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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 6 22:56:52 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 6 18:02:41 2009.

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Isn't it disgusting how some of the left is actually taking that position?

Who?
Name names.


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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 22:59:43 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 6 22:56:52 2009.

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The AP. McClatchy Newspapers. ABC NEWS all in the last few hours. I'm sure you clicked the links I provided. Fucking sickening. They're so obsesses with preaching "tolerance", "understanding", and the usual liberal speak that Americans are getting tired of.

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 23:01:33 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 6 22:56:52 2009.

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There's more to stimulate you.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usshootingcrimemilitaryislam


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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:09:27 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 22:59:43 2009.

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Something wrong with understanding and tolerance?

BTW, something wrong with looking at facts before drawing conclusions?

Hasan should be eviscerated for what he did. Doesn't mean all Muslims should be.

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Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:19:03 2009, in response to More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 22:56:19 2009.

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Did you read the McClatchy story profiling the 13 dead victims? (Hint, it's linked to on the same page as the story you posted.)

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Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Fri Nov 6 23:53:13 2009, in response to Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:19:03 2009.

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Doubt it. I also doubt that he saw the following report (from that bastion of the liberal MSM itself, NBC) on how Kileen's townsfolk is dealing with the aftermath.

Visit msnbc.com for Breaking News, World News, and News about the Economy



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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 00:08:08 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 6 18:03:42 2009.

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If that was the case, then you must not have been watching the same news stations that I was.

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:24:40 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 00:08:08 2009.

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Was Rod Serling reading the news to you?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:27:18 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:34:50 2009.

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Camp Liberty Shooting

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Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:27:57 2009, in response to Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Fri Nov 6 23:53:13 2009.

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Love the moment of silence at the Mickey Ds

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:31:24 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:27:18 2009.

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Clearly he was not a religious fanatic. Neither was David Berkowitz, nor was John Lee Malvo. In the latest incident, though, he was. I honestly do not see or undersand the point you are trying to make.

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:36:01 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 22:59:43 2009.

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ABC NEWS all in the last few hours.

Disney is leftist?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:47:01 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:31:24 2009.

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Clearly he was not a religious fanatic.

Clearly not but if that guy's name was Hassan instead of Russell, the LuchAAA's of the world would say that the motivation was religious before knowing all the facts in the case.

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 00:59:42 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:24:40 2009.

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Nope---I was seeing it with my own two eyes.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 01:01:07 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:31:24 2009.

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The point that may be made here is that just because his name sounds Muslim doesn't mean that the attack is religiously motivated.

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Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:05:12 2009, in response to Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Fri Nov 6 23:53:13 2009.

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ok. but this should be the only tone of coverage. not the ass-kissing shit about poor muslims in the military.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:06:49 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 01:01:07 2009.

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HE WAS FUCKING YELLING "ALLAH AKBAR" WHILE SHOOTING.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 01:08:26 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:06:49 2009.

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Doesn't meet the standard for that though. Just because he yelled that doesn't make it sufficient proof. See Merriam Webster's definition for terrorism.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:09:59 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:47:01 2009.

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LuchAAA's of the world? LOL.

Barack Hussein Obama commented about the Cambridge police incident before knowing all the facts, so I guess I'm like Obama. Of course, I was right about Hasan from the beginning.

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:11:16 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:36:01 2009.

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Based on the anti-American stuff they've put out in the hours after this jihad attack, they are certainly sounding liberal.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:11:24 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:06:49 2009.

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If he was a non-terrorist, going for maximum "suicide by cop" that'd certainly be a way to bring it down faster. Does ANYONE have proff that he really was a terrorist and not completely crackers? He WAS a shrink after all ... shrinks go down in melodramatic ways when they snap.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:13:38 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:11:24 2009.

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He was obviously a one-man sleeper cell. The 21st hijacker for sure. Only people like you, SMAZ, RIPTAnohopeTunnel, and Kew Gardens Teleport are in denial.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:15:40 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 01:08:26 2009.

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Fucking please. If someone went into a military base, shot up a bunch of people, while quoting the bible, or yelling, "Jesus is my savior, there is nothing I shall want", it would be all the media would focus on.

Instead, the liberal MSM is portraying this guy as a disgruntled employee, not an anti-American, pro-Islam radical.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:18:31 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:09:59 2009.

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Maybe he had a "teaching moment" over all that. :)

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:20:19 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:13:38 2009.

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No denial here ... only questioning where people are getting their talking points from ... only thing missing from this thread is a helium balloon and an 8 year old puking on camera. :)

Couple of days AFTER the event, some facts seem to be emerging. But I still don't see a formal investigation report yet ...

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:22:19 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:20:19 2009.

