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Gay protest in LA

Posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:07:30 2008

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Going on right now in Hollywood and WeHo. They are protesting Prop 8 passing.

LAPD has called a tactical alert which is what they do for riots and similar. Streets are being blocked, property being destroyed. Protest started in WeHo, moved to Hollywood and they are currently sashaying back to WeHo.

As some have pointed out they are only preaching to the choir by protesting in those areas. They should take their protest to south central if they really want to get their point across.



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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 02:09:28 2008, in response to Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:07:30 2008.

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ACLU is already suing.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:11:32 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 02:09:28 2008.

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I really don't see this standing for long. Recognizing gay marriage is obviously where we are headed as a state and a country. We could have saved ourselves some trouble and money by passing it.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 6 02:15:28 2008, in response to Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:07:30 2008.

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Think they'll make it back out intact?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:18:53 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 6 02:15:28 2008.

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Yes in the Hollywood area. I'd guess that there would be trouble if they marched in south LA unless it was organized and with police protection. They couldn't just go to the street like this I wouldn't think, but who knows?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:28:07 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 02:09:28 2008.

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They wouldn't be the American Communist Litigation Union if they didn't. What else is new?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 6 02:28:53 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:11:32 2008.

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I still think that it should be put to a vote by all the residents of the state and then if they support then gay marriage = legal. If they oppose it then gay marriage = illegal.
Then they could've avoided this nightmare.

No one judge/governor/etc. should impose their own will on the masses if they don't want it.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 6 02:31:59 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:28:07 2008.

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Yup.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:38:35 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:11:32 2008.

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What do you mean by "where we are headed"? This is not weather we're talking about; it's society. Try asking yourself why things are "headed" that way, and always remember that it's humans influencing it.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 6 02:41:14 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:38:35 2008.

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Eat ALOT of crap and die a VERY slow death,troll boy.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:41:20 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 6 02:28:53 2008.

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Should we do the same for interracial marriage?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:45:49 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 6 02:41:14 2008.

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You're the only troll here. I prefer to provoke actual thought.

You remember Matthew 24:37 and Luke 17:26, right?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 6 02:46:51 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:41:20 2008.

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No such thing...

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:51:08 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:41:20 2008.

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Nonsequitur and red herring.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:52:12 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 6 02:28:53 2008.

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I still think that it should be put to a vote by all the residents of the state

All of the state residents didn't get to vote on Proposition 8?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:53:12 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:51:08 2008.

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It is neither.
It is nearly the same thing.
The only differences are that opposite sex marriage is considered the norm while same race marriage was considered the norm. The only other difference is the time between the legal acceptance of the two.


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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:55:29 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:53:12 2008.

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Utterly false and you know it.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:56:16 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:55:29 2008.

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Not false in any way whatsoever. You are just an absurd homophobe.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 6 02:59:26 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:56:16 2008.

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Cool...

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 03:03:01 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:56:16 2008.

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No such word as "homophobe", unless you want a word that means "fear of the same".

And the people of California have spoken. Shall we be like the EU and change the state law for them? Marriage is a separation of church and state issue, to boot, and outside matters related purely to sexual lives of human beings. What's the purpose of a "civil" marriage?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 03:13:05 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:41:20 2008.

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If it's an interracial gay couple, why not?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 6 03:30:33 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:52:12 2008.

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I mean b4 they were denied a chance to vote [judges throwing out the votes] or something. Then now finally there is Prop 8 to vote on.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 6 03:40:05 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:56:16 2008.

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You're right. Prolog never did learn to walk erect with the rest of us.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 6 03:41:00 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:53:12 2008.

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True statements.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 03:46:10 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 03:03:01 2008.

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That's what is so scary. The people have spoken, and somehow, their voice will be silenced by the courts.

Still, I wonder what the divorce rate will be among gays after say ten years.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 6 03:50:31 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 03:46:10 2008.

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Probably similar to straight divorces. Gay couples are no better and no worse.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 6 03:51:36 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 6 02:28:53 2008.

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Harry Truman imposed desegregation on the military. I guess we should reverse that too.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 03:53:29 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by R30A on Thu Nov 6 02:56:16 2008.

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HAHA, pwnd

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 03:55:17 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:52:12 2008.

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No, only those over 18.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 03:57:54 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 6 03:50:31 2008.

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I don't know about that. And I can only imagine how politically sensitive it will be for police to deal with domestic violence in lesbian households. I know a lesbian girl at the gym in Queens who always had bruises and black eyes from her female husband.

Gays are known for being promiscuous too. You can go to a bathhouse or theater, and meet someone willing to have sex with you in minutes in some dark cubicle. Heterosexuals have no such counterpart. I guess swingers clubs would be the closest.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 6 04:05:09 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 03:57:54 2008.

