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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Wed Nov 4 19:06:31 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 19:00:19 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Well, fried is something I don't do.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Nov 4 19:19:09 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 19:06:31 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d What if we supersize the broken glass? :)
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred* on Wed Nov 4 19:40:35 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 4 14:55:13 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Don't worry my fellow Dago. As soon as Owens votes for that socialist health care bill his goose is cooked next year. The Republicans will have a primary next year instead of annointing a candidate and the fury against Obamacare and heavy taxes and heavy unemployment and a fractured economy will sweep Owens out of office along with 40 or so other Democrats. In 2012 or 2014 the GOP will take back control of the House and maybe even the Senate, and if this time they are not stupid as they usually are they will stay in office longer. As far as the youth vote you talk about, many of them are jobless and have lost a lot of their fervor for Obama. They won't vote so enthusiastically for him next time around.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Wed Nov 4 19:44:09 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 19:19:09 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d they we're screwed, b/c we won't be able to work it off on the chin up bars.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Nov 4 19:51:17 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 19:44:09 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Heh. Did I tell you that we give away free chinup bars with every happy meal? :)
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by cortelyounext* on Wed Nov 4 20:01:47 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 19:44:09 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Did they ever replace those things in Forest Park?
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Wed Nov 4 20:21:19 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Nov 4 20:01:47 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d last i checked, no. i'll be there for thanksgiving and will update. B7 B6.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Nov 5 02:12:25 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 18:02:22 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Tilapia is a farmed fish, no?
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Nov 5 02:41:00 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 5 02:12:25 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d i bought "wild caught". costs a little more, but I don't eat it every day.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by Fred G* on Thu Nov 5 04:01:53 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 5 02:41:00 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Tilapia has no flavor. You need to wrap it in bacon. Try wild caught salmon. your pal, Fred
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by Fred G* on Thu Nov 5 04:04:05 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 18:02:22 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Fish farming, done properly, can be fine but it makes for a pricey product. I get the impression that most of our shrimp is coming from China anyway. I'm just reading some bags of frozen shimp, not making a study. your pal, Fred
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Thu Nov 5 09:13:44 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 5 04:01:53 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Try wild caught salmon. And not Keta or Silverbright, either, unless you're making patties.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by Fred G* on Thu Nov 5 11:20:59 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 5 09:13:44 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They used to sell that in cans in the grocery IINM, called "chum salmon". It was Bumble Bee brand I believe. Sockeye has been available in Stop and Shop but Coho is better. I think wild Atlantic salmon is better but commercial fishing is prohibited so it's just been that farmed stuff, which I'll buy now and then. your pal, Fred
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by cortelyounext* on Thu Nov 5 13:14:24 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 5 11:20:59 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I used to walk into the warehouse in Fairbanks, Alaska where they had a small store in the corner of the building. I'd get a fresh King Salmon (Silver if King was sold out) cut into 2" steaks and wrapped in butcher paper. Get back to the base, fire up the grill, baste the steaks with nothing but butter, pepper, and honey, and throw em' on the fire. Heaven per se.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Thu Nov 5 14:11:41 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 17:16:27 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I hate polls as well, but there was a definate move away from Corzine and towards Christie after Obama so vividly inserted himself into the race last week. Outside the programmable liberals and blacks, the Obama mystique is gone.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Thu Nov 5 14:12:45 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 17:20:16 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It sure is. Check out how well Obama did in it as compared to areas outside A.D. 122 in NY-23 ....
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Thu Nov 5 14:26:01 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 4 19:40:35 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Owens has campaigned against it. But as a Democrat, he might change his position when Pelosi gets her tentacles into him. It would a singular embarassment to the DNC is the man they have used so much to spin Tuesday night's debacle so much was to side with those opposed to Obama's socialist agenda.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by italianstallion* on Thu Nov 5 16:21:14 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 4 19:40:35 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Ya think?
