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Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 22:18:41 2009

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Tension in Camp Bloomberg?

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Nov 3 22:21:43 2009, in response to Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 22:18:41 2009.

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This happens when a facist Mayor who thinks he can change the rules of democracy then becomes the most annoying public figure in all facets of the media. . .TV, radio, newspaper, and the internet.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 22:22:58 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Nov 3 22:21:43 2009.

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This is beginning to remind me of the Simpsons episode where Bart runs for class president against Martin. Everyone supported Bart and none of them felt the need to cast their votes, which allowed Martin to win one vote to none.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 3 22:23:07 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Nov 3 22:21:43 2009.

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I told you people over and over that Bloomberg can be beat. Too many people in NY gave up and said "He's going to buy the race". If the race was this close, it shows Bloomberg could've been defeated.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Nov 3 22:25:31 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 3 22:23:07 2009.

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And the next best opponent is no better than Dinkins.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Tue Nov 3 22:35:26 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 3 22:23:07 2009.

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Well, if an upset occurs, it won't be due to anything that Thompson did. Particularly since Billy's been pretty ineffective in his campaigning since minute one (with next to no help from his own party.)

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 22:39:40 2009, in response to Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 22:18:41 2009.

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It was closer before, it was at about 2000 votes at one point, it has spreadt out again to about 30,000 votes in Blooberg's favor. I think there must have been some heavily Democratic sections of the city in that pushed it so close for a while, but it's been spreading out again.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 22:40:47 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Nov 3 22:25:31 2009.

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That's the real problem, it's either keep Bloomberg, or have a substandard mayor. I would have chosen the former if I could still vote in NYC.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 22:41:43 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Tue Nov 3 22:35:26 2009.

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However, why was this election so close?

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 3 22:45:05 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 22:22:58 2009.

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Two to none. One other person voted for Martin.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Tue Nov 3 22:45:41 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 22:41:43 2009.

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My guess: Bloomberg's not as popular as he thinks he is, or has been made out to be as per the various polls that showed him well ahead of Thompson over the past couple of weeks. We have to see the breakdown of voting results by borough to really get a gauge of what's going on. It's a safe bet that Bloomberg will carry Staten Island, as it's gone Republican for years. Outside of that is where things get interesting.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 3 22:46:28 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 22:41:43 2009.

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For the reasons I said a month ago when I said Bloomberg can be defeated.

NYC is not the same city it was back in 2001 when Bloomberg won. The demos and attitudes have changed in favor Thompson winning. Many will regret no voting.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 3 23:26:25 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 3 22:23:07 2009.

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The race wasn't that close. Fox had it 51% to 46%

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 23:31:02 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 3 23:26:25 2009.

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It was much closer for a time, it was 49-48, and about a 2000 vote gap at one point, that's when he probably made that post.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 23:33:32 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 23:31:02 2009.

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Actually, try 48.72 to 48.02 at the time of the OP. Bloomberg should have won this by 50.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 23:40:07 2009, in response to Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 22:18:41 2009.

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Bloomberg would've lost if not for the insane amount of money he spent - and against a no-name candidate.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 23:40:49 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 23:33:32 2009.

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That must have been the point where I said, "wow"....but then right after that, it spread out quick, presumably when perhaps Staten Island or something got thrown in, all of a sudden the gap spread way out again.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Nov 3 23:41:20 2009, in response to Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 22:18:41 2009.

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Mayor

Michael Bloomberg (GOP) 555254 50.60%
William Thompson (Dem) 505452 46.06%
Stephen Christopher (Con) 18163 1.66%
Billy Talen (Grn) 8927 0.81%
Francisca Villar (PSL) 3515 0.32%
Jimmy McMillan (Oth) 2614 0.24%
Joseph Dobrian (Lib) 1998 0.18%
Daniel Fein (SWP) 1490 0.14%
Reporting: 6095 of 6110 precincts - 99.75 percent


There is a (slight) possibility Bloomberg might end up losing the election.
But even if he wins, it ought to prove to him alot of people didn't like his campaigning. Or give him 2nd thoughts about his 3rd administration. Not to mention it will affect whoever he backs in the 2013 election.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 3 23:45:51 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Nov 3 23:41:20 2009.

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Attack the problem with money.

That what Bloomberg did.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 23:56:45 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Nov 3 23:41:20 2009.

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Interesting that the Conservative got 18,000 votes. Not enough to bridge the 50,000 that spreads Thompson and Bloomberg, but still it says something. It looks like it's people on the right that split off from Bloomberg to an extent.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 4 00:06:07 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 23:56:45 2009.

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Of course - he is no conservative.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 00:06:08 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 23:56:45 2009.

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No question Bloomberg won.
I just hope he realises it will make his next 4 year term a bit more difficult. He didn't get a mandate. But a realization he overstayed his welcome. Also he'll be a liability for whoever he decides to back in 2013.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 00:10:44 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 23:56:45 2009.

