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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 29 20:20:21 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 20:09:52 2010.

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What they do is quote the Ugandan minister saying that Warren says one thing in Uganda and another in the US.

If they are quoting the Ugandan PM as saying Warren said one thing in Uganda, and another in the US, how can I possibly have "made that up"? Warren wasthere, and his activities in Uganda are not what he, or you, assert them to be. Warren is very, very good at distancing himself even from his own words and acts. There IS a comprehensive report coming on Warren's support for, and involvement in, Uganda's KTG laws. As soon as I get it, you will see it here.



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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 29 20:23:01 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 20:09:52 2010.

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The article cites the NYPD as its source. I do not think the newspaper would open itself to libel charges by making up the quotations attributed. I think the top NYPD brass are making other statements either:

1) as part of the police holdback

or

2) on orders from the Mayor's office, to defuse growing tensions.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by WillD on Sun Aug 29 22:48:14 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 25 22:13:56 2010.

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Hard Core? It is apparent that he did work for an organization which, amongst other causes, does support the lower Manhattan mosque, but how are we to know he agreed with all their causes? The movie he made on US troops in Afghanistan clearly glorifies them as civilizing a group of indigenous savages. More importantly his own writings speak far louder than any of his associations, and they point to an ingrained anti-Islamic stance regardless of his views on any other issue. This is a classic case of 'In Vino, Veritas' and just another conservative addled with ridiculous dogma carrying through that doctrine the moment alcohol eroded his judgement.

Stabbings, church burnings, what's next guys? A kristallnacht-like racist siege of Muslim owned properties followed by making them wear little crescents so you can properly identify them?

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 22:52:24 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by WillD on Sun Aug 29 22:48:14 2010.

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More importantly his own writings speak far louder than any of his associations, and they point to an ingrained anti-Islamic stance regardless of his views on any other issue.

How is it that you and JayZee have seen his writings and the rest of us haven't? I think that with him being transferred to Bellevue that all signs are pointing to him being disturbed. I'm guessing that his mental state had more to do with the attack than his politics. But I guess that we'll see. I'm not one to make sweeping statements on tidbits of information.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 29 22:57:42 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 22:52:24 2010.

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They both suffer from "Selkirk Syndrome" which manifests itself by the sufferer making shit up to try to win arguments. At the current time there is no cure but those in close proximity can protect themselves by avoiding their bullshit.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by WillD on Sun Aug 29 23:01:28 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 22:52:24 2010.

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The only bits and pieces which have come out were paraphrased in the NYDN at the same time the Chrisses were spinning conspiracy theories about his being a liberal operative. Certainly I'd be more willing to believe the NYDN's unnamed source than the conspiracy theories the usual suspects around here grabbed off their conservative blog du jour. To a certain extent it's simply Occam's Razor. Is it more likely that this gentleman set out to incite violence and in doing so risk life in prison? Or is he just another rich kid with a useless degree doing some volunteer work with an organization he likely does not agree with because the job market sucks and he hates every minute of it? A little bit of alcohol would likely act as a universal solvent for whatever bulwark he'd built up trying to get his career together.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by WillD on Sun Aug 29 23:03:41 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 29 22:57:42 2010.

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Make up shit to win an argument? Has *anything* you've EVER posted come to pass or born a passing resemblance to reality? It's fine if you choose to live in a fantasy world or if your victimization complex requires the world to be one great conspiracy against your interests, but the rest of us have to make due with the real world.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 23:08:34 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by WillD on Sun Aug 29 23:01:28 2010.

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I honestly don't know what his deal is. He very well could hate Muslims, but I don't know how reliable that original NYPD source is. We don't even know if the source actually read the diary or was spreading a rumor. Based on the NYPD's current denial that there were anti-Muslim diatribes in the diary I suspect that the source was somehow mistaken.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 29 23:26:54 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 29 22:57:42 2010.

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Absolutely ... and as a republican, you should "an hero."



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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 29 23:28:59 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 23:08:34 2010.

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... or as is most often he case lately, the "source" had their own agenda and spread more bullshit "for the cause."

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Re: Muslim Slashed in Cab

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 30 00:33:37 2010, in response to Re: Muslim Slashed in Cab, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 25 14:42:46 2010.

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more importantly....you and the other bitchasses never understood much of anything..yet you always seem to have an opinion ABOUT EVERYthing!

BITCHASSNESS IS NOT ALLOWED.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 30 20:19:22 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 22:52:24 2010.

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I'm guessing that his mental state had more to do with the attack than his politics.