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Nov 5 16:24:18 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 5 14:12:45 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Doesn't matter ... Bruno and Paturkey gerrymandered that district. :)
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by italianstallion* on Thu Nov 5 16:24:27 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 5 14:26:01 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Pelosi announced today that Owens is supporting her bill. Interesting that few in the media have noticed that one result of the "GOP sweep" yesterday was that Pelosi has 2 more Democrats in the House than she had the day before. Also, in 2 states so-called "taxpayer bills of rights" to limit taxes and spending went down to resounding defeat. Doesn't sound like a repudiation of "big government" to me.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Nov 5 16:31:50 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 5 14:11:41 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d More likely the pollsters got it wrong all along. Let's be real here. Corzine was as popular in New Jersey as Bloomberg. And yet, it was a nail biter. Hmmmm. Which Wall Street asshole do I want? Like Virginia, woulda been nice if they had a choice ...
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by Fred G* on Thu Nov 5 18:20:52 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Nov 5 13:14:24 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d IAWT unwarranted culinary account. your pal , Fred
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Thu Nov 5 19:55:13 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 17:32:55 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Eitehr the GOP or the RNC ran ads against the guy, so I dunno.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Nov 5 19:57:58 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Nov 5 19:55:13 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Even that was a bunch of contradictory stuff ... I've seen plenty of stupid things done in political campaigns in my years, but NY-23 should be its own textbook. :)
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Nov 5 20:58:50 2009, in response to WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 01:45:11 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Everything you post is anti-GOP. Total harcore leftist Dem, eh? (Not even "liberal".) I don't listen to teabaggers and Oxymorons Nor do most of us. But Alan Grayson's more your speed, maybe? what with your continued use of leftist epithets . . . ? Now here's some extremely biased media, a Binghamton TV station posting Dem propaganda as a news article . . . bask in its glory. Democrats make history with victory in New York's 23rd district Last Update: 11/04 11:12 am From NYS Democratic Committee: STRONG PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP DEMOCRATS MAKE HISTORY WITH VICTORY IN NEW YORK’S 23RD DISTRICT Bill Owens pulled out an extraordinary victory in New York’s 23^rd Congressional District against the extreme right wing of a Republican Party in disarray, making him the first Democrat to hold that seat since the Civil War. An Air Force veteran and long-time community leader, Bill Owens represents the best of the Democratic Party and embodies our belief that government has to work for all to be successful. Bill Owens entered this race to stand strongly with and for the people of upstate New York and to bring upstate values to Washington. President Obama and Vice President Biden both traveled to New York to show their full support for candidate Owens. Now, as our next Congressman from the 23^rd district, Bill Owens will go to Washington to work along with the Administration to pass comprehensive health care reform, assistant in our country’s economic recovery, and lend his voice and experience to important discussions about national security and the future of our military in Afghanistan. Owens will continue his work to create new jobs and bring economic development to the 23^rd District. He will ensure returning Veterans receive the respect and care they deserve and will serve as a strong voice for our farmers and ranchers in upstate New York, providing them with the support that they need to get the job done. “We send our congratulations to Bill Owens for a race well run. He will be an honorable representative for the people of the 23^rd District of New York,” said Jay S. Jacobs, Democratic State Chair. “The Democratic Party will not establish a litmus test for our candidates, like the one the Republicans imposed on their candidates in the 23^rd. I’m proud to be a part of a Democratic Party that represents all of the working people of New York.” The State Democratic Committee deployed troops to knock on doors, make countless phone calls, and helped to get Owens' message out to the voters of the 23^rd Congressional district. Democrats also achieved two important victories in New York City. NEW YORK CITY CITY COMPTROLLER John Liu, whose historic victory in New York City as the newly elected City Comptroller and first Asian-American elected to a city-wide office in New York, will bring financial reforms and accountability back to the City. John will start on Day 1 to spur economic growth and bring