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Vuvuzela
Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010 edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Ban the vuvuzela. Better yet, ban soccer and the vuvuzela disappears.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Dutchrailnut* on Sun Jun 13 18:42:15 2010, in response to Vuvuzela, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Ban is in works http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Vuvuzelas-might-yet-be-banned-from-World-Cup?urn=sow,247947
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Easy* on Sun Jun 13 18:44:43 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 13 18:42:15 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Might be banned. But they won't.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Dutchrailnut* on Sun Jun 13 18:47:24 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 13 18:44:43 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d There is no reason the Media can't filter out the sound of the Vuvuzela's from the Stadium sounds.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Easy* on Sun Jun 13 18:54:11 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 13 18:47:24 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's not that bad for me because I already hear the same thing when the US play Latin American teams. I don't even notice it after a few minutes. I don't find it to be especially loud on TV although the commentators (who are excellent this year!) say that it's extremely loud in person.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by monorail* on Sun Jun 13 19:06:53 2010, in response to Vuvuzela, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d why ban soccer????????????????????????? I find nothing wrong with vuvuzelas....
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SMAZ* on Sun Jun 13 20:29:14 2010, in response to Vuvuzela, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You know you want one. Personally, I don't like them because they drown out the chants and songs and regular cheering and booing.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SMAZ* on Sun Jun 13 20:32:29 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 13 18:47:24 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d There is no reason the Media can't filter out the sound of the Vuvuzela's from the Stadium sounds. Actually they are dropping the volume of it on TV. It's why they sound distant on TV. It was deafening at last year's Confederations Cup.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SMAZ* on Sun Jun 13 20:36:01 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 13 18:54:11 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d We had a guy who brought one when we watched the US-England game. It sounds cool when applied in doses (which he thankfully did). Anyway, crowd music will be better in 2014 with the Brazilian samba drums. I think the commentators are doing well. I think the officiating has been great this year (so far).
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Sun Jun 13 20:39:14 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 13 20:32:29 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Nothing like using those equalizers on the mixer board to make certain frequencies dive for the weeds. :)
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Easy* on Sun Jun 13 20:43:30 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 13 20:36:01 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d ESPN is using top notch English commentators rather than that guy that they used to use with the really strong Scottish accent. They moved him to radio this year. The fact that they have games on radio is probably a first. Speaking of Brazil, here's a thread about the cities and stadiums of the 2014 World Cup. It looks like it's going to be world class! This one unfortunately is not. Some games have only had 2/3 full stadiums. Unfortunately I can't see Brazil losing at home even though I read that they are the only world cup winners that have never won at home.
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Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Jun 13 20:53:03 2010, in response to Vuvuzela, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d There never used to be those at soccer matches. The current world cup is unwatchable, because those things make it sound like there's the world's loudest hive of bees on the prowl in the stadium.
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Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination
Posted by Easy* on Sun Jun 13 20:54:18 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 13 20:53:03 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d FYI I'm pretty sure that they use them in their rugby matches as well and South Africa is much more of a rugby nation than soccer.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Jun 13 20:58:03 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 13 20:32:29 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Distant? Still sounds like swarms of killer bees are in the stadium. They ought to pull the World Cup out of South Africa right now.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SMAZ* on Sun Jun 13 20:58:08 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 13 20:39:14 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Joe Biden was wearing earplugs at the Opening Game.
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Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Jun 13 21:00:49 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 13 20:54:18 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Worldwide, it's more associated with soccer, and lots of countries ban them. (Even Wikipoopy links them specifically to soccer in SA, citing the FIFA website as its reference.)
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Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination
Posted by Easy* on Sun Jun 13 21:02:46 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 13 21:00:49 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d But I think that they started in Mexico. They are nothing new for this side of the world. The Euros need to man up.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SMAZ* on Sun Jun 13 21:03:07 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 13 20:43:30 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d ahhh...the Maracana'. That hill in the middle of the city is weird. Yeah Brazil 2014 is going to be awesome! I hope the joint Netherlands/Belgium bid gets WC 2018. We may be in the running for 2022 but Australia may be the frontrunner. I hope we can have it in 2026 for our 250th birthday.
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Jun 13 21:08:46 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 13 18:47:24 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Gone from banning to filtering out. What do you think of Geert Wilders coming in third?
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Easy* on Sun Jun 13 21:11:35 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 13 21:03:07 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d 2022 would b perfect for LA to participate. We'll likely have a new football stadium and much of our new rail lines and perhaps part of the HSR will be completed.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Sun Jun 13 21:11:46 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 13 20:58:08 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Some jokes just write themselves. :)
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by Dutchrailnut* on Sun Jun 13 22:26:49 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 13 21:08:46 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d As long as that idiot does not finish first, its ok with me.
