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“Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state"

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 15:39:21 2010

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http://socialistworker.org/2009/08/06/the-story-of-medicare

Now, back in 1927, an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism, the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program...

One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project...Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it.


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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 19:37:40 2010, in response to “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state", posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 15:39:21 2010.

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You wanna repeal Medicare, I see.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 8 19:43:41 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 19:37:40 2010.

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You like diversionary arguments, I see.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 8 19:46:13 2010, in response to “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state", posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 15:39:21 2010.

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Go figger. Socialists equating socialism and statism.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 19:53:12 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 8 19:43:41 2010.

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This whole hoohah is the SAME cast of characters, yaknow ...

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 20:12:37 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 8 19:43:41 2010.

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Why diversionary?
Repealing Medicare is the logical conclusion of arguments that health care reform = socialized medicine.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 20:34:29 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 20:12:37 2010.

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... and exactly the same arguments made by the usual suspects back then. How's that commie medicine working out for ya? :)

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 21:11:46 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 19:53:12 2010.

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Then you agree that the leftist blogs were trying to manufacture a ridiculous story on Palin that wasn't there.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 21:31:44 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 21:11:46 2010.

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Don't know ... don't read them, don't care. But if there's a good Palin joke to be had, I'll go for it. :)

As far as the post you responded to, the "cast of characters" is once again those fine insurance companies, the same ones that said MEDICARE would be all death panels, commie medicine and all the same old crap we're being spoonfed again. I *love* hearing "keep government off my medicare" ... proves that IQ's can be unsigned integers.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 21:34:54 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 21:31:44 2010.

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Aw qwap! Blew my own joke ... last line *should* have read "proves that IQ's are no longer unsigned integers" ...

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 8 21:54:36 2010, in response to “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state", posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 15:39:21 2010.

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So what exactly is socialist about private medical insurance? That's what reform will do.....mandate everyone give these greedy corporations their money. They are all about their profit, and only about their profit. They could give a hang about your health. This corporatist (read: republican) model is as far from from socialism as the earth is from Pluto.

They are just a private death panel. You're still dead. With private insurance there's the bills you leave behind for your loved ones to pay. They're waiting to collect......

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 22:30:43 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 20:34:29 2010.

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Yes - in high school back then, the debate topic was Medicare - pro or con. The con arguments were exactly the same as today -- and just as bogus.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 22:35:13 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 22:30:43 2010.

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The thing that amazes me most about these wrong wingers is that they just cannot correlate how much all those people going to the emergency room with bad colds and toothaches are costing them. :-\

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 22:36:00 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 22:35:13 2010.

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They never were good at math.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 22:37:17 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 22:36:00 2010.

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Cue the "57 states" retort. :)

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 22:39:43 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 22:37:17 2010.

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Heh. . slip of the tongue vs. slip of the mind.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 22:47:21 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 22:39:43 2010.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 8 23:02:52 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 22:30:43 2010.

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How were they bogus? The state of Medicare seems to indicate otherwise.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 8 23:03:34 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 8 19:53:12 2010.

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Never said it didn't.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 05:01:58 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 19:37:40 2010.

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I wish I could.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by docstox on Tue Mar 9 05:40:42 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 8 22:30:43 2010.

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Heh, in the days I was being taxed for Medicaire,I was totally against it.Now, I will be on it in five years.I am totally for it.It's an age thing.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by docstox on Tue Mar 9 05:52:00 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 05:01:58 2010.

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Not me.I paid into the Ponzi Scheme for 30 years and now I want in before it collpases,LOL!

You young suckers will have to pay while I live until 90.

Death squads, anyone?LOL!

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 11:01:37 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by docstox on Tue Mar 9 05:40:42 2010.

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Good for you. When my son is 65, there will be no money for him. Why? Because we don't have the guts to make the necessary changes now.

Unless we adopt my plan, which is to kill all baby boomers.

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 9 11:39:06 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 11:01:37 2010.

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Necessary changes include not misappropriating Medicare money, which was in surplus on January 19, 2001 for unnecessary tax cuts, unfunded wars and mandates.

If we kill anyone, make it those responsible for tossing our money under the bus first. It WAS there, if invested then it would still be here now (A President Gore had that as the highest priority, mocked as he was for it). What became of it?

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Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 9 16:41:36 2010, in response to Re: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 9 11:01:37 2010.

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Don't mess with a generation that already knows how to fly a plane. :)

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