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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:57:10 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 12:56:22 2010. LOL. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:59:55 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 29 08:20:42 2010. The first rap song I ever heard was this, and it's still one of my favorites: |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 13:00:33 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 01:11:19 2010. Ewww. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 29 14:27:30 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jul 29 09:03:43 2010. Did you know that Deborah Harry has been a great patron of the LGBT community her entire careeer?Well, she is bisexual, so she's not merely a "patron" (or matron). |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 29 14:30:23 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:59:55 2010. Yeah; talk about a message that everyone listened to on the radio but nobody in the targeted "community" took to heart. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 14:42:08 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:55:07 2010. Yes you are: (PS. who is "alot of people?" you and your wife? lol)------------------------------------------------------------------ The claims made in this post are a dubious, unacceptable, and tortiously false attempt to revise and rewrite the history of rap, hip hop, and American popular music. Without casting aspersions on Mr. Celentano, it is irrefutable that rap as a tradition and musical genre derives from elements based upon toasting from the island of Jamaica in the sixties, and before that, griot storytelling in Africa (a practice that spans millennia). In between these two points of reference, doo wop music in America also played a role in melding rhythmically-based spoken word with music, rhythm, and melody. There are several published works that have articulated the history of rap and hip hop, both musically and stylistically, including those by David Toop, Nelson George, Tricia Rose, and the editors from the late magazine Ego Trip. Any hint, suggestion, or statement to the contrary -- like the one in this post that attributes rap's invention to an Italian actor in the 1970s -- is absolutely and completely false, and requires this publication's editors to issue a retraction and a formal, published, and conclusive correction. K. Matthew Dames Executive Editor Copycense http://copycense.com |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 14:43:26 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:51:35 2010. The claims made in this post are a dubious, unacceptable, and tortiously false attempt to revise and rewrite the history of rap, hip hop, and American popular music.Without casting aspersions on Mr. Celentano, it is irrefutable that rap as a tradition and musical genre derives from elements based upon toasting from the island of Jamaica in the sixties, and before that, griot storytelling in Africa (a practice that spans millennia). In between these two points of reference, doo wop music in America also played a role in melding rhythmically-based spoken word with music, rhythm, and melody. There are several published works that have articulated the history of rap and hip hop, both musically and stylistically, including those by David Toop, Nelson George, Tricia Rose, and the editors from the late magazine Ego Trip. Any hint, suggestion, or statement to the contrary -- like the one in this post that attributes rap's invention to an Italian actor in the 1970s -- is absolutely and completely false, and requires this publication's editors to issue a retraction and a formal, published, and conclusive correction. K. Matthew Dames Executive Editor Copycense http://copycense.com |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 14:44:12 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:50:27 2010. The claims made in this post are a dubious, unacceptable, and tortiously false attempt to revise and rewrite the history of rap, hip hop, and American popular music.Without casting aspersions on Mr. Celentano, it is irrefutable that rap as a tradition and musical genre derives from elements based upon toasting from the island of Jamaica in the sixties, and before that, griot storytelling in Africa (a practice that spans millennia). In between these two points of reference, doo wop music in America also played a role in melding rhythmically-based spoken word with music, rhythm, and melody. There are several published works that have articulated the history of rap and hip hop, both musically and stylistically, including those by David Toop, Nelson George, Tricia Rose, and the editors from the late magazine Ego Trip. Any hint, suggestion, or statement to the contrary -- like the one in this post that attributes rap's invention to an Italian actor in the 1970s -- is absolutely and completely false, and requires this publication's editors to issue a retraction and a formal, published, and conclusive correction. K. Matthew Dames Executive Editor Copycense http://copycense.com |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 14:45:28 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:48:30 2010. Really? when did you figure that one out? lol |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 14:59:44 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 08:31:09 2010. What does this have to do with the thread? GP38's statement on those songs was wrong regardless of what I think about his stance on illegal immigrants. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:00:56 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:59:55 2010. Hip-Hop didn't reach its full potential until Rakim crashed the scene in 1987. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 15:02:15 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 10:36:12 2010. "NOT funny how you always cahnge the subject and never respond when I nail your sorry ass. "He does that ALOT and so does his buddy ChrisR16...that must have went to the same school as kids....PS 69...lol |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 15:03:40 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 10:52:07 2010. "You shouldn't talk like that here. It's not that kind of board."Oh really? since when? since when do we not hear of you and ChrisR16 talk alot about women's boobs! lol or any other female parts..lol |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 15:03:56 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 11:02:00 2010. IAWTP :) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:04:14 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:50:27 2010. They were doing rap in Queens back in the mid 1970's. This song, from 1971, was a major influence.No they were not. Hip-Hop started at various street parties in The Bronx to get crowds hyped up. The art of rapping is much more influenced by Reggae music than that song you posted. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:05:51 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:55:07 2010. The Last Poets were making songs before that one that also sounded much more Hip-Hop like. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 15:06:23 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 14:59:44 2010. What does this have to do with the thread?Likely story. Just shows how you, Osmosis Jones, act like Mr. Big Shit over the slightest thing imaginary insult, but can't say squat about blacks attacking, even murdering, Hispanics for fun. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:09:18 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 15:06:23 2010. Just shows how you, Osmosis Jones, act like Mr. Big Shit over the slightest thing imaginary insult, but can't say squat about blacks attacking, even murdering, Hispanics for fun.I never try to act like a "Mr. Big Shit". I've posted many times here before that a lot of Hispanic people from South America that I've talked to in the past feel like Black and White people are against them because of the whole employment issue. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 15:09:21 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:04:14 2010. IAWTP |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 15:17:49 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:09:18 2010. If white kids were behind the recent string of attacks against Latinos, you would be all over it. