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Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 22:40:34 2009, in response to House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 5 22:39:41 2009. Source? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 5 22:42:39 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All, posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 22:40:34 2009. Fox News |
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Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 22:46:10 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 5 22:42:39 2009. Wrong again.It ALREADY has been posted. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/66229-final-house-health-bill-filed-vote-as-early-as-friday-am The vote on the House's healthcare reform legislation will not be held until Friday evening at the earliest. The House Rules Committee posted the Manager's Amendment to the healthcare online Tuesday evening, signifying the final legislation as having been officially sent to the floor. The posting means a vote on the bill could be called as early as Friday evening, under House Democrats' agreement with Republican leaders to post their final healthcare bill online for a minimum of 72 hours before a vote is called. |
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Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 5 22:47:43 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All, posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 22:46:10 2009. Stand corrected but the point still stands. The speaker is a liar |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 22:56:46 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 5 22:47:43 2009. How so? It was posted. The point does not stand. She agreed with GOP to post 72 hours before vote. She has posted it. Vote won't be for at least 72 hours.Sounds like Fox News is a liar. No surprise there. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 5 22:59:26 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 22:56:46 2009. Or TD mis-interpreted what he heard. But don't let that possibility interfere with your FOX News rant. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 23:02:58 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 5 22:59:26 2009. TD heard what he wanted to hear, I guess.Why is my saying Fox lied whose than his saying Pelosi lied? Why are you selective in your attacks on rants? |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 00:41:08 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 23:02:58 2009. No, what I just heard again is that the bill will not have been posted on the internet for the promised 72 hours before the vote? What are the democrats afraid of? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 00:44:19 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 00:41:08 2009. http://thehill.com/homenews/house/66201-democrats-abortion-compromise-does-not-break-72-hour-promise |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 00:52:03 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 23:02:58 2009. See subject line. PeLOUSY IS A LIAR. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 6 04:11:41 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 5 22:59:26 2009. Or TD mis-interpreted what he heard.Or TD did no due diligence as usual. |
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Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 6 10:40:31 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All, posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 5 22:46:10 2009. Which version are we talking about. Thus far I haven't seen the final as they keep adding pages onto it.I would really like to see the healthcare policy that one would sign up for, individually, or in a group plan setting that is about 2000 pages long. I think mine could be a page. Add into it the reimbursement policies maybe a dozen and a half. The rest are the federal medicare reimbursments, but to stretch that out to make it fair you have to add in grids of every procedure code, and that's more of an index. I wonder how many pages the loan doc will be when they nationalize auto buying. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 6 12:58:46 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 00:52:03 2009. Not to worry, there will be no vote tomorrow because the Democrats do not have the votes to pass it:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33717968/ns/politics-health_care_reform |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:39:11 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 00:41:08 2009. Bill was posted. 72 hours will elapse before vote. Nuff said. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:41:22 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:39:11 2009. NOT IN THE FINAL VERSION. What part of that are you not getting? |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:41:44 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 00:52:03 2009. Let's see - bill is posted days ahead of scheduled vote. In the interim, a few minor amendments are debated and passed. ALL Congresspeople are present in the House while that occurs. WHY do they need to have these amendments posted and wait 72 hours again? Tell me that again? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:42:58 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:41:22 2009. This part:Let's see - bill is posted days ahead of scheduled vote. In the interim, a few minor amendments are debated and passed. ALL Congresspeople are present in the House while that occurs. WHY do they need to have these amendments posted and wait 72 hours again? Tell me that again? |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:44:27 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:41:44 2009. The bill was not posted in it's final version. Why is 72 hours so important? I'm an avid reader and I'd have a difficult time reading 1900 pages and undersanding it fully. If this bill is so vital and so good, why won't the democrats allow full and honest discussion? