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Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:44:02 2009 Voters split over whom to blame for current economic woesAs time passes, so will the ability to blame Bush. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:49:08 2009, in response to Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:44:02 2009. For the "But it's Rasmussen" bunch:CNN: 54% disapprove of Obama's performance on the economy, 57% on healthcare |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 12:16:44 2009, in response to Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:44:02 2009. It gets very old when an official doesn't take any responsibility for their actions. It works for a few months perhaps, but people see through it after a while and see through the BS.Independents are what got Obama elected, and it's Independents that are the ones that he loses first. The Right is never going to accept Obama, and the left will never waiver from Obama, it's the people that got him elected that he has to watch out for. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 12:24:54 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 12:16:44 2009. America's future is based on the whims of about 12% of the electorate who routinely cross party lines. That's why politics has gotten so intense in recent years, it's all about convincing this wishy-washy middle to vote for them. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 12:33:49 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 12:24:54 2009. Yup, and it's the Independents making the noise in this years election too....which is relatively off year, but gives a sample of what is to come next year. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 14:57:42 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 12:24:54 2009. Which makes you wonder about all the name calling. The best way to get an independent to vote for the Democrats is to call Obama a Nazi a few hundred times. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 15:26:48 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 14:57:42 2009. And the best way to sway away the Independents to vote for the Republicans is to call anyone that doesn't agree with Pelosi or Obama, "nuts" and Nazis a few hundred times. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 15:44:01 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 15:26:48 2009. No, "nuts" is standard politics. I don't mind someone calling Obama (or Bush for the prior 8 years) nuts. I do mind people who call Obama (or called Bush) a Nazi. So do many of those 12%. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 15:48:33 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 15:44:01 2009. So do I. I haven't seen many people aside from extremists calling Obama "Nazis", but have seen many mainstream people calling Bush and the GOP "Nazis", even among the seemingly more sane people right here on SubChat as a small sample. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 15:54:29 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 15:48:33 2009. I haven't seen many people aside from extremists calling Obama "Nazis"You're leading a sheltered life. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 16:06:52 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 15:54:29 2009. He's right, most of the "Obama is a Nazi" stuff is coming from the radicals, especially the leftist LaRouche douches.Don't confuse a conservative comparing Obama's policies to fascism as the same thing. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 3 16:09:30 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:49:08 2009. Heh. Did they fact-check the poll questions with Saturday Night Live to ensure "fair and balanced?" :) |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 16:09:51 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 16:06:52 2009. Exactly.And at the same time, he doesn't see the supposedly "moderate" Democrats calling Bush a Nazi, and anyone that disagrees with Obama's policies "Nazis". |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 16:14:37 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:49:08 2009. It's only been a few weeks since Obama started his war on the media, and already a few of his faithful servants have returned the favor, and finally have gone against him....even NPR has called him out on this nonsense. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 16:17:51 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 16:06:52 2009. You're leading a sheltered life too. I hear lots of people who have nothing to do with LaRouche calling Obama a Nazi. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 16:20:07 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 16:17:51 2009. Perhaps it's you that hang out with radicals then. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 3 16:37:52 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 16:20:07 2009. Well, it's true, I do occasionally hang out (at least electronically) with some fairly extreme right wingers. They're remarkably reasonable people as long as the topic isn't politics. |
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Re: Official: 58% Blame Bush for Bad Economy. 18% Blame Obama |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 3 16:44:57 2009, in response to Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:44:02 2009. Bullshit Poll. Here's the real poll from none other then Fox News:Here’s a somewhat surprising result from the new Fox News poll. Asked which president is “more responsible for the current state of the economy,” only 18 percent say President Obama. Fifty-eight percent say former President George W. Bush. Nine percent blame both of them. Republicans are the only subgroup of voters who blame Obama, and only by a six-point margin of 35 percent to 29 percent. What’s striking about this is that the numbers have only marginally gotten worse for President Obama in the three months since Fox News last asked this question. In July, it was 16 percent who blamed Obama and 61 percent who blamed Bush. That is, needless to say, not what Fox News viewers hear when they tune into the network. But it’s essential to understanding why the president remains popular and why Republicans are failing to really capitalize on economic gloom. Most Blame Bush for Economy |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 3 16:48:09 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 16:06:52 2009. Don't confuse a conservative comparing Obama's policies to fascism as the same thing.Obama is a right-wing nationalist white supremacist? |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 16:51:05 2009, in response to Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:44:02 2009. 'As time passes, so will the ability to blame Bush. 'It will ALWAYS be possible and appropriate to blame Bush for getting us into this mess - because it started on his watch. The most Obama could be blamed for is failing to get us out of it - and only if he does so fail. The jury is still out on that one. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 16:52:12 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 3 16:48:09 2009. Shows their ignorance of history. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 3 16:57:03 2009, in response to Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:44:02 2009. dangit, that was the plan for at least the next 6 elections. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 3 17:11:22 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 16:52:12 2009. Shows their ignorance of history.and yet he proclaims himself a history buff. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 3 17:12:17 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 3 17:11:22 2009. He is!