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 15:22:39 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 15:17:49 2010. "If white kids were behind the recent string of attacks against Latinos, you would be all over it."Are you saying you have reason to believe White kids tend to attack Latinos more so lately? eh?? why is that? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:43:49 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 29 14:30:23 2010. It's a great song, I'm not big on entertainers being too profound. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:44:34 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:00:56 2010. I remember shopping in Jamaica in 1982/3 and hearing this blasting from the original Wiz on 158th St. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:45:55 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:05:51 2010. How did it chart? This song was #1 just about everywhere in Western Europe in 1973. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:50:42 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 14:42:08 2010. Copycense...LOL.Let's stick to music, not law. We can debate the origins of music until the cows come home: While rap has roots that goes back decades, it does not change that this particular number is considered by many the first commercially successful modern rap song, complete with the appropriate style, performance and the aforementioned electronic sample, a pre-requisite for modern rap songs to this day. Stop being such a dick about this. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:51:37 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 14:43:26 2010. Copypasta is old and wrong. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:53:39 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 15:04:14 2010. Argh.Our two points are not mutually exclusive. Yes, hip hop developed in the Bronx AND Queens at about the same time. Developed does not mean invented. What was coming from the streets was a distinctive twist on an already existing musical genre. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 15:55:37 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:50:42 2010. "While rap has roots that goes back decades, it does not change that this particular number is considered by many the first commercially successful modern rap song, complete with the appropriate style, performance and the aforementioned electronic sample, a pre-requisite for modern rap songs to this day.Stop being such a dick about this." A dick about what ? that you're wrong? lol so if we were to follow your trail.....just how on Earth did the the music genre of hip-hip from the Italian entertainer to the streets of the Bronx where this genre really started. Do you have an answer for that? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 15:56:21 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:51:37 2010. Chris R16/R2730 is old and wrong and makes no sense at times.... |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 15:56:32 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:45:55 2010. It doesn't matter if black Americans didn't listen to it.Rap in America came from Jamaica. Everybody knows that. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 16:03:11 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:55:07 2010. We're talking RAP not HIP-HOP. 2 different things. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 16:05:13 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 15:56:32 2010. Rap in America came from Jamaica. Everybody knows that.Jamaica, Queens? As far as that video Chris R16 posted, you have to admit, for white people, only Italians could dance that good. Reminds me of our discussion about whether or not Italians are even white. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 16:09:16 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 29 14:27:30 2010. Stick yo your EU blabbering |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 16:09:39 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 29 14:27:30 2010. Stick to your EU blabbering |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 16:11:10 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 15:56:32 2010. But they probably did listen to this song. There's no denying it's infuence.Modern hip-hop does have Jamaican roots, but they were added later. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 16:13:52 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 16:09:39 2010. IAWTP |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 16:15:32 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 29 15:02:15 2010. haha |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 29 16:23:16 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:44:34 2010. I remember that The Wiz! |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 16:37:20 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 16:11:10 2010. Modern hip hop came from Jamaican sound systems in the Bronx which came from Jamaican sound systems in Jamaica. Rap and Hip Hop nothing to do with the video that you posted. Our people did invent polka if that makes you feel better. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 16:43:44 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 16:05:13 2010. Jamaica the country, not Queens.I couldn't make it through the entire video that Chris posted. It was pretty bad. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 16:48:30 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 16:43:44 2010. I barely made it though when I listened to it lol. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jul 29 16:51:26 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 28 18:25:49 2010. rofl. Apparently I didn't mean in the literal sense. But yea, who knows, they probably do. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jul 29 16:51:57 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 06:04:17 2010. Never can felons and dead people, but that didn't stop Frankin being a Senator |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 18:38:35 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jul 29 09:03:43 2010. For all the religious nuts who insist that homosexuality can be cured, Debbie is proof that it cannot. If what they say were true, everybody would have become straight after seeing her for the first time.Her very simple statement on AIDS: |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 18:50:27 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 29 08:35:13 2010. She was already kind of old in her heyday.Britney Spears' mom and Miley Cyrus' dad must have kept it a secret from them that female performers such as Debbie ever existed. Had they known, they would have killed themselves a long time ago. I'll never understand why God stopped making women like this |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 18:51:30 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 13:00:33 2010. You don't like her? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 18:53:01 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 01:11:19 2010. These photos should be able to make Mariah Carey smile. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 18:54:33 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:45:55 2010. The Last Poets have been around since the 50s or the 60s. Not sure if they were successful in the mainstream, but they're highly respected in the Hip-Hop community. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 19:14:18 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:53:39 2010. Queens wasn't really a major part in the Hip-Hop movement until Marley Marl came out in the mid-80s and popularized beat producing. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 19:18:52 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 19:14:18 2010. Oh wait, I forgot about Run-DMC and their hits in the early 80s. I overlooked them because I just personally think that those guys (in addition to LL Cool J before Mama Said Knock You Out was released) are overrated. |
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