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"And I can only imagine how politically sensitive it will be for police to deal with domestic violence in lesbian households. I know a lesbian girl at the gym in Queens who always had bruises and black eyes from her female husband."

The police already deal with that. Domestic violence is not just about married couples.

"Gays are known for being promiscuous too"
False. No more or less than straight couples.

"You can go to a bathhouse or theater, and meet someone willing to have sex with you in minutes in some dark cubicle"
That's because they are afraid of doing it on Lover's Lane. Heterosexual couples can make out in their convertible with no problem. If a gay couple tried that, they know that a homophobe would beat the shit out of them with a tire iron and smear their brains all over the pavement.


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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 6 04:07:28 2008, in response to Gay protest in LA, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 6 02:07:30 2008.

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From what I understand of California law, REVISIONS of the state constitution over "minor issues" is no biggie, but an actual AMENDMENT is pretty major. And to do either and put up a proposition requires 2/3 vote in BOTH houses before it can be presented to the voters. It would appear to me that all of the hoo-hah NOW is kinda moot given that there were plenty of opportunities to mobilize opposition LONG before it got on the ballot, especially in an election year. Was everybody "lezgoabeachwhatever?" :(

What I *don't* know about California law (and I've always found initiative/referendum" a HIGHLY slippery slope with an uneducated electorate, hell look at all the damage Prop 13 did!) is whether this is the FINAL "end game" or there's a provision in California constitution which requires an additional "step" which can be challenged ... anyone from Calley know where it goes next? Or is THIS the "end game?"

What I find difficult to accept here is that ANY state would put through a modification that would actually take AWAY rights which already exist, rather than granting NEW rights which did not exist prior (such as "medical marijuana" as but one example) ... I can't believe California would allow modifications without a rather SERIOUS mandate to take away rights under any circumstances, whatever the issue, but then again these have been GOP times. Look at the Patriot act f'rinstance. :(

So was PROP 8 perhaps ILLEGALLY sold as a "REVISION" when it SHOULD have been an AMENDMENT? (along with the additional procedures there) That's about the only legal angle I can see here ...

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 04:08:34 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 6 04:05:09 2008.

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I don't know about that. In Queens, there was always a gay section of Forest Park, where gays meet for encounters in the woods. They still go there, and leave used condoms in the hiking paths around Forest Park. I haven't heard of any attacks on them.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 05:19:00 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 03:57:54 2008.

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WOW you seem t be very well versed in the subject. Maybe you should come out of the closet.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:29:53 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 05:19:00 2008.

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You're a loser in life. Pathetic troll who attacks people daily. I'd love to know what you do for a living that you wake up so early. I think you're a porter.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 05:38:57 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:29:53 2008.

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Ooops, struck a nerve.

Yeah, right dunbass. Major corporations do not, generally speaking, give porters Internet access.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:44:48 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 05:38:57 2008.

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Then you should be investigated for using the Internet so often for non-business issues. Now get back to work.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 05:50:45 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:44:48 2008.

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Bite me.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:53:30 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 05:50:45 2008.

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Get back to work.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:57:21 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:53:30 2008.

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Subwaysurf. I said, get back to work. You live in a state with the highest tax burden, and they're broke. So do the best you can, before your job is shipped off to India, or you're job is cut altogether.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 06:08:05 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:57:21 2008.

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...and I said, bite me. Your signature doesn't appear on my pay check.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 06:18:45 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 06:08:05 2008.

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you won't have a paycheck if you keep goofing off at work. now get back to work.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 06:20:52 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 06:18:45 2008.

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also, I notice that you doublepost a lot. weak connection as you steal a signal while at work? people like are you the reason for New York's troubles.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 06:23:31 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:53:30 2008.

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Right after you come out of the closet.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 06:26:25 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 06:23:31 2008.

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I said get back to work. And stop stealing others wireless signal.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 6 06:47:49 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 05:29:53 2008.

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AFAIK, he works overnight at MACY*S on 34th Street.

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Re:: Gay protest in LA

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Nov 6 07:03:10 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 6 02:28:53 2008.

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Wan't it the masses than defeated the measure?

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 07:16:23 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 6 06:47:49 2008.

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and you'd be wrong.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 6 07:17:37 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 07:16:23 2008.

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No, AFAIK, I'm correct.

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Re: Gay protest in LA

Posted by J trainloco on Thu Nov 6 08:19:55 2008, in response to Re: Gay protest in LA, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 6 03:57:54 2008.

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You can go to a bathhouse or theater, and meet someone willing to have sex with you in minutes in some dark cubicle. Heterosexuals have no such counterpart.

Never been to a club I take it?

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