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:46:19 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:42:58 2009. Have you read the entire bill - every word? Do you understand it fully? You have no questions about it? And yet you are so furiously supporting it? Why do you think that is? Have you not learned anything from the stimulus bill? |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Fri Nov 6 22:48:38 2009, in response to House Bill Will Not Be Posted After All, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 5 22:39:41 2009. VETO! VETO! VETO! |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:48:55 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:44:27 2009. The bill was posted except for some possible amendments that may be added while the House members are there listening. If they're not smart enough to process what they hear, tough shit. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:52:03 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:46:19 2009. I am not a legislator. It is their job to read bills. Have you read every bill you ever supported? What a phony.I have read a lot about the bill and I have read portions of it that interest me or that I need to answer the questions I have. That's all an informed citizen needs to do. 99% of the stimulus bill was fine. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:54:19 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 22:52:03 2009. I'm not convinced. All I see is you getting angrier and angrier and yet not a cogent or persuasive argument to convince me. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:05:29 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:54:19 2009. I don't see anger in my post.Do you expect every citizen to read every page of every bill? Then why do we need legislators? The bill was posted. If there are some amendments in the next 72 hours, why do they have to be posted if people can watch on CSPAN if they are truly interested, and the lawmakers are in the room when it happens? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 23:41:39 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Posted by Pelosi as Agreed, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 6 23:05:29 2009. I just do not understand why every obama-bill has such an urgency attached to it. So what if everyone was given 30 days instead of 3? Will that make the bill any less effective? I don't trust obama's tactics - especially in light of all the back-peddling on the stimulus results. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:33:09 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 6 22:44:27 2009. The 1990-page bill has been available for a much longer time. I even posted the link here at the time. This 72 hour thing has to do with about 40 pages worth of amendments. Can these GOP congresspeople get through 40 pages in 72 hours or are they that stupid? |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:35:32 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:33:09 2009. Glenn Beck's having his appendix out, so looks like it's gonna have to wait until Monday when he's back on the air and can explain it to them. :) |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 00:38:16 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 7 00:33:09 2009. Can theseWe are talking about a predominantly democratic body, are we not? But I see your point. The democrats need not read or understand this bill. They just have to vote for it. Strange, though, since last Tuesday, how so many of then are not so sure any more. As one person said last night, "If they had the votes, they would have voted on the bill." |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:20:35 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:35:32 2009. Beck. Rush. Both were off the airwaves today. Rush has balls for taking days off during November ratings. He's a great man. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:24:19 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:20:35 2009. Looks like BOTH of them had medical problems after losing NY-23. Heh. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:29:36 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:24:19 2009. Don't worry. When Rubio wins Florida, you won't be so cocky. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:33:44 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:29:36 2009. Heh. I could give a crap ... it's FLORIDA. :)They're every bit as entitled to what THEY want as the folks who live upstate in here. But then again, maybe we should send some cows, skunks and crows down there to stir things up. Heh. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:38:12 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:33:44 2009. ok. but understand, Rush, Ingraham, etc.......are pushing for Marco Rubio. Florida Gov will probably be the last time I vote in the state, before moving back north. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:45:07 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:38:12 2009. As we say at the fire house on election day, pull a few levers and have a few beers. :)But wouldn't you agree that local voters have the right to pick who THEY want and not who Rush, Ingraham, etc want? I mean how would Florida like it if Olbermann pushed his choice on them? I mean, aside from Key West and West Palm. :) |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:48:17 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:45:07 2009. well, Rush and Ingraham can say what they want. the local voters still decide, as they did in NY-23. |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 01:53:48 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 7 01:48:17 2009. What fouled the election for the GOP upstate was that they sent in Texas, Georgia, and the teabaggers. That went over like sending in Queens into West Palm ... really didn't go over well. Then Hoffman SPOKE. Heh. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 7 19:53:03 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 00:35:32 2009. Ouch! Hopefully, he can have a laproscopy (sp?) like I did 2 years ago. Much shorter recovery time :) |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 7 20:16:38 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 7 19:53:03 2009. Sure hope his doctor's a republican. :) |
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Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 21:37:15 2009, in response to Re: House Bill Has Been Not Been Posted by Pelosi In It's Final Version, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 7 19:53:03 2009. Better ask Nancy PeLOUSY. |
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