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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 17 08:45:35 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 17:13:03 2009.

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Still haven't found anything to match Obama's very low bow. Fail . . . and partisan post (you had to say "GOP", didn't you)

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Re: The Bowing

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 17 08:48:15 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 16 16:21:58 2009.

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What's with the partisan post? You love divisiveness, don't you.

Yes, it's true that liberal presidents have bowed to certain degrees, but none with as acute an angle as our current president.

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 17 08:54:34 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 17 08:45:15 2009.

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None of them come even slightly close....and Obama did it TWICE.
Remember the lies the corrupt White House came up with last time Obama did this with the King of Saudi Arabia?

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Re: The Bowing

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 17 09:11:52 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 16 22:50:50 2009.

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A cornucopia of same, seemingly. Not a shred of hope in there, but lots of desperation . . .

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 17 10:20:27 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 17:13:03 2009.

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LOL, so the dopes now gotta say "So what, Obama bowed LOWER".

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Bowing - They All Do It

Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 17 10:23:17 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 17 08:48:15 2009.

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A bow either occurs or it doesn't. There's not a scale of magnitude to it.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 17 12:43:02 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 16 17:35:43 2009.

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It is. If you check out Google's traffic, you'd note that liberals have been trying (in vain) to find a picture of Bush doing the same thing.

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 15:24:03 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 17 08:54:34 2009.

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So? What's the big deal? (Other than criticizing all-Obama all-the-time.)

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 15:26:18 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 17 08:45:35 2009.

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You're a boom,
You're the dam at Boulder,
You're the moon,
Over Mae West's shoulder,
I'm the nominee of the G.O.P.

Or Gop!

But if, baby, I'm the bottom,
You're the top!


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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 17 15:26:30 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 15:24:03 2009.

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The White House made up lies last time to cover it up. That's bad enough. It it wasn't so terrible, why did they make up the ludicrous excuse they made last time? They would have just said, okay it was a bow, big deal.
Actions are bad, but lies about actions are much worse.

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 15:31:58 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 17 12:43:02 2009.

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Selk posted several . . .

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 15:38:29 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 17 15:26:30 2009.

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MUCH ado about nothing.

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 17 15:40:58 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 15:31:58 2009.

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They have already been dismissed.

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 15:42:29 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 17 15:40:58 2009.

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By you maybe.

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Nov 18 18:44:05 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 16 22:27:01 2009.

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What carpeting? All I see is dried leaves. It is the woods.

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:48:40 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Nov 18 18:44:05 2009.

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What carpeting? All I see is dried leaves. It is the woods.

Ahahahahaah! WRONG AGAIN, Dan Lawrence!!!

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Nov 18 20:58:47 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:48:40 2009.

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Proff, dumbwad!!!

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 21:00:12 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Nov 18 20:58:47 2009.

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OMG!


THE PHOTO IS RIGHT THERE IN THE POST, DO YOU NOT HAVE EYES?

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 21:06:12 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Nov 18 18:44:05 2009.

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?????
Those are leaves at his feet? The deer must have really redecorated their floor from Rugs R Us then....



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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 22:16:18 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 21:00:12 2009.

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lol

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 22:16:50 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Nov 18 20:58:47 2009.

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you're an idiot, dan lawrence!! LOOK AT THE PHOTO AND APOLOGIZE!

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by Dave on Thu Nov 19 05:30:59 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:22:56 2009.

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Looks like a Harry Potter convention in the last shot!

Chris is correct about the first photo - Bush is about to have a medal or pendant placed around his neck and he bent down so it could be placed there.

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Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 17:49:13 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing -- GOP Prez's Have Done It, posted by Dave on Thu Nov 19 05:30:59 2009.

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Sometimes, google isn't your friend. (grin) Using quotes around "bush bow" and several other delimiters in my search for PROFF, google served that one up several times as being "bush" ... wasn't until a later text search that it turned out that "Bush never bowed" turned out to be the republican talking point of the day. Shoulda known it was a ringer. :)

And yeah, obviously a pajama partay going on in there. Heh.

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 05:54:22 2009, in response to The Bowing, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 16 12:06:26 2009.

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The only America that ever got respect on the world scene was a strong America, not a subservient one.

HumanEvents.com

Obama Bows, but the World Refuses to Bow Back


by Michael Barone
11/19/2009
On his 10-day trip to Asia and in his 10th month in office, Barack Obama is beginning to encounter limits on his ambition to change the world. Even as he bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia last April and to the emperor of Japan last week, the world refuses to bow back.

