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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009 US Airways jet down in Hudson River... |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 15 15:49:34 2009, in response to Accident, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009. Looks like it might be taking on water. At least there are boats around the plane . . . |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 15:52:51 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 15 15:49:34 2009. Fuck. I can't believe this. All the times I rant and rave about flying, and this happens. Every time I schedule a flight on Jetblue, a plane crashes. Last time, it was Continental, now it's this. I was supposed to fly Jetblue flight 21 on Tuesday and wimped out. Amtrak just asked for $500 for a sleeper to Tampa. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:53:21 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 15 15:49:34 2009. Thanks for correction to Subject Line... |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 15:54:52 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 15:52:51 2009. Plane sucked up a flock of geese and ditched in the Hudson. And to think we were just posting about US aviation's stellar safety record. It was Unca Selkirk who said the law of averages was gonna catch up... |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 15:56:59 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 15:54:52 2009. The tail is noticeably lower in the water now. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 15 15:58:59 2009, in response to Accident, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009. I keep hearing fire enginers and other emergency vehicles. I must be very close to the crash site.Say a prayer everyone! |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Jan 15 15:59:41 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 15 15:49:34 2009. I could see it from my office window. Lots of ferries around. For a time we could see some of the plane on the surface but I don't see it any more. Dozens of police cars on the west side |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:00:15 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 15:56:59 2009. It's literally sinking on tv. I hope everyone got out, but it does not appear to be the case. Just a bunch of boats around watching it sink. There were people on the wings.We all knew that if something was going to happen, it would be one of the dangerous NY airports. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 15 16:00:21 2009, in response to Accident, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009. The crash site is near West 57th Street. |
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STORY: (Re; US Airways Accident) |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 15 16:03:33 2009, in response to Accident, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009. Story here |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:08:07 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:00:15 2009. The airports aren't "dangerous" in and of themselves. This was a multiple bird strike and the plane's engines got seriously fouled. Looks like a dead-stick ditching into the Hudson. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:13:02 2009, in response to Accident, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009. The plane is now moving south with the river current. Thank God there aren't any of those huge icebergs in the Hudson, which are so common this time of year. as it is the water temps are in the high 30s... |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:13:32 2009, in response to Accident, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009. Holy shit, the current is actually pulling the plane downstream. Boats are following. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Thu Jan 15 16:14:04 2009, in response to Accident, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009. Amazing rescue effort. God was smiling on these people. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:15:58 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:13:02 2009. Man. They are not saying anything about survivors. You'd think they'd have one or two people calling from a rescuers cell to let their loved ones know they are ok. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:16:17 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by R PansePCC on Thu Jan 15 16:14:04 2009. God smiles on the professionals. Very difficult rescue because of the cold and the four-knot current of the Hudson. They are doing a fantastic job. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 15 16:17:01 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by R PansePCC on Thu Jan 15 16:14:04 2009. Have to assume an incredible job by the pilot as well. I'm sure they train for these things -- losing your engines, water landings -- but to pull it off under pressure is another thing entirely.Someone said everyone was off safely. I hope that's the case. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 15 16:17:12 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 15:52:51 2009. Every time I schedule a flight on Jetblue, a plane crashes.Every time you drive your car, many cars crash, and many people die. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:18:02 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:15:58 2009. They won't release survivor info until the hospitals start actually receiving patients. So far, patients are going to St. Lukes, Roosevelt, and Weehawken, NJ hospitals. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:26:07 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:00:15 2009. Everyone got out safely within seconds. It was a controlled landing, as he knew it was going down. They got everyone out quick. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:26:54 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Jan 15 15:59:41 2009. I think just the nose is up yet. The people are out though. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jan 15 16:27:01 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 15 16:17:01 2009. Some reports say that the pilot wanted to make an emergency landing at Teterboro Airport but realized he couldn't make it that far.My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Jan 15 16:27:38 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:26:54 2009. Yes, I can see that now. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:27:40 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:15:58 2009. Everyone got out. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:28:29 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by R PansePCC on Thu Jan 15 16:14:04 2009. Yes, the whole thing happended very professionally. This could have easily been a tragedy. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jan 15 16:29:09 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:26:07 2009. Just last night, when I saw a man at the gym wearing a FNDY Marine Unit T-shirt (probably just a souvenir thing), I wondered to myself what sort of work the fireboats do these days. Guess this answers my question.My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:29:15 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Jan 15 16:27:38 2009. There was some good live film at FoxNews and CNN. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:30:03 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jan 15 16:29:09 2009. I can't believe how quick they got everyone out. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:31:19 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:30:03 2009. Continental. US Airways. Next time, the passengers won't be so lucky. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:31:57 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:31:19 2009. Okay. |
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GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Jan 15 16:36:21 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 15 15:49:34 2009. Preliminary report |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jan 15 16:36:56 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:30:03 2009. I suppose the flight crew noticed what was going on and instructed the passengers accordingly. Kudos to the flight crew and the passengers in the exit row seats. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:37:15 2009, in response to Accident, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 15:46:24 2009. It will be fascinating to see if they can keep the aircraft from sinking to the bottom of the Hudson. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 15 16:38:28 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:30:03 2009. Ferryboats got on the scene very quickly, faster than even the fireboats from what I saw of the live footage.Sounds like it was a very well executed evacuation and landing. |
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Re: GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 15 16:40:03 2009, in response to GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued, posted by WayneJay on Thu Jan 15 16:36:21 2009. U.S. Airways Crash Rescue Picture |
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Re: GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:40:18 2009, in response to GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued, posted by WayneJay on Thu Jan 15 16:36:21 2009. But what are they going to do now? They need chicken wire on the engines so birds can't get in there. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 15 16:40:38 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 15 16:38:28 2009. Well the ferryboats were probably a lot closer at the time... |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:40:54 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:37:15 2009. I hope it sinks. Otherwise, they'll try to dry it out and use it again. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:43:07 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:31:57 2009. Sad but true. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:45:34 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:40:54 2009. I highly doubt that. The aircraft will probably be a total loss. The insurance company will write it off. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 15 16:51:13 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:40:54 2009. Uh, no. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 16:58:30 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:08:07 2009. Dead stick? Not likely. Unless both engines were "seized" as opposed to "windmilling" both hydraulic and electrical systems were probably operating allowing for a controlled ditching. Furthermore, the A320 has a RAT (Ram Air Turbine) that automatically deploys or can be manually deployed and the APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) can also be deployed both of which will power the necessary systems.I hesitate to comment further other than to say that time, or lack thereof, was the overriding issue/concern. Thankfully, preliminary reports from the FAA say all souls on board escaped. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 15 16:59:32 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:40:54 2009. Yep, that's what the hangars are for :Dyour pal, Fred |
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Re: GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 17:01:29 2009, in response to Re: GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:40:18 2009. Yes, chicken wire. This is a good suggestion whose time has come. |
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Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 17:01:29 2009, in response to Re: US Airways Accident (crashed in Hudson River), posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 16:58:30 2009. OK. Thank you for the excellent exposition of the tech issues! |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 15 17:01:50 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 15 16:45:34 2009. Of course. Luch doesn't know what he's talking about. Anyone who irrationally prefers driving over flying and won't admit that driving is dangerous too should not be believed for much. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 17:03:24 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 16:40:54 2009. Another quality observation. |
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Re: Accident |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 17:06:49 2009, in response to Re: Accident, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 15 17:01:50 2009. Just the other night, I was exiting the 59th Street bridge in Queens at 21st. I'm in the left lane at the red light to go south. Right is permitted on red. Some low life NYC piece of garbage gets impatient behind me, so he goes in the right lane, blows the red light to turn left, and nearly had a head-on. But that's NY, home of all the low-life, third-world, garbage that does stunts like this. So you don't have to tell me about the dangers of driving. But to say I'm irrational after today's crash, and Continental in Denver, makes you look so wrong. |
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Re: GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 15 17:07:55 2009, in response to Re: GOOD NEWS: FAA reports all passengers/crew safely rescued, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 15 17:01:29 2009. With some kind of wiring, nothing would've entered the engines. |
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