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Re: Frank Rich doesn't gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by docstox on Sun Nov 1 17:31:37 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich doesn't gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Sun Nov 1 17:21:03 2009.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/business/01auto.html?partner=yahoofinance

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Re: Score one for the tea partiers

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 1 17:54:07 2009, in response to Re: Score one for the tea partiers, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 1 12:11:11 2009.

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Heh. Hate to break it to you but when I was in school in Maryland, we learned that Maryland was on OUR side. :)

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Re: Score one for the tea partiers

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 1 17:58:40 2009, in response to Re: Score one for the tea partiers, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 1 12:11:11 2009.

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True, but when the party was integrated the racists left and became Republicans. It was called the Southern Strategy.

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Re: Frank Rich doesn't gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 1 18:09:55 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich doesn't gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SMAZ on Sun Nov 1 16:57:10 2009.

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Ya gotta love a political party that had the entire enchilada, and for a finale, pulled the pin out of the grenade and ATE it. :)

But as our chirpers here keep telling us, PURITY OF ESSENCE ... OK.

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Re: Score one for the tea partiers

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 1 18:15:04 2009, in response to Re: Score one for the tea partiers, posted by SMAZ on Sun Nov 1 17:09:10 2009.

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Ouch! A Calico ... John Ashcroft will want to talk to YOU ...



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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 1 18:22:16 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Sun Nov 1 17:11:07 2009.

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The trend during Ford's administration had been halted. It had reversed in the first year of Carter, but made very little headroom over the duration other than it didn't get worse. Inflation and interest rates had been out of hand since Nixon, and we went back into a major recession once Reagan came in as well ... Carter DID make a slight dent in it, the only one who had managed into 1980.

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 05:51:21 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 1 18:22:16 2009.

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Apparantly not enough of a "dent" to get him elected again, LOL!

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 2 11:54:31 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 05:51:21 2009.

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Hey don't blame me, I voted for Ford.

your pal,
WIN

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 13:52:51 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 05:51:21 2009.

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Fred, no one blames anybody for voting for Carter.I have nothing against the man, he is a good person.He made some bad foreign policy decisions and the economy turned sour as well.Presidents are the victims or the beneficiaries of Federal Reserve interest rate policy.

I remember Ford wearing that Whip Inflation Now button.It didn't do any good as inflation took off after he left office.

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 16:08:46 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 13:52:51 2009.

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Ford's "WIN Football" was even funnier. :)

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 16:10:23 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 05:51:21 2009.

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True ... at the time, I wasn't at all fond of him either. On the radio station I owned at the time, we did several station ID's with calliope music and "Mister Peanut" jokes ... :)

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 17:53:22 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 16:10:23 2009.

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Were there any "Billy Beer" bits on the station back then?

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 18:05:45 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 17:53:22 2009.

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Heh. Sure was! We had a local beer distributor bring in the stuff which we did as prizes for our listeners. And of course we made hay out of the connection with a few ID's. Dunno if you ever tried the stuff, but it was the worst swill EVER. The plant which made it now makes Miller, Fosters Lager and other swills.

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 18:13:07 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 18:05:45 2009.

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Never tried it and glad I didn't after what you say.Still, I wish I had a few cans just for the memoribilia.Billy was a hoot!

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 2 18:35:54 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 13:52:51 2009.

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Oh I was joking in general but seriously I never did vote for Carter.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 18:35:54 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 18:13:07 2009.

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Actually, I would have preferred to collect THIS ... :)



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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 18:57:51 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 2 18:35:54 2009.

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I voted for Carter in 1976, and voted for John Anderson in 1980. It's all MY fault. :)

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Re: Frank Rich doesn't gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 2 19:12:45 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich doesn't gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 1 12:05:02 2009.

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Anyone who knows Pataki knows that, except on the environment, he is almost to the right of Atilla the Hun.

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Nov 2 19:17:23 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 16:10:23 2009.

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Re: Frank Rich doesn't gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 19:39:01 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich doesn't gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 1 12:05:02 2009.

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 19:39:42 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Nov 2 19:17:23 2009.

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Heh. :)

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Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 2 19:47:09 2009, in response to Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 31 23:47:11 2009.

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When the hacks at Libruls-R-Us point out your hypocrisy, it's time to quit:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/third-party-challenger-stalinist

Frank Rich really lit into the Republican Party yesterday:

- a riotous and bloody national G.O.P. civil war.

- a G.O.P. killing field

- confirms just how swiftly the right has devolved into a wacky, paranoid cult that is as eager to eat its own as it is to destroy Obama

- would gladly see the Republican Party die on the cross of right-wing ideological purity

- To the right’s Jacobins, that’s cause to send her to the guillotine.