jobs to New York City by investing in infrastructure, maximizing federal stimulus dollars, diversifying investments, reforming the City’s contract process and investing in affordable housing. PUBLIC ADVOCATE Strong, dedicated and persistent, Bill de Blasio will bring a record of achievement to the office of Public Advocate ensuring that New Yorkers have a voice in shaping the policies of their government. Endorsed by leaders across the political and ideological spectrum, Bill has the support to hold government accountable, the strength to defend the rights of New Yorkers and the determination to get results. MAYOR Democrats are proud of our candidate for Mayor. In a race that was much tighter than anyone predicted, Bill Thompson mounted a strong challenge to Bloomberg and his millions, speaking for disenfranchised voters across the City. We recognize Bill Thompson’s outstanding record of service as President of the Board of Education and as our City’s Comptroller. Thompson is a tireless champion for working people and has the courage to talk about the issues that matter most. Bill has dedicated his life to building a City that works for everyone, not just the privileged few.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Fri Nov 6 03:03:29 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 5 16:31:50 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Whether the pollsters got it all wrong or not is irrelevant, as it's quite obvious that all of Obama's campaigning here did absolutely nothing. While he may not have hurt Corzine, he sure as hell didn't help him either. As mentioned, his mystique is gone.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Nov 6 04:08:09 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 6 03:03:29 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Heh. So moving over there where liberals have been roundly defeated? :) "Dignitaries" get called in to stump for the party, name ONE who hasn't. And the last President was so toxic to his party that the invites went away. So nothing new here other than the direction of the spin cycle.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by trainsarefun* on Fri Nov 6 09:40:55 2009, in response to WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 01:45:11 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d A house divided can't stand. A party is unwise to publicly air its ideological laundry. In a world in which Mr. Hoffman didn't contest the GOP's final judgment, the GOP likely retained the seat via Ms. Scozzafava's victory. If you're perceived as a nutjob - and it's not hard to be perceived as a nutjob when the GOP candidate turns around and calls you a right wing nutjob - you're quite likely going to lose the election. The GOP victors in NJ and VA were not perceived as nutjobs. (Indeed, there were months of coverage in the WSJ editorial pages targeting Mr. Christie as a mushy RINO moderate who didn't have what it takes to win). The GOP loser in NY-23 surely was perceived as a nutjob. The present habit by some in and around the GOP for picking on an alleged RINO isn't really going to pay off for at least two reasons. First, the GOP candidate in NY-23 can't be perceived to be as far right as their candidate in OK, and their candidate in VT should be seen as to the left of those in NY-23 and OK. Second, we all know that it's bluster in spots. E.g., let's see Senators Snowe and Collins get 'teabagged' by a 'grassroots' primary challenge, but that's not going to happen because the 'teabagger' would no doubt lose. Anyhow, let's see how it unfolds in the FL race with Charles Crist. Would some rather be angry than win?
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by trainsarefun* on Fri Nov 6 09:45:41 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 4 15:00:46 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Everyone's overlooking that the turnout in VA and NJ was down from last year. Well part of that is of course that 2009 is an odd number. The Dem base that turned out for Obama stayed home, because they were not energized by the candidates or the issues. Arguably that happened in VA with Creigh Deeds, but what about in NJ?
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Nov 6 14:44:46 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Nov 6 09:45:41 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d In New Jersey, they weren't energized by the candidates ... as much as people hated Corzine, Krispy Kristie was no thrill either. And Daggett had no chance.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Nov 6 14:47:42 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Nov 6 09:40:55 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You BETCHA! :)
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by docstox* on Fri Nov 6 15:01:40 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 4 15:00:46 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I can understand the low turnout in VA because Obama never showed up there, they wrote off that state.Obama, however, came THREE times to NJ to push for Corzine.I would expect that the same fervor that the minorities and young people had in the presidential election would have carried over.They had to expect that or Obama would not have tried so hard.Corzine elected....NOT!!!
