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Re: Salaam Allah is a bigot who needs to learn value of work |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 17:47:36 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 9 17:41:42 2008. "well then you are against most of good god fearing loving black and latinos here in california !!"A lot of good blacks and latinos have jobs, take care of their children and respect other people's rights. You are unemployed, you trespass on transit property and have no responsibilities beyond your camera. So what do you know about "God fearing" anybody? "we are not the land of fruits and nuts" Well, in the first place California grows lots of fruits and nuts that we enjoy in our supermarkets. If you are using those terms to label other people, then any hope of rational discussion with you is lost. "so i am on the side of god" But you don't know what God wants. You only think you know what you are afraid of. You are responsible for your own attitude and deprivation. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 17:49:58 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 17:24:13 2008. Wow. That's a great vid. I'm starting to respect you. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 17:52:46 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 8 17:24:13 2008. The clerics in the videos are hypocrite scumbags. They are worthless pieces of garbage. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 17:56:19 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 17:52:46 2008. Why do gays want to call their bond a "marriage"? Can't they come up with another name? Gays are said to be creative, so they should have no problem coming up with a name for same-sex marriage, without offending heterosexuals in the process. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:04:36 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 15:16:20 2008. False. They are not defined in the first ten amendments. All the Bill of Rights does is prevent Congress (and via the 14th Amendment, the states) from infringing on rights that already exist. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:05:33 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Nov 6 15:43:21 2008. They say that, but I disagree. |
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Re: Salaam Allah is a bigot who needs to learn value of work |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 9 18:06:28 2008, in response to Re: Salaam Allah is a bigot who needs to learn value of work, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 17:47:36 2008. i do know this there are a lot of good people here from any religionshere and they voted the right way on prop 22 and prop 8 what god does the no on prop 8 serve if i might ask you ?? what god supports gay marrage all of faiths are against this freak of nature and wrong we are not afraid we however are on the right side of god on this on right way on prop 22 and prop 8 if i was the only one who would have voted yes on prop 8 I would have done so and i am confortable that this is right and just you are free to disagree if you want You are responsible for your own attitude and deprivation. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:16:34 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 7 20:38:47 2008. At some point, it won't be. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:17:57 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 21:22:49 2008. If he were dead, he wouldn't be capable of being happy. Nice try. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 18:19:13 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 7 23:32:35 2008. No, that's for fucktards like you to think. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 18:22:31 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 17:56:19 2008. Why should they worry about offending heterosexuals? And who says heterosexuals are offended? A moron like you, sure. Buty I'm not offended at all by a gay coupler tying the knot. I'm offended by your attitude. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:23:37 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Fri Nov 7 20:37:39 2008. Like abortion in 1973. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:24:46 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 6 11:28:29 2008. So you feel that the issue at hand in Loving v. Virginia should have been left to the state legislatures? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 18:30:46 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 6 11:28:29 2008. "One can oppose gay marriage and not be a homophobe"By that logic, you can oppose interacial marriage and not be anti-black. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:31:51 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 7 15:11:54 2008. I do. I feel that the right of the child always trumps the right of the potential parent. In the event of a shortage of couples willing to adopt, then I have no problem with expanding the franchise to singles and non-traditional couples. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:32:20 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 18:30:46 2008. Yes, you can be anti-white! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 18:34:46 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 18:22:31 2008. A man and a woman filling out a marriage license appolication should not have to sit there and figure out who is Partner A and Partner B. It's an example of how gays are trying to change things, showing that what they have, is not really marriage after all. It's something else, which is why the applications must be reworded. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 18:35:29 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by appleton on Fri Nov 7 14:43:10 2008. "That document makes what I thought was a very powerful argument that successful, happy, and well adjusted individuals are most likely to come from homes where mother and father love one another, are faithful to one another, and love their children."That argument is correct, but it also extends to same-sex couples, and that is supported by socioal science research. "I found there are a host of scientific studies supporting that notion. They nearly all conclude that individuals raised with both a male and female role model in the family are much more likely to be successful and well adjusted than those raised without such." You are a liar. You have no such proof. You know of no such studies. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 18:37:04 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:32:20 2008. That's true. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Nov 9 18:37:35 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by appleton on Fri Nov 7 14:43:10 2008. Jesus knows if you're lying.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 9 19:12:43 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 17:56:19 2008. Why do gays want to call their bond a "marriage"? Can't they come up with another name?Hmm. How about "civil union"? Surely that must be legal in most states. And surely two people in a "civil union" have the same pension and tax rights as people who partake in that purely religious institution know as "marriage". |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 19:19:16 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 9 19:12:43 2008. That's my point. I think gays should have the same tax and pension and medical coverage rights as married men and women. But gays should understand that what they have is not marriage. It's something else. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 9 19:20:51 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 9 19:12:43 2008. California already had civil unions and still does, but many gays want to be married. