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EU President has been *selected*

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:19:35 2009

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Never elected; not the EU's style. You only get to vote for members of the rubber-stamp institution (the EU Parliament).

Heavily criticized process, too; behind closed doors. (Some have called it Soviet Union-style secrecy.) The "winner" is one Herman van Rompuy, prime minister of Belgium (a big taxer but apparently not a big spender; also a big opponent of Turkey joining the EU).

Associated Press

Diplomats say EU chooses Belgian as new president

By CONSTANT BRAND (AP)
BRUSSELS — Diplomats say EU leaders have opted for little-known compromise candidate Belgian Premier Herman Van Rompuy to become the bloc's first full-time president.

Envoys added that the 27 leaders have also agreed to appoint Britain's EU commissioner Catherine Ashton as the bloc's new foreign policy chief, replacing Spaniard Javier Solana. Ashton has been the EU's trade commissioner since last year.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision had not yet been formally announced at summit talks Thursday.

The choice of Van Rompuy signaled the leaders were not eager to have a high-profile personality represent the EU abroad. The two new posts are meant to bolster the EU's influence overseas.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

BRUSSELS (AP) — The European Union's 27 leaders were facing an all-nighter Thursday as a bruising battle loomed over who to name as the bloc's first full-time president and new foreign policy chief.

Sweden's Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt, chair of the EU summit, said despite his best efforts at mediation the EU leaders were deadlocked ahead of the dinner that will decide the issue Thursday night.

Reinfeldt told reporters in Stockholm that "it might take all night" to get all the leaders to agree on two names, and added that the list of candidates he has drafted is far too long.

"We are not of the same opinion," said Reinfeldt. "I need of course the collaboration of all my colleagues to get this through."

Time is pressing for the leaders, as the new posts must be filled before the EU's new reform treaty comes into force on Dec. 1.

At stake is how the European Union presents itself to the world in years to come. The two posts aim to bolster the bloc's influence amid the rise of China, Brazil and India to handle global issues like climate change, terrorism and trade.

The leaders are trying to strike the right balance between big countries and small, rich and poor, east and west, socialists and conservatives, male and female. Lawmakers and protesters have already questioned why only one woman is being considered so far.

Belgium's little-known Premier Herman Van Rompuy leads the pack of half a dozen mentioned politicians said to be interested in the presidential post, which is being created under the new EU charter.

Britain however, opposes Van Rompuy and is pushing hard for ex-prime minister Tony Blair to get the job, saying Europe needs a high-profile EU president.

Others like France and Spain, fearing Blair would overshadow them, favor a low-profile person in the top EU post, one limited to chairing summits and greeting foreign dignitaries.

"The person should be a coordinator rather than a president," said Jerzy Buzek, speaker of the European Parliament.

Smaller EU nations loathe the idea of being led by Blair, whose strong support for the Iraq war angered many Europeans. They also want a president from a country that uses the EU's common euro currency and participates in its passport-free travel zone. Britain has opted out of those EU projects.

Other possibilities for president include Dutch Prime Minister Jan-Peter Balkenende, Luxembourg Premier Jean-Claude Juncker, Estonian President Toomas Ilves, and Vaira Vike-Freiberga, the former Latvian president and the only female candidate touted.

No candidates so far are from France or Germany, the traditional motors of the EU.

The EU reform treaty does not spell out what the EU president's job really is. The original idea was that a European president would give the EU a bigger profile on the world stage, one commensurate with its economic heft.

But that appears to have changed. Power seems to have shifted to the EU's new foreign minister, who will get a say over the bloc's annual €7 billion ($10.5 billion) foreign aid budget and a new 5,000-strong EU diplomatic corps.

The EU has a long history of horse-trading for plum jobs. In 1994, leaders took 12 hours and a veto by Britain to pick an European Commission president. In 1998, it took another 12 hours to choose the first European Central Bank chief — and the EU ended up having two people split the term.

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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 18:27:37 2009, in response to EU President has been *selected*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:19:35 2009.

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Prime ministers are ALSO "selected" in most parliamentary forms of government. Did Van Rompuy get selected by a better margin than 5-4?

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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:32:31 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 18:27:37 2009.

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Apples and oranges. This is not for a prime-ministerial post (at least those people are at first elected)—plus in the EU, the MEPs don't write any laws nor have any power to.

Nobody knows how the process worked except those involved in it.

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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 18:39:16 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:32:31 2009.

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Once again, they emulate America after proven fail. :)

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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 19 18:42:17 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:32:31 2009.

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Nobody knows how the process worked except those involved in it.

She does but you have to play "Vogue" backwards to find out.




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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:43:53 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 19 18:42:17 2009.

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Nope, not even she does. They don't like her after she criticized mistreatment of gypsies, remember?

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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:44:30 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 18:39:16 2009.

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Not funny, and false. Unless you're saying that Obama was appointed?

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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 18:47:46 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:44:30 2009.

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It was the idjit before him, and yes I am. This whole EU thing wouldn't be going where it's going were it not for the impetus given the rest of the planet by Wolfowitz and his thugs ...

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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 19 18:52:34 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:43:53 2009.

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They don't like her after she criticized mistreatment of gypsies, remember?

Irrelevant.
First...what is her name?

Second...the flag...the FLAG!!!



The nexus is for all to see.


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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 19:06:20 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 19 18:52:34 2009.

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Irrelevant

Yeah . . . it was "irrelevant" before '45 too.



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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 19:08:20 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 18:47:46 2009.

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It was the idjit before him

Nope. If that were the case, he'd still be in power. Don't play that game again.



Total BS (and reflective of German propaganda to boot). The EU's governmental structure was like it is today way back in 1951, apart from the "permanent president" recent change. Come back when you know what you're talking about.


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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 19:08:35 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 18:47:46 2009.

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It was the idjit before him

Nope. If that were the case, he'd still be in power. Don't play that game again.

This whole EU thing wouldn't be going where it's going were it not for the impetus given the rest of the planet by Wolfowitz and his thugs

Total BS (and reflective of German propaganda to boot). The EU's governmental structure was like it is today way back in 1951, apart from the "permanent president" recent change. Come back when you know what you're talking about.


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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 19:34:31 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 19:08:20 2009.

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Heh. So the EU has been in operation all that time? Does the CIA factbook know about this? :)

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Re: EU President has been *selected*

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 19:52:39 2009, in response to Re: EU President has been *selected*, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 19:34:31 2009.

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Yeah, but they've been relying on the BND for far too long.

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