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well. if Rush and Beck were off today, you know the feelings are genuine, not rehashed from their shows.

regardless, the liberal MSM still won't cover the Muslim angle in this. just treat Hasan as disgruntled employee.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:29:47 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:22:19 2009.

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Can we get all the OTHER talking necks to take a va-ca too so folks can get some sleep and spend a few seconds collecting their OWN thoughts for a change? Heh.

IF it turns out that he was playing some jihad thingy, then go for it. Otherwise, it's OLD news and playing the religion angle would only generate more ho-hum. I thought you understood the media ... yell jihad too often, and when you have a REAL one, it'll just be another balloon boy. :)

From the looks of it SO far, he probably just snapped. Maybe you'll get your wish after all, but we won't know until there's a report. If I was covering it, would have gone with the story the first day, identify the perp by name, cite the deaths and injuries and the heroism of the responding MP's and leave it there until there was actual information to disseminate. I would have covered the general's speech and a few other OFFICIAL releases. However, speculating is the job of talk radio and faux nooze ...

Remember all the hoohah with the DC sniper who turned out NOT to be a Muslim?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:31:20 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:29:47 2009.

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Remember all the hoohah with the DC sniper who turned out NOT to be a Muslim?

You're joking, right?


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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:34:59 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:31:20 2009.

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Sorry ... forgot about "literalism" here ... was he part of a terrorist cell, or was he nuts?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:39:10 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:34:59 2009.

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he was a black convert to Islam, who wanted to recruit, and kill white people.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:51:59 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:39:10 2009.

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Sorry, old story, I forgot. Did they OFF him? If so, "martyr" if he had a following ...

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Nov 7 03:00:17 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 6 22:37:41 2009.

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YIKES!

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 03:15:22 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Nov 7 03:00:17 2009.

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and keep in mind, Fred G hinted something about some liberals believing in keeping a gun in the house.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 07:01:40 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:51:25 2009.

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I may be crazy but I'm law abiding. My comment was way out of line and I apologize to you and the board.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 7 07:23:18 2009, in response to Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 5 16:53:29 2009.

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12 American G.I.'s and 1 civilian were killed and 30 injured by an enemy on HOME SOIL. Why aren't we treating this like Pearl Harbor or 9-11?? Why are businesses open? Why was there a parade for a baseball team? (And I've always been a super Yankee fan) Where is Homeland Security? Am I the only one asking these questions?

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 07:39:05 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 7 07:23:18 2009.

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Because it's the Army and the Army doesn't close the store because they took one in the gut, that's why.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 08:01:22 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 07:39:05 2009.

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Because it's the Army and the Army doesn't close the store because they took one in the gut, that's why.


Exactly. And not only that but we're not gonna give this asshole Hasan the honor of being mentioned in the same breath as Pearl Harbor and 9/11. He can only wish.

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 09:55:08 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:11:16 2009.

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What anti-American stuff? Please enlighten me on this.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 12:08:03 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 07:01:40 2009.

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Accepted with the condition that you accept mine for the Nazi crack.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 12:11:15 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:47:01 2009.

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Look, I can agree with you but don't blame the "Luchs of the world" because a large number of mindless fanatics have prostituted their faith and made it a vehicle of their hatred. They are the ones who say they do what they do in the name of Allah, not the "Luchs of the world."

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 12:13:47 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 01:08:26 2009.

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Please, you guys freely assume that everyone who bombs an abortion clinic is a right wing fanatic. You seem to have no problem not waiting for all of the evidence.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 12:34:19 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 12:08:03 2009.

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I'm fine with that and thanks.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 12:51:04 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 12:13:47 2009.

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You must be confusing me with other people.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 14:07:13 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 12:13:47 2009.

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Yup. Remember when Tiller the abortion doc was killed, Selkirk, SMAZ, and that whole bunch was going crazy.

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 14:25:32 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 09:55:08 2009.

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i told you.

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 14:26:51 2009, in response to Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 5 16:53:29 2009.

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Jihad, although Selkirk will deny it





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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 15:36:47 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Nov 7 09:55:08 2009.

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There is none; they think it makes their argument infallible, but it does not.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 15:45:37 2009, in response to Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 14:07:13 2009.

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Oh boy! I'm *firmly* back on the list! :)

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Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 15:48:46 2009, in response to Re: Don't Jump To Conclusions.......(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 15:36:47 2009.

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i told him, and I'll tell you again. within hours of the massacre, the liberal MSM was pumping out the Islamosympathy stories, making this guy something of a victim too. I linked the stories in this thread.

It was the liberal MSM who jumped to conclusions with stories and slants about battle trauma, etc......

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Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas)

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 7 15:57:59 2009, in response to Re: More Liberal MSM Support Islam Stories(Re: Mass Murder at Fort Hood, Texas), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:05:12 2009.

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