- The wrecking crew of Kristol, Fred Thompson, Dick Armey, Michele Bachmann, The Wall Street Journal editorial page and the government-bashing Club for Growth all joined the Hoffman putsch

- the Stalinists of the right

Wow, that's a lot of harsh metaphors. What is the basis of this bloody, paranoid, martyr-seeking, Jacobin, Stalinist putsch? Well, I'll let Rich describe it:

- The New York fracas was ignited by the routine decision of 11 local Republican county chairmen to anoint an assemblywoman, Dede Scozzafava, as their party’s nominee for the vacant seat. The 23rd is in safe Republican territory that hasn’t sent a Democrat to Congress in decades. And Scozzafava is a mainstream conservative by New York standards; one statistical measure found her voting record slightly to the right of her fellow Republicans in the Assembly. But she has occasionally strayed from orthodoxy on social issues (abortion, same-sex marriage) and endorsed the Obama stimulus package.

So wait. Some GOP hacks appointed a relative moderate to represent a district that could probably sustain a much more conservative representative, and conservatives are trying to elect a more right-wing alternative. What exactly is the problem here? Rich paints Scozzafava's heresies as minor. But suppose this was a solidly Democratic district, and party bosses put forward an anti-stimulus, anti-abortion, anti-gay rights nominee. Would Rich really oppose a liberal campaign to elect a more like-minded representative? Would he employ such virtiolic metaphors? There's a lesson here about making a moral cause out of a procedural argument you're not prepared to back in opposite circumstances.

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 20:00:15 2009, in response to Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 2 19:47:09 2009.

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New Republic isn't what it once was. It was sold to CanWest (Canada) in March, and CanWest is now in bankruptcy as of last month. Controlling interest and editorial control of New Republic is currently in the hands of the Fraser Institute, a libertarian think tank. Check out "Fraser Institute" ... so this editorial is no surprise actually. :)

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 20:27:23 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 18:35:54 2009.

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Great! I can see that on a siding to a brewery on a layout!

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 2 20:32:28 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 20:00:15 2009.

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TNR is still a bastion of liberal ideology, at least on domestic issues. They have always been hawkish on foreign policy, especially during the Cold War. It's not as bad as The Nation, or Mother Jones. But they rarely take such direct shots at a liberal NYT icon like Rich.

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 2 20:37:33 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 20:00:15 2009.

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Meh, more conspiracy theories. Nothing like EU-think to brighten the evening . . . TNR's still very leftward.

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 2 20:40:21 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 2 20:37:33 2009.

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Is Michael Kinsley still running things over there?

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 2 20:54:03 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 2 20:40:21 2009.

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Not as editor, if that's what you mean.

And SellKommunism's behind the times; CanWest hasn't owned TNR since March of this year (Martin Peretz bought it back).

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 22:28:45 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 20:27:23 2009.

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I'd run a bunch of them in a consist along with my tanker cars of cheap white wine. :)

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 22:30:51 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 2 20:32:28 2009.

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Good God ... Mother Jones is still around?!?! Heh. Well ... FWIW, TNR isn't the same TNR it was a couple of months ago any longer. Sorta like WSJ which has now turned into a comic book. :)

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 22:32:45 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 2 20:54:03 2009.

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Check your facts ...

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 2 22:36:10 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 22:30:51 2009.

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Good God ... Mother Jones is still around?!?!

And it's still a kick-ass publication! Perhaps the last bastion of great investigative reporting and real journalism.

Mother Jones

I was just about to post the Cheney story off of Yahoo but it looks like MJ has it too.

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 22:41:56 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 2 22:36:10 2009.

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Heh. Just went for shits and giggles and found that High Times is still there too ... whatta country! :)

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 3 04:09:52 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 18:57:51 2009.

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Ha, I voted for Anderson, too.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 3 04:35:15 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 3 04:09:52 2009.

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Heh. PROFF that a third party will never cut it. :(

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by docstox on Tue Nov 3 06:40:08 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 22:28:45 2009.

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Hilarious! That certain aire of subway fare train!

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by docstox on Tue Nov 3 06:43:53 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 3 04:35:15 2009.

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Yeah, just watch how Daggett does in Jersey today.

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 3 10:51:43 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Mon Nov 2 17:53:22 2009.

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Billy Beer! We elected the wrong Carter.

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 3 16:18:05 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 3 10:51:43 2009.

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Heh. Obviously, you've never tasted that swill. Billy should have done hard time for that crap. :)

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Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 3 16:23:06 2009, in response to Re: Frank Rich gets it. Heh (Re: Score one for the tea partiers), posted by docstox on Tue Nov 3 06:43:53 2009.

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He might get Perot numbers. :)

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Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 3 16:42:17 2009, in response to Re: Even the folks at The New Republic say Frank Rich is an idiot, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 2 20:00:15 2009.

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TNR lost its liberal street cred years ago.

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