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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:26:19 2009, in response to Obama "advisor" goes on rampage in texas, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 6 10:23:09 2009. What bullshit. This was published in that rag, WorldNet Daily. Hasan's role in the conference? He was a member of the audience! This is like saying someone who wrote a letter to the editor of the Wall St. Journal "advised" said editor. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:00:50 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:18:19 2009. If you kill them, then the terrorists win. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:05:04 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:17:15 2009. I think he probably had other issues ... but hey. Why wait for the Army to finish investigating when we can instead listen to crackpot diagnoses instead? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:07:54 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''NON-advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:26:19 2009. Actually, for Rupert's WSJ, that *would* be "expert advice." :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 23:09:02 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''NON-advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:07:54 2009. jihadwatch.com has some excellent coverage of this jihad massacre. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:11:06 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:18:19 2009. Why not? They can't hurt society while in jail for life. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:14:35 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 6 14:41:49 2009. But in April 2008 they didn't know who the next Pres would be now, did they?. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:23:39 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''NON-advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 23:09:02 2009. Sorry you're so bored that you're watching jihad ... if you spot any of them headed north, give us a honk and we'll break out some falaffel ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:27:51 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:14:35 2009. It was a clever ruse back in 2008 ... first they trip up Romney, then they toe-rassled Ron Paul to the ground so they could put up McCain. And then, when it looked like despite all efforts McCain might have won, they brought in Palin to complete the conspiracy to kneecap the party. GENIUS, I tell ya! :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 23:43:18 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:00:50 2009. SO then if they kill us then we win? YOu are joking, right? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 23:46:19 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:05:04 2009. You were the one drawing conclusions. I was repeating, verbatim, what his cousin said was the source of his anger. But you are right, maybe we can wait until he blames Bush, then stop looking for the cause. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 6 23:48:13 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 19:29:08 2009. Since when is that the case in the military? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 23:49:31 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:11:06 2009. Maybe because a major source for Islam converts are prison inmates. Are you now planning to keep future jihadists behind bars because they are converted in prison? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:52:17 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 23:43:18 2009. I guess you don't understand ... if they kill us, they win, if we kill them, they win. You see ... as Osama hisself was quoted on the 9/11 recording, "We are going to win, because they love life and we love death." More similar statements can be read here in this article:http://www.focusonjerusalem.com/alltheythathatemelovedeath.html Therefore, death is martyrdom and HONOR in the eyes of the terrorists. And you're saying we should HONOR them? I think not ... LIFE imprisonment denies them that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:55:14 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 23:46:19 2009. Heh. It isn't that simple. And even more "simple" is putting words in my mouth. I'd like to know what it was all about and it's still being investigated. I have no doubts that this was part of it, but there are probably even more parts to it, possibly a nutcake who decided to go for "death by cop" rather than being shipped out. Let's see what the authorities determine happened, or are you offering carte blanche on amateurs determining what happened in that trainwreck next time? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 23:56:40 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:52:17 2009. Well, if you want to take the word of a mass murdering coward then you are entitled to your POV. As far as I'm concerned, kill them and be done with them. If more come, kill more. If their kids come - kill the kids. As charles Bronson said in Deathwish 3, |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:02:20 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 23:56:40 2009. So now we're justifying Hitler? :(
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:04:55 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 6 23:55:14 2009. 1) The guy was already on an FBI watch list for shit he posted on the internet.2) His family has already told about his anger about obama's failure to remove our troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. 3) He already was angry and scared about being deployed to the middle-east. 4) He was pissed about his poor performance (OER) review. 5) He was pissed about alleged harassment by his fellow soldiers. 6) He was upset by his car being keyed with the word "Allah". How many reasons do you need to have before you can accept that an irrational man committed an irrational act. In this country the next guy could exhibit all the same "symptoms" and you could still do nothing about it until he acted. Innocent until proven guilty? Or are you now in favor of prophylactic incarceration? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:06:09 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:02:20 2009. Only if you believe that Jews were a threat and a problem. Oh wait, silly me. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:09:10 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:04:55 2009. It's extremely OBVIOUS that he committed the act, it's also obvious that he was out of his teat. I'm certainly not trying to justify it. However if "prophylactic incarceration" is what you're after, I'd be very careful what I was wishing for because if Glenn Beck is right, they won't even allow me to bring you a pack of smokes because we'll never know where they took you.Looks like the military REALLY screwed up if this is all true. But just like you caution the foamerettes not to judge a subway incident, I'm saying the same thing here until the report is written. You can't kill him until the authorities file the paperwork. Understand where I'm coming from yet? I'm not accepting ANYTHING on the talking lamp or the MSM until I can read the indictment or courtsmartial charges. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:11:28 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:06:09 2009. Now what is THAT supposed to mean? Since you're Jewish, certainly you can understand how wiping out an entire religion because of claims against some might have a downside? MOST of us have *learned* the lesson of "never again" ... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:16:32 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:11:28 2009. Just like roaches, we are not talking about wiping out all insects. We were not talking about a religion. We were talking about islamic terrorists. According to the media, they are only a small fraction of the religion. You were the one who raised the extermination of an entire religion. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:18:27 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:16:32 2009. From all the nonsense I'm seeing from the right wing, they ARE including all. So how do you spot an "Islamic terrorist?" The FBI, DHS and many others could seriously use your trained eye ... are there special hair features? Nose features? Eye colors? Brand of sneakers? Non-pork eaters? Skull caps? How does one spot one of those? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:20:20 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:09:10 2009. Talk about twisting words, I am not suggesting any kind of preventative incarceration. I was asking if that were your goal in getting all the facts. What difference does it make? Does knowing all the facts make John Allen Mohammud now worth saving? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:24:05 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:18:27 2009. Rhetoric from the left????? Don't kill terrorists, they are more likely to vote democratic? How do you spot a terrorist? By his actions. But when you identify one, you had better kill him. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:29:47 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:20:20 2009. Would his death further his "cause?" Did he even HAVE a cause Don't think so ... did THIS guy have a "cause?" Or was he just a nut? Is it DETERMINED one way or the other yet? (and I don't mean by the MSM or low talkers who'll be spouting about something else tomorrow) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:32:04 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:24:05 2009. Heh. That's the shortest loop track I've ever gone on the ground on. :)Have you installed this on your shop floor? 
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:33:53 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:29:47 2009. He was a nut. Normal people do not kill 12 strangers outside of a military action. So what is the point? Do you think Osama bin Laden is waiting to see how we treat him before he plans his next action against us? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:34:41 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:32:04 2009. Cartoon politics = liberalism |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:37:26 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:33:53 2009. You BET he is ... pity we didn't get him while we had a chance back in 2001 when we knew where he was ... OK, so if this guy was a mental defective, and NOT on a Jihad, then he's not a martyr if we off him. So what exactly IS the answer other than a talk radio merry go round here? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:38:55 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:34:41 2009. No ... wrong wing doublespeak = cartoon. And by the way, that's not a cartoon ... it has meaning and was in a very popular movie. Describes a mindset. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:40:49 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:37:26 2009. Are you talking about the messiah keith olbermann? Seems that his talking points become gospel for most of you guys. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:43:11 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:40:49 2009. I haven't watched that asshole since he covered basketball. Sorry, all the news I need I get from a local station and Stewart and Colbert. I can actually read newspapers and have no need to be TOLD what to think. Therefore, talking points are unnecessary. Now if you have some FACTS, I'll listen. But channeling newsblondes is a waste of my time. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 06:27:11 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 6 18:12:23 2009. McVeigh blew up a building before he got busted. And they had to look for him after that.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 7 06:29:47 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 6 22:20:15 2009. Broken link. Nothing gets your message across like a broken link.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Nov 7 08:30:15 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by docstox on Fri Nov 6 15:20:54 2009. After this, maybe I better find a good old Italian barber shop.Yeah, the John Gotti crowd is much less violent. :-) |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 08:40:11 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Nov 7 08:30:15 2009. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 16:08:52 2009, in response to Re: Obama ''advisor'' goes on rampage in texas, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 7 08:40:11 2009. In real life it was Colombo family member Gregory Scarpa Sr. who really did that but it was with a gun through the guy's mouth.Scarpa was recruited by J. Edgar Hoover to strong arm the Klan into finding out where the three civil rights workers had been buried. They would do things that FBI agents wouldn't do because they would be unethical and illegal. It worked. |
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