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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 16:13:00 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 15:45:37 2009.

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Congratulations, Kevin! That must be some kind of record since you were off the list for maybe 36 hours. Incredible.

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 16:15:34 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 15:48:46 2009.

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And the other side was insisting that Bin Hidin' showed up in Texas ... the PROBLEM is that people pay attention to stories that aren't stories yet but rather rumors, inuendos and a whipping up of the populace over pookahs. Like balloon boy. The "Islamosympathy" angle was probably the result of the inflammatory stories which at the time had no basis. As the investigators find out more and more in time, then maybe we can start pointing fingers if we must elsewhere other than the perp.

So far though, sure does seem like his Imam wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, he was being harassed for both his politics and his religion, and wasn't much of a soldier to begin with. We've had Christian soldiers flip out and do the same thing in the past and yet we weren't talking about burning down churches over it. I think that's pretty much where the attitude you didn't like was coming from. Asking for restraint until the facts were in. Seems to have been Obama's point too.

Sometimes a situation is cut and dried. Car hits pedestrian, driver stumbles out of the car and falls on his face. Guilty. Sometimes a car has a leak in the gas tank, the muffler scrapes on the road and the car explodes. NOT a car bomb. Sometimes you have to wait to find out what REALLY happened once it's figured out. Don't equate the two.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 16:28:36 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 16:13:00 2009.

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Gotta do what ya gotta doo. :)





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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 16:58:54 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 14:07:13 2009.

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Hasan and the Kansas abortion murderer are both RIGHT-WING RELIGIOUS NUTS. I want to see them both put to DEATH!!

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 17:24:08 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 16:28:36 2009.

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You betcha'. LuchAAA needs to provide this board with a weekly or at least bi-monthly update of LOL. Once in a while he will threaten people with the possibility of placing said individual on LOL but that is the last I hear about it. Information is power.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 18:15:30 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 17:24:08 2009.

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I think it deserves its own web site ... I'll even do the schematic. :)


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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 19:06:31 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 17:24:08 2009.

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I can't get on that list, period. I'm taking a break from trying but come Monday, I'll be back in full swing.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 19:16:32 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 15:48:46 2009.

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The Army knows what they're doing here. They're considering the jihad angle but also not limiting themselves to that single theory (unlike some people) just in case that it could be something else and there are other potential powderkegs. The guy is in custody, and he's not gonna shoot anymore GI's so there's no panic in finding out why, so do it right and prevent this from happening again.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 19:24:16 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 19:16:32 2009.

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Shoot him in the back THEN give him a fair trial!



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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 20:06:42 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 19:06:31 2009.

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If you need me as a reference do not hesitate, Fred - I'll vouch for you. Word of advice... you might be trying too hard. It's like a pitcher in baseball who aims the baseball instead of just throwing it or the batter who swings for the fences instead of just smoothly striding into the ball. I am convinced if you just follow my suggestion LuchAAA will have no choice but to take notice and, assuming there is an open slot, place you on LOL. If not, you can at least take comfort in the knowledge that many if not most here feel you are as deserving of the honor and attendant recognition as anyone. B7 flying.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 20:22:21 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 20:06:42 2009.

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I'm willing to rent out MY slot for the right price. :)

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 20:37:06 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 19:06:31 2009.

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You've been on the list for some time.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 20:40:44 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 20:22:21 2009.

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That's ok, I don't want it THAT bad.

your pal,
Fred

















ummmm....how much?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 20:41:16 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 20:37:06 2009.

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False.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 20:43:25 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 19:24:16 2009.

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Capital idea!

your pal,
Gomez

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 20:59:24 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 20:40:44 2009.

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Two dollah ... two dollah ... :>)

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 21:00:43 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 20:43:25 2009.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 22:38:03 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 7 07:23:18 2009.

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It's not being treated as such because the war is already on. If the war wasn't already on, your questions would be valid.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 7 23:59:52 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 08:01:22 2009.

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Yea, he's just a random nutjob who screams allah like every attack around the world. It's not like the army is being attacked by muslims daily or anything(ignoring obama's quagmire for a moment).

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 00:01:09 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 7 23:59:52 2009.

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Ft. Hood.

NY-23

Healthcare reform.

Quite a good week for the liberals.

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Movie About Muhammed(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 00:07:36 2009, in response to Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 5 16:53:29 2009.

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Movie About Religion Of Peace

Leave it to Hollywood.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 03:29:51 2009, in response to Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 5 16:53:29 2009.

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Other important questions include:

1. What mosque(s) did Hasan go to?

2. Are they radical mosques?

3. Did Hasan radicalize anyone on the army base?

4. Did political correctness help make this possible?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 8 07:28:01 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 00:01:09 2009.

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OK, that's going WAY too far.