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 9 19:27:14 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 9 19:20:51 2008. California already had civil unions and still does, but many gays want to be married.Understood. But those in civil unions aren't allowed to file a joint tax return, and they probably don't get a pension benefit if their partner dies. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 9 19:29:57 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:31:51 2008. I see your point. But my counter-argument would be that there is a huge overlap: probably 60% of the best single parents are better for the kid than the 20% of worst amrried aprents (I'm making these numbers up). So to deny ALL single parents the right to adopt is to disadvantage many kids. I could understand having more stringent rules for singles adopting. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 20:00:19 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 9 19:27:14 2008. At the very least, if the state fixed that, Id consider it progress. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 20:13:23 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 19:19:16 2008. But they don't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 00:32:56 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 13:04:24 2008. Old enough to read, old enough to vote. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 00:35:55 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:45:49 2008. You remember Matthew 21:17? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 00:50:24 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 00:35:55 2008. "And he left them, and went out of the city into Bethany: and he lodged there"? What about it? The verses I quoted are more significant.Would you like it in Greek, too? Και καταλιπον αυτους εξιλθεν εξο της πολεος εις βιθαιναν και ηυλισθη εκει. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 00:51:37 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 00:35:55 2008. "And he left them, and went out of the city into Bethany: and he lodged there"? What about it? The verses I quoted are more significant.Would you like it in Greek, too? Και καταλιπον αυτους εξιλθεν εξο της πολεος εις Βιθαιναν και ηυλισθη εκει. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Nov 10 01:04:31 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 00:51:37 2008. "The verses I quoted are more significant."That's what every third rate demagogue says when he wants his interpretation considered "correct." |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 01:22:04 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Nov 10 01:04:31 2008. Come back when you understand what I was talking about. It's called "following the thread". Don't drop any of your Haldol down the sink, now. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 10 01:23:29 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:45:49 2008. And let's not forget Phelps 1:1 "God hates fags!" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 01:29:35 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 10 01:23:29 2008. Phelps is the lowest common denominator. He may have latent tendencies in that respect. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Nov 10 01:47:25 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 01:22:04 2008. Come back when you know what you're talking about. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Nov 10 01:48:02 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 01:29:35 2008. That's the only sensible thing you've said in this thread. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 02:07:44 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 7 11:38:28 2008. Which was three more fifths than slaves should have been defined as.I'm sure that someone will complain about what I just said, but in that case they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 02:09:00 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 00:51:37 2008. Yeah. Think about it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 02:16:50 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 6 04:07:28 2008. You're wrong here. The legislature isn't involved at all. The initiative is placed on the ballot when it gets enough signatures. The requirement is a number equal to 5% of the voters for governor in the last gubernatorial election. If it's an amendment to the Constitution, then 8% (which is the case here).http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/init_guide.htm |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 02:26:43 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Nov 7 12:06:18 2008. The institutions of a religion should have ABSOLUTELY NO bearing on the laws of a civil government, regardless of how much that offends those same religions. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 02:52:59 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 02:26:43 2008. You need to look into history. The USA is unique compared to other civilizations. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 10 03:29:33 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 10 01:23:29 2008. Phelps 1:2"God loves IEDs" That guy is a douchebag. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 10 07:13:55 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 02:07:44 2008. IAWTP. And to preserve the suspense I won't say why either. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 10 07:45:22 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 11:57:20 2008. Yo, asshole. You are SO very lucky that your only only contact with me is via this hobby forum. You are a pussy trying to be a dawg. What happened, pussy? When you were a kid some park deviant turned you into a dick sucker who swallows...and you spend most of your life trying to justify to yourself why you loved doing that to men?Tell ya what, pussy boy...go fuck yourself. |
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Re: Salaam Allah is a bigot who needs to learn value of work |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Nov 10 08:57:22 2008, in response to Re: Salaam Allah is a bigot who needs to learn value of work, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 9 17:47:36 2008. LIberals eating their own, I love it! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 10 09:34:18 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 7 20:59:16 2008. It is a real problem. While I don't care when which two people want to spend their lives together, or who they want to sleep with, that is all their business, who cares! However, growing up for a child is hard enough without having the added burden of that thrown on top of them. The kid will be teased mercilessly. The kid is starting at a disadvantage. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 10 09:35:58 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 7 21:06:06 2008. Your attitude is your responsibility. Gay couples do not choose a lifestyle - they are living as normally as a straight couple does.Of course, and that is totally true. I think they should be able to share things like health care, and have some sort of civil union. However, I don't feel they should bring a kid into that through adoption. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 10 09:36:47 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 7 21:34:44 2008. I wouldn't care - I'd be dead.That's just great, so you don't care what happens to your children after you are gone. That's just special. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 10 09:38:44 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 18:17:57 2008. Yes, that is true, but you should be worried or at least care what happens to your children in the event you are no longer here. Parenting doesn't end when you are dead, or at least what I mean by that is that you should be responsible enough to want to know that your kids would be okay (and certainly care) in the event you aren't around to raise them. |
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