That's what any reasonable person would also assume, but of course leftists aren't rational, as they were all gung ho blaming this freak on the right, until a wrench was thrown into their whole thing, and he turned out to be a liberal. then of course, they have to try and come up with some other way to blame the event on the right.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 30 20:20:51 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 25 16:09:08 2010.

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Defending a religion, which if he was caught walking around some Muslim country, he would be buried in the ground up to his head and stoned to death, or hung in the public square, simply because of who he is.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 30 20:38:03 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 29 19:40:25 2010.

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Associated Press:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100826/ap_on_re_us/us_cabbie_stabbed

"Enright was carrying two notebooks that contained details of his experiences in Afghanistan but did not appear to contain any anti-Muslim rants. The journals were in a backpack along with an empty bottle of scotch, Kelly said."

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 30 20:47:41 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 30 20:19:22 2010.

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Hehe. Was he PROVEN to be a liberal? Or are you guys just pulling the same shit you accuse others of?

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 30 20:50:38 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 30 20:47:41 2010.

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Look at the guy and his background. He's no conservative.

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Re: Cab in Stabbed Terrorist

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 20:51:49 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 30 20:50:38 2010.

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Facts get ignored quickly.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 30 22:35:05 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 30 20:50:38 2010.

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That's the kind of proff only Olog could serve up.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:16:37 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 29 15:37:12 2010.

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"Enright was carrying two notebooks that contained details of his experiences in Afghanistan but did not appear to contain any anti-Muslim rants. The journals were in a backpack along with an empty bottle of scotch, Glietsch said".




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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:17:02 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 29 15:49:24 2010.

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"Enright was carrying two notebooks that contained details of his experiences in Afghanistan but did not appear to contain any anti-Muslim rants. The journals were in a backpack along with an empty bottle of scotch, Glietsch said."




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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:17:32 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 29 15:46:42 2010.

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"Enright was carrying two notebooks that contained details of his experiences in Afghanistan but did not appear to contain any anti-Muslim rants. The journals were in a backpack along with an empty bottle of scotch, Glietsch said.
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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:18:18 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 29 17:16:27 2010.

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Of course. They WANT him to be some sort of "rightist racist Lunatic" so they can blame the tea party or those against the mosque, as opposed to a liberal on the left that just got drunk.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:20:33 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 20:09:52 2010.

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I'm not at all religious, but my take is that you hate Christians because they don't support your lifestyle so you make up stuff about them.

That's absolutely correct. But what I find even stranger, is that Muslims don't support his lifestyle even more, yet he defends them. If he went to a Muslim Country (most of them), and just by simply being him walking down the street, they would bury him completely alive, except for his head, and stone him to death, or hanging him in the public square with the crowds around him cheering.


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Re: #411

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:21:35 2010, in response to Re: #411, posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 29 17:51:14 2010.

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"What's the 411?" :)

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:22:26 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 30 22:35:05 2010.

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Look at his background...he's not a "teabagger"....

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 11:23:00 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 29 20:23:01 2010.

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Or:

3) The police source is lying.

4) The author of this article is using murky evidence to advance a narrative.

Right now, there is absolutely no proof that anything like this was found in his diary, and other news organizations are going on the record as saying otherwise. The Journolist scandal pretty much proves option 4 is quite reasonable.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 12:18:09 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:20:33 2010.

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He doesn't defend Muslims in Muslim loser countries, he defends freedom of religion in the United States of America.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 12:40:36 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 12:18:09 2010.

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No religious freedom is being infringed here.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 12:47:41 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 12:18:09 2010.

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Agreed, but the hypocrisy is, he wouldn't do the same if this was a church or a synagogue, but for some reason, even though Muslims around the world are the absolute most deadly and intolerant towards gays, he will do it for them.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 12:50:54 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 12:47:41 2010.

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And I've explained why: liberals are obsessed with race and most Muslims are of a darker complexion than the Christians or Jews they encounter every day (which runs counter to the fact that are far more non-white Christians on this planet than non-white Muslims). Brown skin = victim of evil white western forces. 40 years of ideological indoctrination cannot easily be countered.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 12:54:52 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 11:23:00 2010.

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If that is the case, then the NYPD would have sued already.

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Re: #411

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 31 13:19:05 2010, in response to Re: #411, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:21:35 2010.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 13:21:54 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 12:40:36 2010.

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It isn't, because the right isn't getting their way.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 13:23:15 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 12:47:41 2010.

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A church or a synagogue would be unlikely to engender such controversy.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 13:30:23 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 13:23:15 2010.

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This is true, as they weren't responsible for 911. However, he still wouldn't back behind them in other causes either.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 14:32:03 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 13:30:23 2010.

