something the right agrees with. That's the simple reality of the leftists. Even the rational and moderat Democrats oppose this mosque, as the majority of Democrats oppose the mosque, just like the majority of Independents and Republicans. The leftists can't tolerate at any time agreeing with the right, so they "must" oppose. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 12:53:00 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 12:51:01 2010. Or, as is the case with me, the rest of the country should butt out...and the locals waited too late to voice their opinion, although the little issue of a subway line under the building could objectively derail it.The rest of the country wants to stick its nose into what is NYC's business...and those opposing it in NYC did it too late. It's essentially in the MTA's hands now. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 12:55:04 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 12:51:01 2010. I simply do not understand how someone can label obstinate opposition to a broad majority of Americans as supporting democracy. It's a conflict that few are willing to address in rational terms. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 12:57:57 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 12:53:00 2010. This is NOT a NYC issue, this has nothing to do with "zoning", no one deny's they have a legal right to build.But this isn't a local issue. 911 was not a NYC issue, it was a national issue. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 12:59:15 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 12:55:04 2010. It's because there are issues in America that don't involve the opinion of the majority; this is one of them. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 13:00:51 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 12:57:57 2010. I disagree on principle; each attack is an issue for the locals of each area to deal with as that area sees fit.If they want that building so badly, why didn't they buy it? It's no different from redistribution of wealth, which is what the opposition is asking for. They want something without paying for it; it doesn't work that way. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 13:11:20 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 13:00:51 2010. LOL. They don't "want that building so bad", and you know it, and they don't "want something without paying for it", so please spare us the nonsensica usual propaganda.And 911 WAS a national issue, not a NYC issue, just as much as Pearl Harbor was a national issue too, and not a Hawaiian issue. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 13:50:45 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 13:11:20 2010. But the MTA aside, they're not going to get their wish otherwise in all likelihood.Your Pearl Harbor analogy attempt is a canard; that was a military base and an attack on the military, therefore making that a national issue. I see 9/11 as three separate attacks - one on military property and two on private property (as it would happen). Like the memorial in Shanksville, the way to memorialize should be up to the locals---not the entire country. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 14:33:07 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 13:50:45 2010. An attack on the United States by foreign nationals is a national issue regardless of where the bombs fall. This is ridiculous. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 15:08:34 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 14:33:07 2010. Thank you. I am beginning to think that even responding to his nonsensical posts is a complete waste of time. 3 separate attacks. What nonsense. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 19:20:53 2010, in response to New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 11:36:39 2010. . |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 19:28:40 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 12:55:04 2010. I simply do not understand how someone can label obstinate opposition to a broad majority of Americans as supporting democracy. It's a conflict that few are willing to address in rational terms.Agreed.  
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 21:06:21 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 19:28:40 2010. You know, it's really getting friggen old of you leftists calling anyone that doesn't agree with your far leftist dogma friggen nazis. It's old man. and it's getting friggen annoying. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 31 21:10:07 2010, in response to New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 11:36:39 2010. Awesome. I was happy to read today's latest poll showing 70% of NYers are against the victory monument @ Ground Zero. There may be hope for NY. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 21:24:15 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 21:06:21 2010. Ah... you mean like "leftists?"Party on, Garth and America-haters wherever you are! :) |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Aug 31 21:53:18 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 11:53:05 2010. A81, I happen to think the Muslims can build a Mosque anywhere they want, but I also believe that in the name of calm and peace they might considere building it a little further away from a place where raw nerves are exposed every time someone thinks of 9-11. Building it near the site of the slaughter is like waving a red flag in front of a bull, but at the same time this Muslim bashing might be going a little too damn far. If there are Muslims who mean us harm they should be exposed and if possible get their asses run out of the country, but we can't paint with a one stroke brush.We all know Muslims and the one I know do not want to see me on a slab. That's where bigotry rears its ugly head. You judge people one at a time, never as a group. It seems to much easier that way; I wonder why more don't try it. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 1 00:34:15 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 21:06:21 2010. A broad majority of Germans supported his Jew-baiting, elected him and he delivered on it.A broad majority of Americans are against Park51. Let's vote for someone who will deliver on this issue. It's democracy after all. Just don't come crying because you got buyer's remorse when they come for YOU. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 1 06:11:11 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 1 00:34:15 2010. The anit-Cordoba Mosque people aren't putting human beings in ovens and starving to death in camps those they don't. It's a fuckin insult to even attempt to try and compare the two. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 1 09:16:00 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 1 06:11:11 2010. Nor are the pro-Cordoba Mosque people...within the USA, anyway. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 1 09:59:05 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 1 09:16:00 2010. And what does that have to do with leftists such as SMAZ comparing people to Nazis who were burning Human beings in ovens and starving the rest of them to death? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 1 09:59:53 2010, in response to Re: New poll shows some movement in GZ mosque support, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 1 09:59:05 2010. Meanwhile, he doesn't care about the real fascists and what they're up to. (Must be because of where they are, geographically.) |
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