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Jun 13 22:36:24 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 13 22:26:49 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d So long as the moderates can keep him under wraps, yes.
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by RockParkMan* on Mon Jun 14 02:05:18 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 13 22:36:24 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Hey, scumboy, you don't have any fucking right to criticize ANY European government. If you want to bash Obama, fine but keep your dick out of foreign politics before you embarass us all with your lunatic bullshit. I'm sick and tired of defending the British Isles against the Continent. Listen to those bastards howl about us trying (against the GOP's most evil efforts) to hold British Petroleum accountable for their mess in the gulf of Mexico.
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jun 14 04:17:08 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 14 02:05:18 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You sure you're on the right thread, psycho-boy? Must be too many vuvuzelas blown in your ear. That's aside from the lies that the German media's been feeding your fragile little eggshell brain. Besides, who's criticizing Obama on this thread? Is Obama a vuvuzela?
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Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jun 14 04:53:16 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 13 21:02:46 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They did, by banning the darn thing.
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Re: Venezuela: a modern abomination
Posted by cortelyounext* on Mon Jun 14 13:49:42 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 13 21:00:49 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d FIFA is a coward...
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Re: Venezuela: a modern abomination
Posted by SMAZ* on Mon Jun 14 13:52:46 2010, in response to Re: Venezuela: a modern abomination, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Jun 14 13:49:42 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yeah, he backs a tradition from the.....90's. FIFA is a bunch of corrupt, money hungry assholes. FORZA ITALIA!!
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Re: Venezuela: a modern abomination
Posted by cortelyounext* on Mon Jun 14 14:02:40 2010, in response to Re: Venezuela: a modern abomination, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 14 13:52:46 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yeah. FIFA needed to man up instead of acting like a baby. Soccer is totally unwatchable and those here who cling to the absurd notion that somehow soccer requires athleticism beyond the ability to run around and kick a ball are denying reality. I'm through with this topic.
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Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination
Posted by bmtlines* on Mon Jun 14 14:06:28 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 13 21:02:46 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They cause permanent ear damage - a few US style lawsuits will take care of the problem!
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jun 14 16:45:27 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 14 04:17:08 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d BTW, there are plenty of German people I agree with on many issues, the subject of this thread being one of them. Hello from Germany, PLEASE, ban the vuvuzela! * * * ban ban ban, south africa worst would cup ever, hope your proud,. Good job your not good enough to qualify for 2014, can’t see africa getting the world cup again after this,. From Germany
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Mon Jun 14 17:07:37 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 14 16:45:27 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Ah ... the old "some of my best friends are ..." saw. VERY effective. :)
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jun 14 17:33:50 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 14 17:07:37 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I never claimed that the German government was my friend. You conflating government with people? Why do you think I changed the spelling of vuvuzela to the German one in the thread title? It's a tribute.
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by Newkirk Images* on Mon Jun 14 19:53:11 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 14 17:07:37 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Sounds like the Tijuana Brass been smokin' too much weed ! Bill Newkirk
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Mon Jun 14 20:41:44 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jun 14 19:53:11 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Nope ... there were no marimbas involved, guess again ... it was the All Olog Orchestra you heard. :)
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Re: Wuwusela
Posted by SMAZ* on Mon Jun 14 21:25:20 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 14 20:41:44 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d HAHA!!