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 3 17:13:16 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 16:51:05 2009. Nah ... Hoover's already been reformed. Listen to the crankshafts and the whole depression was entirely Roosevelt's fault. :-\ |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Nov 3 18:04:08 2009, in response to Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:44:02 2009. Obama won't be able to blame Bush forever. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 18:33:27 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Nov 3 18:04:08 2009. Many here think he can. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 3 18:45:53 2009, in response to Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 11:44:02 2009. how much time? |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 3 18:49:05 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 3 18:45:53 2009. Most reputable sources are stating sometime within the next 39 - 263 days depending on the circumstances at the time. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 3 18:49:19 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 3 17:12:17 2009. LOL |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 3 18:54:33 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 3 18:49:05 2009. False.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 18:58:13 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 18:33:27 2009. Not me. I posted this earlier:'As time passes, so will the ability to blame Bush. ' It will ALWAYS be possible and appropriate to blame Bush for getting us into this mess - because it started on his watch. The most Obama could be blamed for is failing to get us out of it - and only if he does so fail. The jury is still out on that one. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 3 19:32:50 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 18:58:13 2009. It took long enough for Republicans to stop blaming Clinton for 9/11. And by long enough I mean never. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 19:35:46 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 3 16:48:09 2009. Fascism has no definition which limits it's believers to being of a certain race, creed or gender. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Nov 3 19:42:30 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 3 16:48:09 2009. No, he is a left wing unntationalist black supremacist. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 19:45:04 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 18:58:13 2009. It will ALWAYS be possible and appropriate to blame Bush for getting us into this mess - because it started on his watch.And it's getting progressively worse under Obama. Even if every American accepts it's Bush's fault, how does that help Obama? Obama blamed Bush era policies, those policies are now gone, yet things are getting worse. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Nov 3 19:48:57 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 18:58:13 2009. The running faucet under Bush became a damn burst under Obama . |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 3 20:06:00 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 3 18:54:33 2009. i agree with you on thisthx ,.. salaamallah |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 3 20:19:19 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 3 20:06:00 2009. LOL, I'm joking though.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 3 20:23:16 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 3 20:19:19 2009. me 2.......... ! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 3 21:32:14 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by R143 on Tue Nov 3 19:48:57 2009. I think you mean a "dam" burst, but point taken. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 23:43:05 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 19:45:04 2009. Proof things are getting worse? Examples? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 3 23:54:37 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 19:45:04 2009. Bull..Bush and Company put us in a hole so damn deep..its gonna take YEARS to crawl out of... There are NO QUICK FIXES for this...and you know it...so you grab hold of that..try to blamE the person leading the charge of FIXING the PROBLEM...as the CAUSE of the CONTINUED PROBLEM. Who the HELL do you think we are..ALL KINDS OF STUPID? When You folks pull you foot out of your asses long enough to understand what is TRULY going on...then you can talk. UNTILL than..go spend some money like MAYOR MIKE..and BUY your way of of the shit house...like HE DID.. |
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Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 4 05:17:13 2009, in response to Re: Official: blaming Bush doesn't work, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 19:35:46 2009. Fascism has no definitionIf it has no definition then explain this statement of yours: Don't confuse a conservative comparing Obama's policies to fascism as the same thing |
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