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Well, what causes would those be? There isn't an issue with freedom of religion for churches and synagogues.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 15:33:21 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 13:21:54 2010.

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Yet.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 16:09:45 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:22:26 2010.

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Ah yes ... I keep forgetting that with conservatives, we're fully digital instad of analog ... zero or one, no grayscale. Yep ... the dewd is definitely Muslim then ... :-\

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 19:16:00 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 11:17:02 2010.

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Who's Glietsch?

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 19:19:02 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 13:30:23 2010.

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This is true, as they weren't responsible for 911.

Bush's imam was responsible for 9/11?

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 31 19:43:41 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 26 11:33:17 2010.

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Just like "Christians" who do the evil stuff aren't "Christians", hence, to label them as such, is assinine. But I'm done with responding. You may fire when ready, Gridley.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 19:46:47 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 13:23:15 2010.

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They would, if Jews or Christians had attacked the WTC.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 31 19:58:01 2010, in response to Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 29 12:06:52 2010.

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"Sharif praised New York as a city where "all color, races, all religion," live "side by side peacefully." But he said the attack had made him feel unsafe and lonely."

Yeah, huh? So, I wonder how this dude felt:

In Palm Bay, Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Rap

Joshuah Lamb, a black 14-year-old, sits in a juvenile detention center after beating up a 22-year-old white man for listening to music by rapper Gucci Mane. The attack was triggered because Lamb didn't think white people should listen to rap music. Now the local State Attorney's Office is deciding whether to charge Lamb with a hate crime.

The incident began when David McKnight, a white man, was listening to Gucci Mane's hit "Wasted," which features Fort Myers rapper Plies. McKnight was blaring the song on his boombox while Lamb was walking down the sidewalk.

"You shouldn't be listening to rap music because you're white," Lamb said, according to a police spokesperson.

McKnight replied that he could listen to whatever music he wanted. The argument escalated to a fight. That's when Lamb punched McKnight. About seven other boys eventually joined the fight.

"I couldn't get away fast enough, let's just put it that way. Then one of them spit on me, punched me, knocked me down, got a couple of kicks in from a couple of them," McKnight told WFTV news. He suffered a broken toe, a concussion, a swollen eye, and strangulation marks.

The song -- which includes lyrics such as "I don't wear tight jeans like the white boys/But I do get wasted like the white boys" and "I need more cases and Gucci not a racist/All my diamonds Caucasians" -- was a minor hit on radio, and Mane has been championed by critics across the spectrum. Even indie rock-centric Pitchfork Media gave the album on which the song appears a relatively high 8.0 rating.

It's unclear from the article how seriously the State Attorney's Office is thinking about charging Lamb with a hate crime or if WFTV is just stoking racial flames. When interviewed, McKnight said at first he wasn't sure Lamb should be charged with a hate crime, but when pushed further by the journalist interviewing him, he decided maybe the teen should be.


What, no outrage? No cries for justice? No sad commentary on our society and the behavior of the evil doer and the seven ignorant racist coward pigs what done it? Oh, wait, I forgot: vic was a cracker, probly deserved the beatdown, huh?

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 31 20:10:21 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 31 19:58:01 2010.

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No cries for justice?

perhaps because the attacker is IN PRISON!

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 20:13:02 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 31 19:43:41 2010.

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Just like "Christians" who do the evil stuff aren't "Christians", hence, to label them as such, is assinine. But I'm done with responding. You may fire when ready, Gridley.

In other words "I got nothing"...

Thanks for playing...


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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 20:25:33 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 19:46:47 2010.

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And it's also nobody's business what goes there...except for perhaps the MTA.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 21:07:39 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 20:25:33 2010.

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What the hell does the MTA have to do with it?

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 31 21:27:53 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 19:46:47 2010.

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Maybe Jews but not Christians. They'd just say that the Christians were misguided souls practicing a warped version of Christianity and that most Christians are good people. And that further a church at the attack site would show our faith and resolve against those that would twist the faith.

If Jews were responsible, then the latent antisemitism of many would just rear its ugly head.

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Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 31 22:56:52 2010, in response to Re: Stabber's Diary Filled With What?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 21:07:39 2010.

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At the risk of going on-topic---if the current building is demolished, it would affect the integrity of the subway tunnel underneath it. They are likely the ones that will kill it.

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Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 31 23:54:19 2010, in response to Re: Terrorist Stabbed in Cab, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 20:13:02 2010.

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psssshhh. i got two 19 year old females keepin' me company. whachu talkin' `bout??

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