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Re: Palmgate?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 13 12:36:47 2010, in response to Re: Palmgate?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 13 12:34:01 2010.

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Uh, who says it isn't a legit pollster? Zogby, now THAT's not a legit pollster.

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Re: Palmgate?

Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 13 12:37:46 2010, in response to Re: Palmgate?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 13 12:34:01 2010.

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I don't consult polls to determine what my opinion is.

I thought that President Obama's speech was substantively a joke (which is the norm for such addresses, to be sure), but that it was nonetheless a decent, possibly good, performance.

As for what other people thought, that's up to them.

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Re: Palmgate?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 13 13:13:52 2010, in response to Re: Palmgate?, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 13 12:36:47 2010.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31047.html

I only point this out because Rasmussen actually had a result beneficial to Democrats in the days after the SOTU. I am not actually agreeing with those who criticize Rasmussen.

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Re: Palmgate?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 13 13:15:30 2010, in response to Re: Palmgate?, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 13 12:37:46 2010.

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I don't consult polls to determine what my opinion is.

But your opinion has to be based on something tangible. How else can you measure the effectiveness of a presidential address?

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Re: Palmgate?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 13 13:18:29 2010, in response to Re: Palmgate?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 13 13:15:30 2010.

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By how it came across to you.

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Re: Palmgate?

Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 13 13:24:19 2010, in response to Re: Palmgate?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 13 13:15:30 2010.

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But your opinion has to be based on something tangible. How else can you measure the effectiveness of a presidential address?

Why am I interested in the effectiveness of the speech? I said that it's substantively pretty much hollow, but good delivery. That's my opinion.

I doubt that you're seriously suggesting that in order to find out what my opinion is about something, I need to ask other people what their opinion is?

I watched the speech, I read the transcript, I formed an opinion. It's like going to the movies, only cheaper and with less special effects. E.g., I doubt that you're going to change your opinion of 'Avatar' no matter what other people think.


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Re: Palmgate?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 13 22:29:49 2010, in response to Re: Palmgate?, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 13 13:24:19 2010.

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But he based his opinion of Avatar based on what other people thought. IINM, he's never actually seen it.

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Re: Palmgate?

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 22:34:01 2010, in response to Re: Palmgate?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 13 22:29:49 2010.

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He seems like the type that would criticize it while acknowledging that he would never see it. Like he does with Michael Moore movies.

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