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Nov 6 15:09:16 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by docstox on Fri Nov 6 15:01:40 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I have about nine close friends scattered across New Jerky and not ONE of them voted ... all 9 said the exact same thing too ... "which Wall Street asshole do you want?" ... the answer from all nine was "none of the above." Granted, 9 does not make a landslide but I was amazed to hear the exact same response from all of them.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by docstox* on Fri Nov 6 15:15:51 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 15:09:16 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's very sad when people do not exercise their right to vote.If they felt that way, they should have at least voted for Daggett which would have sent a message to the two parties.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Nov 6 15:22:48 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by docstox on Fri Nov 6 15:15:51 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yeah, tried to make that point. But the argument was that the third party guy couldn't win either. Ah well ... it's like they say, only the motivated come out to play on off years, and none of my friends were the least bit motivated. :( I vote every election, even the little ones. But I must say I too ain't very motivated other than duty. Haven't seen anyone I wanted to vote for since John Anderson.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by docstox* on Fri Nov 6 15:25:54 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 15:22:48 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Hoo boy, that was some years back. What's that song by the Who? "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Nov 6 15:48:29 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by docstox on Fri Nov 6 15:25:54 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You betcha! :) Yeah, proud of the fact that MY guy always loses, so it ain't MY fault. Heh.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by trainsarefun* on Fri Nov 6 19:48:54 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 14:44:46 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d In New Jersey, they weren't energized by the candidates ... That's true, but Jon Corzine did run on pretty much an Obama-style platform. Hell, he was often more specific than Mr. Obama was when running (or even nowadays in the Oval Office!)
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Nov 6 19:54:24 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Nov 6 19:48:54 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Maybe it's just me, or to borrow a quote from one of my buddies down there, Corzine ran on a two-pronged platform ... "Chromedome is better than El Gordo" and "Did I do that?" Reaching for Obama didn't come until much later (and upside-down) on ... let's get real ... NEITHER of them had a platform which is why the mudpies flew. :(
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by trainsarefun* on Fri Nov 6 20:17:14 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 19:54:24 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I don't know why anyone would want to be Governor anyway. People want you to spend more and tax less. The only platform that's going to get anyone there sustainably is called God, and we're not even sure whether God exists!
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Nov 6 20:43:23 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Nov 6 20:17:14 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d We have a winner! (fail) ... :)
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 7 03:22:32 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 5 04:04:05 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I've seen China on some shrimp bags at Wal-Mart. The article in Mens Health mentioned Thailand and shrimp being born in one country, then shipped and raised in another country to get around all the legalities in labeling and other laws. Article also mentioned how shrimp have their eyes plucked out so they stop producing hormones on their own.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 7 03:32:20 2009, in response to WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 01:45:11 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Didn't you say something about jumping to conclusions in the Muslim Ft. Hood threads, yet you had already jumped to your own conclusions about this election result.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Sat Nov 7 03:45:30 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 03:32:20 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Heh. Nice stretch. Nope ... everything in there came from the local newspapers up there and other written reports by other newspapers along with a little wikipedia for some of the background on candidate histories. Everything in there is PUBLISHED fact. But do keep reaching ... :)
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 7 03:56:53 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 03:45:30 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d nope. i'm right. and that article was written before the results. only the numbers had to be plugged in.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Sat Nov 7 04:05:52 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 03:56:53 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Heh. Believe whatever you wish ... I know what I wrote, and when I wrote it. There's a timestamp on the post too. NY-23 was something I was paying attention to since it's "local" ... it's a CONSPIRACY, man! :)
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 7 04:11:00 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 04:05:52 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d it's a CONSPIRACY I know.
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Sat Nov 7 04:15:09 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 04:11:00 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You can join up ... they're accepting recruits! http://www.floridafreemilitia.com/
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Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 7 04:16:53 2009, in response to Re: WHY the GOP lost NY-23, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 04:15:09 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d LOL.
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