Calling what happened at Fort Hood part of "a good week for the liberals" is totally offensive.



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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 8 07:31:07 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 03:29:51 2009.

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Political correctness?

The military takes everyone who volunteers. Even people who can't really read. They do try to screen out the mentally ill but obviously they haven't had a 100% success rate.

The alternative is the draft.



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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:00:02 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 8 07:31:07 2009.

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AlM,

We're talking about JIHADISTS who want to attack Americans b/c they believe their religion wants them to. Liberalism is a mental illness.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:03:03 2009, in response to Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 5 16:53:29 2009.

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Here's a partial list of people who still don't want to admit that this was a terrorist attack inspired by Islamic beliefs.

Selkirk
AlM
SPAZ
coutelyounext
RIPTAnohopetunnel
Parkchester177
Moreira



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Re: Hey Liberals(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:08:16 2009, in response to Re: Hey Liberals(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by orange blossom special on Fri Nov 6 12:19:36 2009.

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That's what Napolitano warned up about.

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Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:09:31 2009, in response to Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 5 16:53:29 2009.

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Story Here

Lieberman will investigate this terrorist attack to see if it could've been prevented.

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Time Mag Pro-Terrorist Article(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:12:26 2009, in response to Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 5 16:53:29 2009.

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Time is trying to make this terrorist the victim.

Story Here

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Nov 8 20:23:31 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:03:03 2009.

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No

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Nov 8 20:25:44 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:03:03 2009.

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Why do you keep misspelling my name?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:42:31 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Nov 8 20:25:44 2009.

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Sorry.

So will you admit that this was an Islamic terrorist attack against our military?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 20:48:50 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:00:02 2009.

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Sounds more like the wrong wingers are talking ...



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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Nov 8 20:50:35 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:42:31 2009.

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I still have not decided but I will let you know by tomorrow, Tuesday at the latest.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 20:54:45 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:03:03 2009.

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Kewl! I made it to the top of the charts! :)



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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 8 20:56:18 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:42:31 2009.

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To be fair the media didn't call the LAX attack a terrorist attack either and played up the limo drivers failed business as the reason for the attack. Bush also didn't consider it a terrorist attack and still claimed that there weren't any attacks on American soil after 9/11. OTOH Israel did consider LAX a terrorist attack and I agree. The Ft Hood attack was also a terrorist attack.

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Re: Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 21:01:09 2009, in response to Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:09:31 2009.

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When Cap'n Picard just isn't enuff ...



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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 8 21:17:14 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 20:48:50 2009.

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more cartoons in place of legitimate arguments

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Re: Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 8 21:18:30 2009, in response to Re: Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 21:01:09 2009.

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Another cartoon response instead of a legitimate argument

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 21:19:17 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Nov 8 20:50:35 2009.

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So you belong on my short list of people still in denial. I was right.

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Re: Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 8 21:20:10 2009, in response to Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:09:31 2009.

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First thing his Homeland Security Committee has done yet.

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Re: Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 21:22:08 2009, in response to Re: Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 8 21:18:30 2009.

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So you're a Lieberman supporter? Does Steele know about you? Heh.

Joe Lieberman couldn't investigate his own pants fer krimminy's sake ...

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 21:23:30 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 8 21:17:14 2009.

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Sorry ... you guys *are* cartoons ...

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 21:26:59 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 20:54:45 2009.

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you've earned it with your ridiculous response to this terrorist attack.

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Re: Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 8 21:27:18 2009, in response to Re: Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 21:22:08 2009.

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You have the strange impression that Conservatives are spoon fed their opinions. Yet it is you and the other midless liberal lemmings who have no original thought nor do you stray far from the party line. You invent enemies from media celebs. because they are easy targets yet you call yourself a liberal while the liberals are selling your right to choose down the drain.

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About that list ... (warning to TD, contains humor)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 21:27:42 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 21:19:17 2009.

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If you're gonna be keeping lists, a short training film on how to do it properly is essential!



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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 8 21:28:22 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 21:23:30 2009.

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At least WE are not willing to give up our freedom to choose. Seems you either don't know or are afraid to say NO!

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Re: Lieberman to investigate killings Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Nov 8 21:41:54 2009, in response to Lieberman to investigate terrorist attack(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:09:31 2009.

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Okay, but it doesn't meet the necessary criteria to be called a terrorist attack.

The definition of terrorism is set here.

Was this action done to (or intended to):
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population? No.
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion? No.
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping? No.

As such, it's not terrorism, and Obama is correct to not call it such.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 8 21:43:00 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 21:26:59 2009.

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Ah ... so the investigation is finished? Where's the report so I can read the results?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Nov 8 21:43:22 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 20:00:02 2009.

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Then show me how it satisfies the definition of terrorism as cited here.

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