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18,000 in a city of HOW many million? Heh.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 00:14:10 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 4 00:06:07 2009.

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Yes, as I said the other day, he is not a Republican either.


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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 00:15:06 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 00:10:44 2009.

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I know.... but No, it was just curious. None of the other candidates came close to "that many" votes.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 00:19:55 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 00:10:44 2009.

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Question should read: 18,000 in a city of HOW many who voted? Heh!

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 00:21:51 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 00:15:06 2009.

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I put the names down so that years from now when someplays Trival Pursuit they might remember who else ran for NYC Mayor in 2009.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 4 00:37:27 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 00:14:10 2009.

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Yes. CNN had him as an independent. However Fox had him as a Republican.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 00:43:18 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 00:15:06 2009.

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Meanwhile, the national teabaggers hooked their oxcart to the very SAME party and kicked out their own expecting to win a district they've held since 1856 ... heh.



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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 4 00:47:29 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 4 00:37:27 2009.

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Gotta take those winners any way you can ... and we're snickering up here over their unbounded joy in now owning ... (drum roll, please) ... New Jersey! :)

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Nov 4 01:15:06 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 22:41:43 2009.

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Bloomberg had a near monopoly of radio and direct mail advertising. The advertising unfairly attacked Thomson, who was forced to take it because he had no money to mount a reply. The magnitude and tenor of Bloomberg's campaign gave the impression that he was a bully hitting a defenseless person. The Bloomberg campaign reinforced this by doing more of the same.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 01:20:08 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 22:41:43 2009.

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Bloomberg thought he could win/buy/steal the election by spending his own money on the campaigning.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 01:21:47 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 01:20:08 2009.

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it will be interesting to see how asians voted. bloomie probably got 80% or more of that demo.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 01:25:35 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 01:21:47 2009.

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When Bloomberg won he likely doesn't care (too much) how anyone voted.

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NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Wed Nov 4 01:45:24 2009, in response to Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 22:18:41 2009.

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Note that the breakdown is by NYS Assembly Districts.

2009 Election Results

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Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Wed Nov 4 02:01:11 2009, in response to NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Wed Nov 4 01:45:24 2009.

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And I should've added that the City Council will be welcoming 2 new Republicans into their ranks this coming January, on top of the two that are already there. Both will represent districts in NE Queens: Daniel Halloran III - District 19 (formerly rep'd by Tony Avella), and Peter Koo - District 20 (formerly rep'd by John Liu).

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Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 02:50:23 2009, in response to Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Wed Nov 4 02:01:11 2009.

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Plus, the Republicans shocked everyone out in Nassau County.

So did you vote for Bloomberg?

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 4 06:45:10 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 3 22:23:07 2009.

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Bloomberg is gonna have a rough third term. He's gonna wish he hadn't run. Third terms are usually a disaster for NYC mayors.
It was one of the reasons why term limits were originally devised to begin with.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 4 06:50:29 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Nov 3 23:41:20 2009.

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How much did the guy from the Rent is Too Damned High Party get?

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Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 4 06:53:14 2009, in response to NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Wed Nov 4 01:45:24 2009.

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It's weird seeing that Morgenthau will no longer be Manhattan DA.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:11:08 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 01:20:08 2009.

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Apparently he did though.

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Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 07:17:39 2009, in response to Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 4 06:53:14 2009.

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The end of an ERA.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 07:36:34 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 4 06:50:29 2009.

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Look it up on NY1.com or dailynews.com
I've no idea which of the 6 was from that party.

All I know is 6 people got about 3.25% of the total vote.


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Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:37:19 2009, in response to Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Wed Nov 4 02:01:11 2009.

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Wow, Queens is much redder than I thought it was.

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Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:37:59 2009, in response to Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 4 02:50:23 2009.

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What happened in Nassau? I didn't pay attention to any of their races.
Nassau traditionally goes red.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 4 07:38:10 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:11:08 2009.

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He got his victory and that's all that counts!

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Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:39:44 2009, in response to Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:37:19 2009.

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Actually I am surprised about Manhattan too. It's mostly Brooklyn and the Bronx with went for Thompson, and Southeast Queens, which I would also expect to be highly blue.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:49:18 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 4 06:45:10 2009.

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I can probably agree with that, he could have left on a good note like Guiliani did. However, I didn't see any real competition that would have been "as good" as him coming to plate. Thompson would have been a disaster.
If there was someone good to replace him, I would agree with you.

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Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 4 08:07:32 2009, in response to Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:49:18 2009.

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Tony Avella would have been good.

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Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson

Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Wed Nov 4 11:14:52 2009, in response to Re: NYT - Mayoral Vote Breakdown Re: Holy crap: Bloomberg BARELY ahead of Thompson, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 4 07:37:59 2009.

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Traditionally, yes. However, there's been some "blue creep" there since they had that big budget crisis under Gulotta. What happened last night was that Suozzi barely held onto his seat as County Executive, while the Democratic line lost the races for County Clerk and Comptroller, and failed to get a majority in the county legislature.

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