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Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 15:17:27 2010

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255858/Neglected-lazy-nurses-Kane-Gorny-22-dying-thirst-rang-police-beg-water.html

Pass the coffee!

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 15:30:54 2010, in response to Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 15:17:27 2010.

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http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/132646.php

Pass the borscht!

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Mar 9 17:41:41 2010, in response to Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 15:17:27 2010.

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Englands best childrens hospital doesn't have the problem. They get to wash in buckets.
Old people don't have this problem, they're laying in their own fluids in the closets.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 17:51:22 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 15:30:54 2010.

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Solution: get more children covered by insurance!

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 18:33:57 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 17:51:22 2010.

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But that'd be socialized medicine!

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 9 18:35:26 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 18:33:57 2010.

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how many die here in the USA ?

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 18:41:33 2010, in response to Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 15:17:27 2010.

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I really don't need to hear about this since I just got out of the hospital last week. I didn't have the same problem with my nurses. But my roommate was always saying: "You never cross up the nurses".
I guess this was a prime example of it.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 18:45:34 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 9 18:35:26 2010.

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Quite a few ... but as we've all learned private-sector death panels are fine, it's voting for them that's wrong.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 19:05:16 2010, in response to Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 15:17:27 2010.

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Yeah, nobody ever dies of mistakes in US hospitals.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 19:08:21 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 19:05:16 2010.

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And if there are any,
it was caused by another doctor or nurse.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:17:13 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 19:05:16 2010.

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This is not an isolated incident at that hospital:

The tragedy emerged a week after a report into hundreds of deaths at Stafford Hospital revealed the appalling quality of care given by many of the nurses.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255858/Neglected-lazy-nurses-Kane-Gorny-22-dying-thirst-rang-police-beg-water.html#ixzz0hjD7Zivp


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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 19:39:08 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 18:33:57 2010.

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No, that's the destruction of health insurance.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 19:40:07 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 18:45:34 2010.

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If the HIP death panel sentences me to death, I can always go to GHI or Wellpoint. If the government does the same, what do I do.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 19:52:41 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 19:40:07 2010.

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TRUST me on this ... if HIP pronounces you as "life not worth living" you can take your "pre-existing condition" anywhere you want. They'll ALL refuse to cover you. That's the problem.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 9 20:00:14 2010, in response to Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 15:17:27 2010.

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Thought BUPA was supposed to save people from this kind of thing happening to them . . . ?

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 20:05:09 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 19:52:41 2010.

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They'll ALL refuse to cover you. That's the problem.

I'd like to have the opportunity to be repeatedly turned down, not sentenced to death with no recourse.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 20:19:39 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 9 20:00:14 2010.

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Looks like someone BUPAed in the hospital.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:35:32 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 19:40:07 2010.

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Good luck with a pre-existing condition.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:36:14 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 20:05:09 2010.

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So you like to spend your last few months filling out forms in a vain attempt to stave off certain death?

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:38:36 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Mar 9 17:41:41 2010.

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They're laying what in their own fluids?

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 9 20:45:52 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:38:36 2010.

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You'll have to go in the closets to find out.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 20:56:37 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 20:05:09 2010.

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Here ya go ... try these guys ...



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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 9 21:14:48 2010, in response to Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 15:17:27 2010.

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That's not the result of socialized medicine; that's the result of incompetency if true and heartless nurses...which can be found in Any Hospital, USA. My mother, who is a nurse, knows this all too well.

But to claim that it's the result of socialized medicine is wrong.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 9 21:15:37 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:17:13 2010.

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Which makes one wonder why those nurses still have their licenses.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Mar 9 21:17:44 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 19:40:07 2010.

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I guess you believe everything Sarah Palin says dont you?

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Mar 9 21:18:37 2010, in response to Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 15:17:27 2010.

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I guess you have short term memory... forgot the incident with the lady who died at Kings County Hospital... or you trying to make a rather terrible point about socialized medicine? A bad hospital staff is a bad hospital staff no matter what type of system is in place.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 21:29:29 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 9 21:14:48 2010.

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As more of the bullshit is exposed, the harder it is for them to come up with excuses.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 21:34:34 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 21:29:29 2010.

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But they'll try their best to come up with excuses and scapegoats.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 21:36:11 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 9 21:15:37 2010.

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Shortage of replacement nurses and a matter of tenure for the nurses involved.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 21:39:26 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 21:34:34 2010.

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Well ... I'm waiting for the Australian rules one where a dingo ate their baby at a maternity hospital ... stay tuned! ;)

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 21:41:26 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 21:39:26 2010.

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If that is brought up in a British court, it'll likely be thrown out because it happened in a different juristation.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 22:49:14 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 19:40:07 2010.

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There is no govt. death panel.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 22:52:26 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:17:13 2010.

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Stafford Hospital is a different hospital.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 22:53:04 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 19:40:07 2010.

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There is no govt. death panel.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 23:14:06 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 22:52:26 2010.

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How is Stafford a different hospital?
That question will be brought up in court.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 23:58:35 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 23:14:06 2010.

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"Sources say they are investigating the possibility of a corporate manslaughter charge against St George's Hospital in Tooting, South London."

"The tragedy emerged a week after a report into hundreds of deaths at Stafford Hospital revealed the appalling quality of care given by many of the nurses."


St. George's is not Stafford Hospital - that refers to a different incident.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Mar 10 00:02:31 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 9 23:58:35 2010.

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I hope it's not from the same pool of nurses.
Something like this will reflect badly on all nurses.

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 10 07:19:06 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Mar 9 21:18:37 2010.

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I guess you have short term memory... forgot the incident with the lady who died at Kings County Hospital...

Yes, a city/state/government owned hospital...great care they got there!

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Mar 10 12:08:45 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 10 07:19:06 2010.

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Want me to give you a full list of people who died at private hospitals too? It's not whether it's a city/state hospital but whether rules and procedures are being followed and if staff is trained properly. To make a case against health care out these examples is not only 100% wrong but also sub human because thr type of hospital it was isn't the factor that lead to the death it was poor training and ignoring if the rules and procedures and that can happen at any hospital

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Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Mar 10 12:13:49 2010, in response to Re: Socialized paradise: Man dies of thirst in British hospital, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 10 07:19:06 2010.

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That could happen at any hospital, USA.

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