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Re: Wuwusela — "A 'Global Synonym for Mood Killer'"
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jun 14 23:00:59 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 14 20:41:44 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d That's a perfect representation of the disaster going on in the World Cup, aside from your obvious lack of humor. BTW, the nasty plastic horn is causing a huge debate in German media. Der Spiegel (Bertelsmann) summarizes things across its comrades and competition (and they aren't in lockstep across conservative and liberal/leftist lines). 06/14/2010 The World from Berlin Vuvuzela a 'Global Synonym for Mood Killer' The plastic 'vuvuzela' trumpets so popular with South African football fans at the World Cup are causing considerable debate abroad. Players, officials and viewers have been critical and, after only three days, some are calling for a ban. German commentators say the debate is a sign of deeper cultural issues at play. One of the biggest controversies of the FIFA 2010 World Cup in South Africa so far focuses on the South African fans' cheerleading instrument of choice — the vuvuzela. The vuvuzela is a plastic trumpet, around a meter (about three feet) in length, that costs 20 South African rand (€2.10, $2.50) and makes a noise that has been described as everything from a giant swarm of bees to an elephant in distress to a terrific, tuneless din and "stadium tinnitus." After only three days of World Cup games, international players in South Africa are already complaining about the trumpet, which has been a regular facet at the country's football stadiums since the 1990s. Players on the French national team say the noise keeps them from sleeping — the horns start at dawn — and that they cannot hear one another while on the field. Other players, including Argentinian team captain Javier Mascherano, have echoed those complaints. And at a press conference, Portugal's superstar Cristiano Ronaldo agreed, saying: "It is difficult for anyone on the pitch to concentrate." Finally, the president of the Japanese football association called the vuvuzela noise "unbearable." Other criticisms of the vuvuzela include the fact that no other noise, like the sound of national anthems, can be heard above their drone, and that they ruin the atmosphere. Vuvuzela Complaints Spread around the World German television channels have received numerous complaints about the vuvuzela, with some viewers thinking the noise was due to a technical fault. The biggest problem for German broadcasters is that they receive the signal from another firm working in South Africa, Host Broadcast Services (HBS). A spokesperson for the French company told SPIEGEL ONLINE: "Eliminating or filtering the vuvuzela noise levels technically is not possible without affecting the whole signal." Asked whether it might help to have game commentators sitting in enclosed rooms, in order to lessen the vuvuzela noise, Dieter Gruschwitz, the head of the team at German public broadcaster ZDF responsible for World Cup broadcasts told SPIEGEL ONLINE that this would detract from the ambience. "Not transmitting the atmosphere is not an option for us," he said. Addressing calls for a vuvuzela ban in an interview with the BBC, Danny Jordaan, the head of the World Cup organizing committee in South Africa, said that the vuvuzela would only be forbidden if fans started throwing the trumpets onto the pitch. On Monday, German commentators offer mixed views of the vuvuzela noise. Plenty find it irritating, with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung describing it as "nerve-killing fanfare". But others feel the discussion about the plastic trumpets has wider implications, stressing that acceptance of the vuvuzela is also an issue of Germany's, and Europe's, tolerance of other cultures. Just as the debate over the vuvuzela is heating up, South African media are reporting that supplies of a brand of earplugs called "Vuvu-Stop" have almost sold out. The leftist Die Tageszeitung writes: Is it really appropriate to get annoyed about this fanfare now? The arguments against the vuvuzela started last year at the FIFA Confederation Cup (of 2009). They culminated in a demand to ban the tubular plastic instruments, and fast. But FIFA chief Sepp Blatter decreed that that the traditional instruments of South African football would be tolerated. He didn't want to alienate the hosts. Critics are far overestimating the affects of this concerto on the game. No team will lose just because 80,000 fans are making a lot of noise. If the television audience feels violated, they can just turn the sound down. The only reproach with any kind of validity is that the vuvuzela has become so popular because of commercial pressures. The brand "Vuvuzela" has long been trademarked, and in Cape Town and in Germany, hundreds of thousands of the noisemakers have been produced by the company Masincedane Sport. The conservative daily Die Welt writes: Let's not kid ourselves. Of course the ongoing trumpeting of the vuvuzelas in South Africa's stadiums gets on your nerves. It has only been three days but it seems that many foreigners are already sick of one of the elementary components of South African football-fan culture. Will the South Africans give in (to a suggested vuvuzela ban)? They should not. At the very least because this problem had already been acknowledged. Over a year ago, the FIFA Confederation Cup was held in this same place ... with eyes wide open, the international governing body of football FIFA decided against banning the noisemakers. Banning the trumpets now would be the worst signal that FIFA could send to the organizers. Anyone who gives South Africa the World Cup to host and then raves about the vitality and enthusiasm of the place must also live with the consequences. If the special atmosphere in this location is sacrificed to the intolerance of those who are annoyed by the vuvuzela, that would mean that future football World Cups would also have to function according to European tastes. Vuvuzelas belong to South African football like battle songs belong to German games. We should accept this. The center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes: There is music in football. The game has spawned its own choirs, hymns, coloraturas and celebratory calls. It's just a pity that, at the moment, we are not hearing any of these atmospheric sounds. Vuvuzela: The word has quickly become a global synonym for "mood killer." Everything else is drowned out. Suffering through 90 minutes of a vuvuzela concert (during a game) is something of an achievement. The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes: At the start of the football World Cup it was supposed to be the buzzing of swarms of bees, the trumpeting of elephants and the clamor of life in South Africa that would make this competition — aurally at least — a whole new experience. The horns blown by fans, known as vuvuzela, were to be a symbol of the World Cup in South Africa … a sign of the joie de vivre on the Cape. The football tournament is now three days old. The usual discussions about teams, tactics and goals are taking place — but there is also an astonishing debate developing about the trumpets on the terraces. The bees have become angry wasps and the elephantine trumpeting in the stadium does not seem so friendly anymore — instead it is an aggressive advance into the living rooms of those watching the game at home. Cathrin Schaer — with wires
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Re: Wuwusela — ''A 'Global Synonym for Mood Killer'''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 14 23:09:26 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela — "A 'Global Synonym for Mood Killer'", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 14 23:00:59 2010.

