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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 10:53:52 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 10:45:50 2010.

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According to Obama, who said so the day after Ramadan. But I wouldn't believe a word he says either.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 10:54:36 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 10:49:41 2010.

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Famous words of Steven Weinberg: "for good people to do evil things, that takes religion".
And the Muslim world is not the first to do so.
We as a nation can however not exclude our local Muslim Mosques from being build just because we have issues with a few Muslim extremist, it violates our constitution and fights what United States of America has stood for since it was created.
Are you willing to give up constitution, if so wee heading same way as Germany in mid 1930's


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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 10:54:39 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 10:48:56 2010.

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No I understood PERFECTLY, you thought by throwing in that "Saudi Arabia is an ally" of the US, somehow that would exempt them, and make a point. It failed miserably.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 10:55:05 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 10:45:50 2010.

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Neither of us have said anything bad about Muslims. there are people out there who truly mock them. Make fun of their names, traditions, dress, etc..............

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 10:58:51 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 10:54:39 2010.

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No I understood PERFECTLY, you thought by throwing in that "Saudi Arabia is an ally" of the US, somehow that would exempt them, and make a point.

No you didnt you can say what you want.

It failed miserably.

Only thing that failed is your comprehension, thats it.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 11:00:07 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 10:51:57 2010.

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wikipedia ?
here are 2007 from CIA worldfacts.

Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
and just for giggles Islam is fastest growing religion in world.
So by todays numbers it may very well be 3.75 wich was quoted from a Islamic site.



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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:01:10 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 09:58:33 2010.

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They should be wary of terrorist(s), not muslims, jews, catholic, or bud(d)hist for that matter. (T)errorist(s) can be any religion

You really are ignorant as to what Iran is, aren't you?

We know that terrorism can be of any religion or of no religion — communists used to be the biggest terrorists of the earlier 20th Century. However, there is a unique character to Islamic terrorism. Learn what it is instead of remaining in ignorance.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Scorpio7 on Tue Aug 24 11:02:13 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 10:43:13 2010.

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No, you were just their main financial backers.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 11:02:56 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 10:58:51 2010.

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No you didnt you can say what you want.

I ABSOLUTELY knew what you were trying to get at. Why do you think I was so quick to say SAUDI ARABIA. You were trying to bait, and don't say you weren't. And then when that failed and I said Saudi Arabia, you had to throw in the "an ally" of the US, as you were trying to save the bait from coming off your hook.
Failed miserably.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 11:05:43 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 11:00:07 2010.

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LOL, you don't even know what you are posting, and it's hilarious!

wikipedia ?
here are 2007 from CIA worldfacts.

Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)



Read YOUR stats from "worldfacts in 2007".....it backs up the .6 I gave, which you disputed. Thank you for proving the point, LMAO!!!



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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 11:07:41 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Scorpio7 on Tue Aug 24 11:02:13 2010.

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????????????

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:07:48 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 11:02:56 2010.

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Wrong and i was talking to Luch, he never responded to that question.

Why is that? Its not because You answered it either.

Keep reaching....

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 11:10:14 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:07:48 2010.

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Repeat question. I promise to answer it.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:12:38 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 11:10:14 2010.

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I asked you what country those animals came from that flew those planes on 9/11 .

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 11:13:11 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:12:38 2010.

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Mostly Saudi's. We should have bombed that country off the face of the earth. Another reason to hate Bush.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 11:17:35 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 11:13:11 2010.

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another ignorant statement, our religion says to turn the other cheek, not to bomb a country of face of earth.

Lets all go to church and pray the lords parayer :
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And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us."

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:19:15 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 11:13:11 2010.

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And not Iran? They're the government sponsor of 9/11.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 24 11:19:58 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 09:58:33 2010.

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Detail for us the last time a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Pagan or atheist group, or any other group affiliated with any other religion, anywhere in the world, has committed a terrorist atrocity.

This is not a personal bias.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:24:11 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 24 11:19:58 2010.

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Detail for us the last time a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Pagan or atheist group, or any other group affiliated with any other religion, anywhere in the world, has committed a terrorist atrocity.

The Slave trade??

The Holocaust????

The Serbians??

That madman in Iraq gassing his own people??

Why is he still alive is anybodys guess..



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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:26:41 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:24:11 2010.

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Why is he still alive is anybodys guess..

Scrtach that last one Typed it in the wrong window,yeah im multi-tasking..

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 11:26:57 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 24 11:19:58 2010.

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Look it up from Tamil Tigers, to Irish to Islamic and Jewis groups there is terrorism in our past.
No matter what we call it, to deny it is being a hypocrite.
As for individual searches you can do that yourself.
start with the religious wars we started in middle ages.
and continou all way to Iraq and Afganistan which we want to convert to our way of life.


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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:28:52 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 11:26:57 2010.

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Now that's all a pile of BS. Especially since there's no connection to Islamic terrorism now.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:33:58 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 11:07:41 2010.

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This one appears to be a psychopath. All IRA "nationalist" terrorists have a hard-left orientation, which indicates support from the USSR and later from hard-leftists in Europe. (Not all are strictly Marxist like the "Official IRA" and "Official Sinn Féin".)

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:34:50 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Scorpio7 on Tue Aug 24 11:02:13 2010.

