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GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:01:49 2009 Republicans argue that tax cuts should have been financed by borrowing.House votes to extend $31B in expiring tax breaks By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON – The House voted Wednesday to extend $31 billion in popular tax breaks, including an income tax deduction for sales and property taxes, to be financed with a tax increase on investment fund managers and a crackdown on international tax cheats. The 45 tax deductions and credits for businesses and individuals are scheduled to expire at year's end. The House voted 241-181 to extend them for a year, with only two Republicans voting in favor. The bill now goes to the Senate, which has rejected the tax increase on investment managers in the past. The tax breaks include a sales tax deduction that mainly helps people in the nine states without local income taxes, a property tax deduction for people who don't itemize and lucrative credits that help businesses finance research and development. The nine states without a state income tax are Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Texas, Tennessee, Washington and Wyoming. The tax breaks are supported by Democrats and Republicans alike and are routinely extended each year, but there are big disagreements over the tax increases that would pay for them. The dispute, combined with the Senate's prolonged debate on health care, makes it unclear whether the tax package will be enacted this year. Lawmakers could retroactively pass the package early next year, but that would make tax planning difficult. The House bill would raise $24.6 billion over the next decade from the tax increase on investment fund managers. It would affect hedge fund and private equity managers, as well as the more than 1.2 million real estate investment partnerships, according to the Real Estate Roundtable. The House bill would raise an additional $7.7 billion from a crackdown on international tax cheats, an issue the Internal Revenue Service and the Obama administration have embraced. Investment managers typically get a fee to manage funds or assets. They also get a share of the profits earned for investors above a certain level. Under current law, the profit-sharing fees, called carried interest, are taxed as capital gains, with a top rate of 15 percent. The House bill would tax the fees as regular income, with a top tax rate of 35 percent, scheduled to rise to 39.6 percent in 2011. President Barack Obama supports the tax package, including the tax increase on investment managers and the crackdown on international tax havens. Democrats argued in favor of the tax increase, saying Wall Street financiers shouldn't be taxed at a lower rate than workers making less money. "Those who invest their own money will continue to receive capital gains tax treatment," said Rep. Sander Levin, D-Mich. "Those who manage other people's money will have to pay ordinary income tax, like everybody else who performs services." The two Republicans who voted in favor of the bill were Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao of Louisiana and Rep. Walter Jones of North Carolina. Most Republicans argued that the tax increase would reach far beyond Wall Street, hitting real estate investment funds across the country. Instead, Republicans said, the tax breaks should be financed by federal borrowing, increasing the budget deficit. "It is nothing short of a new tax on the very investments needed to start a new business and create economic growth in this country," said Rep. Dave Camp of Michigan, the top Republican on the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee. Investment groups argued that the tax on fund managers would discourage investment. "Raising taxes on growth investments by private equity, real estate and many other partnerships just doesn't make sense, particularly in this time of fragile economic recovery and continuing joblessness," said Douglas Lowenstein, president of the Private Equity Council. A coalition of real estate organizations argued that the tax increase would hurt real estate partnerships, further eroding property values just as they are starting to rebound. "Why would you want to put a $24.6 billion tax increase on this industry now, especially when it is having all these problems?" said David Pearce, vice president and counsel of the Real Estate Roundtable. The crackdown on tax havens would impose new reporting requirements on foreign financial institutions doing business in the United States and on American advisers who help U.S. residents make investments overseas. Foreign firms that don't comply would be hit with a 30 percent withholding tax on income from their U.S. assets. Lawmakers have been working for years on proposals to stop tax cheats from hiding assets overseas, and the Obama administration has pushed the issue as well. Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., said tax cheats have a patriotic duty to come clean. "I think that asking tax evaders to pay their fair share for the national defense is not an unreasonable request," said Neal, a top Democrat on the Ways and Means Committee. ___ |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 10 04:11:58 2009, in response to GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D, posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:01:49 2009. Ahem; it's bipartisan. (The Dems are just as enamored of borrowing as Republicans, so you get a double whammy with them.) And "real people"? Nice dehumanizing tactic; learned that from the fascists?
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Re: GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 10 04:13:05 2009, in response to GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D, posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:01:49 2009. Heh. Now THERE'S news. :(If they just wanted Obama to fail, then why are they pissing on US? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 10 04:18:27 2009, in response to Re: GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 10 04:13:05 2009. No . . . ask yourself why the Dems are acting just like the terrible "GOP". Even the Germans called the president "George W. Obama" last summer and not a complaint from yourself . . . |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:43:28 2009, in response to Dems Side With Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats Too, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 10 04:11:58 2009. . |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:44:53 2009, in response to Re:, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 10 04:18:27 2009. . |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 10 04:49:48 2009, in response to Re: [subject line removed just for the hell of it], posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:43:28 2009. Fixed. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 10 04:51:00 2009, in response to Re: [0% APR! NO MONEY DOWN! LIMITED TIME ONLY!], posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:44:53 2009. Heh. No WONDER I missed it before ... ah well ... if there was a topic, I might have answered it. Nah. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 10 12:42:45 2009, in response to Re:, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 10 04:18:27 2009. All borrowing money for tax cuts does is enrich WallSt. After all, they're the ones doing the lending and collecting the interest. We've done more than enough corporate welfare. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 10 14:52:08 2009, in response to Re:, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 10 12:42:45 2009. All borrowing money for tax cuts does is enrich WallStNo, it enriches China. Wall Street goes broke pretty quick under that scenario. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 10 16:55:11 2009, in response to Re:, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 10 14:52:08 2009. Last I looked, Goldman isn't owned by the Chinese. Yet. |
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Re: GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 10 17:02:56 2009, in response to GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D, posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:01:49 2009. You mean the GOP has been nominated to Barry's Cabinet and White House?Or do you mean the GOP dissolved and became democrats? Or are you saying Dodd and Biden joined the GOP and AGAIN okey'd massive bonuses? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 10 19:23:34 2009, in response to GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D, posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 10 04:01:49 2009. Instead, Republicans said, the tax breaks should be financed by federal borrowing, increasing the budget deficit.As a Democratic toadie, you are in no position to attack GOP proposals which increase the deficit: 
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 10 21:58:42 2009, in response to Re: GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 10 19:23:34 2009. That's Bush's flophouse there ... |
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Re: GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 11 11:46:24 2009, in response to Re: GOP Takes Side Of Wall St Financiers, Tax Cheats And Votes Against Tax Cuts for Real People and R&D, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 10 19:23:34 2009. Ummm...the 2009 figure is Bush's budget. |
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