Gee ... THANKS for the inspiration! Several others thought it was funny as all hell. :)

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Re: Wuwusela — ''A 'Global Synonym for Mood Killer'''
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jun 15 00:16:53 2010, in response to Re: Wuwusela — ''A 'Global Synonym for Mood Killer''', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 14 23:09:26 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Newspapers would pick up on that, if it weren't in the NSFW category. Real life has to suffice.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by cortelyounext* on Tue Jun 15 10:07:47 2010, in response to Vuvuzela, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The BBC Gets It
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jun 15 11:05:35 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by monorail on Sun Jun 13 19:06:53 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I find nothing wrong with vuvuzelas Imagine each individual bee buzzing in your ear at 131 dB for six hours straight. That's what's wrong with vuvuzelas.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Tue Jun 15 15:12:39 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 15 11:05:35 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yaknow? Looks like the answer to your dreams has been revealed this week on OT. Gather up your sympathetic OT'ers, grab some vuvuzelas, get on a Lufthansa, head to Berlin and defeat the Hessians! Win-win! :)
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Re: Stadium Horn are hazardous to your health
Posted by bmtlines* on Tue Jun 15 15:52:24 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela: a modern abomination, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 13 20:53:03 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They should be banned for health reasons: 1. They spread diseases 2. They cause permanent hearing damage 3. They may cause people to miss emergency announcements
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jun 15 19:20:32 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 15 15:12:39 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Too late. Some entrepreneurs beat me to it. However, they make them about 20 dB quieter, and are thinking of marketing them at Formula 1 events, where the noise doesn't matter as much . . . The Local (with some rather NSFW comments below the article) Vuvuzela resellers eye World Cup gold in Europe Published: 15 Jun 10 09:41 CET Many World Cup fans might despise South Africa's noisy vuvuzelas, but two German entrepreneurs with the resale rights for Europe hope the plastic fan horns will become the sound of success. Cherished by South African football fans, the one-meter-long plastic trumpet produces a drone like a giant swarm of bees when thousands are played at once, sparking a growing backlash from broadcasters, fans and even some players. But Frank Urbas and Gerd Kehrberg, who acquired the resale rights for the European Union from the vuvuzela's South African maker Masincedane Sport in March last year, are betting business will be brisk despite the controversy. Today's Vuvuzelas are a modern spin-off of traditional instruments made from spiraling kudu horns — kudus are a kind of antelope. Several million of them have been produced in Germany, which makes up 90 percent of all sales in Europe, says Urbas. Most are sold to petrol stations, supermarkets or to businesses who hand them out as client freebies. Asked about the venture's profits, Urbas said: "We have nothing to complain about." World Cup organizers Monday denied they were mulling a ban on the deafening horns, as the chairman of the South African organizing committee had appeared to suggest. They insisted the vuvuzela was a symbol of the tournament. A recent survey found the sound emitted by a vuvuzela could reach 127 decibels — louder than a drum's 122 decibels, or a referee's whistle at 121.8 decibels. In Germany, the horns have been banned from a number of open-air football events in Berlin, Bavaria, Dortmund, and Gelsenkirchen, with media printing warnings of their potential to cause hearing damage. But on Sunday, vuvuzelas striped in the red, black and gold of the national flag, were still seen dotting streets in Germany as fans blared out their approval to their side's decisive 4-0 victory over Australia. South African manufacturer Masincedane Sport bowed to the row over the noise levels of the horn on Monday, saying it had come up with a quieter version which will pump out 20 decibels less. Urbas also says the German-made vuvuzela, which dismantles into three parts "so that it cannot be used in a fight" is some 20 decibels quieter than the regular South African version. A former manager of Germany's Oberhausen second division squad, Kehrberg says he spotted the business opportunity back in 2007. "As far as we are concerned, the vuvuzela as a product is inextricably linked to the World Cup," Urbas added. But he did not rule out the chance of a second life in Europe for the controversial horn. "Maybe the vuvuzela could work for sports that are already very noisy, like Formula One racing," he mused.