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Wow, now that's the smelliest pile of BS you've dropped here. What would you know about what goes on there? Nothing.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:36:02 2010, in response to #402 "Get over 9/11", posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 08:38:56 2010.

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Oh yeah right. Then the radical Islamists in the Levant ought to get over "al Nabka", right??

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 11:43:51 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:12:38 2010.

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MUSLIM countries like Saudi Arabia, etc, and they were trained in countries like Afghanistan.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:45:58 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 11:43:51 2010.

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I asked luch.....

Remember?

What are you his spokesman?

:P

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 11:46:52 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:45:58 2010.

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He's my Imam.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 24 11:49:03 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 11:46:52 2010.

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Good for you!

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:51:40 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 11:17:35 2010.

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our religion says to turn the other cheek, not to bomb a country of face of earth

It doesn't say to allow your enemies to flourish either.

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us

That's not the actual text in the Bible. The Greek word opheilema means "debt", not "trespass", while opheiletes means "delinquent".

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 11:54:17 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:51:40 2010.

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are fucking greek ??


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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 24 12:03:45 2010, in response to #402 "Get over 9/11", posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 08:38:56 2010.

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No.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 24 12:04:50 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 24 12:03:45 2010.

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Tough!

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 24 12:07:29 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 24 12:04:50 2010.

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Fuck you.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 24 12:08:18 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 24 12:07:29 2010.

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Not...my...problem. You had your chance to voice your opposition before, and blew it (general message to the opposition). There are no do-overs.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 12:08:28 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 24 12:04:50 2010.

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People are going to lose patience with you. It's not funny anymore.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 24 12:10:53 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 12:08:28 2010.

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Not my problem. They can wallow in their own grief...or meet the $19.5M asking price to make them go away.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 12:13:09 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 24 12:10:53 2010.

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I want the mosque so Americans always associate Islam with 9/11.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 24 12:16:00 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:36:02 2010.

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"Oh yeah right. Then the radical Islamists in the Levant ought to get over "al Nabka", right?? "

That's not what he's saying here.....

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 24 12:16:54 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 24 12:03:45 2010.

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NO what? with all your free time on hand....at least a little more than that....

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 12:28:09 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 24 12:16:00 2010.

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No, it's what I'm saying. That's only one stipulation for the USA to get over 9/11. Besides, do you even know what "al Nabka" is?

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Scorpio7 on Tue Aug 24 12:42:08 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 12:28:09 2010.

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"Besides, do you even know what "al Nabka" is?"

Do you? Because I honestly have never heard of it.

I've heard of Al Nakba, yes. But Al Nabka? Please educate us!

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 24 13:12:59 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 11:26:57 2010.

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Not talking about the past, talking about the present. Every population group has committed atrocities at some point. But populations have matured, lessons have been learned. That history, and the lessons learned, is/are available to anyone on the planet, to learn about and to learn from. When is the last time an Irish group attacked a subway train? When is the last time an American owned a slave? When is the last time a Jewish group practiced suicide bombing?

In our current world, at the present time, it IS Moslem groups who are undertaking these murderous activities. What is your point? Because Americans once owned slaves, Moslem terrorist organizations should be "forgiven", or excused? We can never point out any group as being evil because at one time we were evil?

That is the logic of ignorance.


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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 24 13:17:14 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 24 13:12:59 2010.

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your ignorance is starting from beginning, and not judge entire discussion on one post.

My point is just because a few are evil why condemn the entire group.
and this does not only apply to Moslims, but any hate by individuals.
Are we all same, because of what LuchAAA is ...


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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 24 14:30:33 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:28:52 2010.

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"Now that's all a pile of BS."

Says WHO? and by what argument?

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 24 16:44:45 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 10:32:30 2010.

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Muslims make up .06% of the US population.


and they make you hide under your bed in shivering fear because of the action of a tiny fringe within that.

This guy is very happy





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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 24 16:55:53 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 10:37:16 2010.

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FALSE! The terrorism in the Six Counties came mainly for the oppresive Loyalists who were like the Ku Klux Klan. At some point, people say enough is enough and start defending themselves.

The Orange killed more innocent people than the Provos can ever imagine. At least the latter had some standards.

Look up the actual history. Don't take the word of either side, whether the murderous UK regime or that of some freak in Woodside.

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 24 17:01:37 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 24 11:07:41 2010.

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He's very correct as far as financial support for the Irish Republicans go. 90%+ of the funding came from the US. You have even contributed yourself without knowing (and I'm not talking about tax dollars). What were you doing in the 80's and 90's?

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Aug 24 17:02:39 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 24 09:45:54 2010.

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During WW1: be wary of the germans
During WW2: be wary of the Japs
During the Cold War: be wary of commies
After 9/11: be wary of Muslims

Its a phase... as Americans there's something we must be wary of... or were not American it seems, we're 1 terror attack imo from doing to Muslims or Arabic Muslims what we did to the Japanese during WW2

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Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11''

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 24 17:04:31 2010, in response to Re: #402 ''Get over 9/11'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 24 11:33:58 2010.

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You have no idea from your bunker what was going on in Queens and elsewhere in the 70's and 80's. It was a lot more than the St. Patrick's Day Parade and with official gov't blessing.

God Bless the Kennedys!!

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