This is not how it was supposed to be. "I am absolutely certain that generations from now," he said on the night he clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June 2008, "we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last best hope on earth."

We're still working on a lot of that. The Democrats are having a problem passing a health care bill in the Senate (though somehow a lot of sick people are being cared for), and those good jobs will have to wait, it appears, for the December "jobs summit." Whether the rise of the oceans has begun to slow is unclear to me; we had a cool summer and a warm fall here in Washington.

As for the planet beginning to heal, well, that's not clear. Obama evidently expected that his election would change not only America's image in the world but the policies of nations both friendly and unfriendly. In saluting the fall of the Berlin Wall, on videotape, he made no mention of Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher, Lech Walesa or John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev or Vaclav Havel, but cited as a world-changing event his own election in the United States 19 years later.

Obama has often said that all the world's nations have shared interests, and during his campaign he made clear his willingness to meet with leaders of enemy countries in order to reach agreements. His idea seemed to be that his own eloquence and his own example would make the scales fall from their eyes and enable them to see that it was in their interest to do what he would like.

So far, not so good. The mullahs of Iran have consented to something in the nature of negotiations, but their agreement in principle to allow the enrichment of nuclear fuel in France has, like many agreements in principle, turned out to be no agreement. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the mullahs have proved no more moveable by Obama's emollient and respectful tones than by George W. Bush's Texas twang.

Nor have we made any discernible progress on settling issues between Israel and the Palestinians, the first priority of Obama's national security adviser. Obama's insistence on a stop to natural growth of Israeli settlements — no new spare rooms for grandma or the new baby — seems now to have been abandoned. Israelis are distrustful of the U.S., and the West Bank Palestinian leader is threatening to quit.

Obama's unilateral concession to the Russians — abandonment of missile defense plans in Poland and the Czech Republic — has evoked statements from Russian President Dmitri Medvedev that sanctions against Iran may someday be necessary. But it's beginning to look like Medvedev is Lucy, sanctions are the football and Obama is Charlie Brown.

The leaders of China, despite Obama's refusal to meet the Dalai Lama, are sticking to their peg to the dollar and, like the leaders of India, have shown zero willingness to damage their growing economy by raising energy prices to avert the global warming that will supposedly bring catastrophe 50 years from now. So Obama at the APEC summit was forced to concede that there will be no agreement on a global climate treaty next month in Copenhagen.

Obama's election was indeed a major event, as the election of every American president is, and the election of our first African-American president was a landmark in our history, as John McCain noted on election night. But it didn't change the world.

All nations may have the same interests in some platonic sense. But all nations' leaders don't. George W. Bush didn't cause all our foreign policy problems, and Obama's ascension and appeasement don't seem to be solving them.


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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 06:10:22 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 05:54:22 2009.

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You beta males need to get over this "bowing as subservient means getting on your knees and sucking dick". Obama could give 2 shits because he's an alpha male, something most of you only dream of being.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 06:18:55 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 06:10:22 2009.

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Heh. The people he bowed to don't regard him as an "α male". More like ω. If us non-politicians are in the so-called β category, we're doing better than our politicians of any office . . .

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 06:37:03 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 06:18:55 2009.

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Thanks for proving my point :D

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 07:29:20 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 06:37:03 2009.

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What was your point?

These non-reciprocating non-bowers have been bullying Obama since before he took office. It's Obama's job to do the bullying, not to bow like he's their servant.

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 08:02:27 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 07:29:20 2009.

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He was just saying hello, like a handshake.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Bowing - They All Do It

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 30 09:08:26 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing - They All Do It, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 17 10:23:17 2009.

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Agreed.....

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 09:20:40 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 08:02:27 2009.

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No, a handshake's a handshake.

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 09:29:01 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 09:20:40 2009.

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Yes, that's why I used the comparitive "like".

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 09:33:58 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 09:29:01 2009.

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Even though it's unlike and has a far different symbolic meaning?

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 09:37:06 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 09:33:58 2009.

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It's like and not a far different meeting in situ. You are simply wrong.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 30 09:43:56 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 09:37:06 2009.

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"You are simply wrong."

Fred....Olog will never he's wrong...most old women don't....lol



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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 09:54:35 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 09:37:06 2009.

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I'm simply correct and you must get over it. (I'm even correct in a complex manner.)

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Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 30 09:56:09 2009, in response to Re: The Bowing—No Reciprocashun, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 09:54:35 2009.

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Nope, we won so get over it :D

your pal,
Fred

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