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SMAZ* on Mon Jul 5 23:13:48 2010, in response to Vuvuzela, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Major international events say no to vuvuzela By Ryan Bailey Vuvuzelas may have augmented every single World Cup match with a horrific angry-beehive symphony, but the "musical" symbol of South African soccer is still loved by far too many people. Chinese factories have stepped up the productivity of their miserable and underpaid workforce to keep up with demand, and the plastic horn has started to appear at sporting events outside of the World Cup-hosting nation. Spectators and players at a recent Florida Marlins baseball game, for example, had to put up with the irritation of 15,000 vuvuzelas, in addition to tolerating the general boredom of actually watching baseball. The vuvu may have found its way to the Sunshine State, but thankfully, the international spread of noise pollution is being halted by the organizers of several forthcoming major events. First up is the Pamplona bull run -- the annual festival where Spaniards temporarily resists the innate urge to stick huge swords in defenseless bulls, instead letting them chase locals through the streets of the Navarre city. AFP via Yahoo! reports on the vuvu ban imposed by Pamplona authorities: "The municipality has banned the sale of vuvuzelas in the stands set up for the San Fermin festival, due to the noise disturbance they produce," the mayor of the northern town said in a statement. The trumpets would produce "unpleasant and dangerous noise for neighbours," the mayor said. It seems odd to be concerned about danger at an event where angry bulls try to kill people in the streets, but clearly the deafening din is not welcome. Meanwhile, Reuters quotes London 2012 Olympic bid chief Sebastian Coe taking a similarly dim view towards the vuvuzela: "I'm a libertarian on these issues but Olympic sport is very particular and you wouldn't want anything to trespass on that extraordinary theatre that takes place in the five or six minutes before the 100 metres final. "It is the silence and expectation that defines that moment and it's very clear most Olympic sports demand very different approaches from spectators." One would hope that the novelty of the vuvuzela will wear off soon after the World Cup finishes, but there's still a chance they may find their way into European stadia at the beginning of the 2010-11 season. It will be annoying, but it might be worth it to see Patrice Evra suffer Vietnam veteran-style flashbacks on the opening day of the Premier League season...
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jul 5 23:30:48 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 5 23:13:48 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They're spreading like Africanized honeybees, is that the gist?
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by Grand Concourse* on Mon Jul 5 23:44:18 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 5 23:30:48 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d lol. Maybe the World Cup should put a ban on South Africa the next time they come up on the list of host cities if they still have it? I mean I don't watch any of the games [other than the news highlights] and those damn vuvuzela things are annoying.
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UEFA Bans The Vuvuzela
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Sep 1 16:58:16 2010, in response to Vuvuzela, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They're doing it to "protect Europe's football culture" though, not for the more practical reasons. Deutsche Welle Soccer \| 01.09.2010 Vuvuzelas banned to protect Europe's football culture After the 'auditory horror' of the World Cup, UEFA has banned vuvuzelas, reasserting the European soccer-going customs of screaming, chanting, singing and drinking. Vuvuzelas, the ruling body says, are just noisy. Vuvuzelas have no place at European soccer matches, according to the Union of European Football Associations (UEFA), which ruled Wednesday to outlaw the loud plastic trumpets that featured at this year's World Cup in South Africa. The UEFA told its 53 member federations that the vuvuzela "may not be brought into stadiums at matches in UEFA competitions" in an effort "to protect the culture and tradition of football in Europe — singing, chanting, etc." While the UEFA did concede that "in the specific context of South Africa, the vuvuzela adds a touch of local flavor and folklore," it said that "the magic of football consists of the two-way exchange of emotions between the pitch and the stands. UEFA is of the view that the vuvuzelas would completely change the atmosphere, drowning supporter emotions and detracting from the experience of the game." The decision appears largely rhetorical as vuvuzelas have shown little sign of becoming popular in Europe during the opening weeks of the new football season. Vuvuzela-free Olympics The monotonous drone of the plastic horns drowned out spectators' cheers at the South Africa World Cup and flooded European cities via live televised broadcasts. Some television networks used vuvuzela filters for their World Cup transmissions, while a number of European clubs have already imposed vuvuzela bans in stadiums. Sebastian Coe, head of the upcoming Summer Olympic Games in London, has already said he does not want to see vuvuzelas at any event in 2012. Author: David Levitz (AFP/dpa/Reuters) Editor: Martin Kuebler
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Posted by R36 #9346* on Wed Sep 1 20:37:39 2010, in response to Vuvuzela, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 13 18:36:52 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d For the USA v. Brazil game I went to a while back, there were signs placed at the entrance gates.
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Re: Vuvuzela
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Sep 1 20:41:38 2010, in response to Re: Vuvuzela, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Sep 1 20:37:39 2010.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Stricty enforced by UN black helicopters! :)
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