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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 16:49:37 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 13:12:11 2008. Yes, that means a lot. However, the people in Chicago must be nuts to award him that.Then again, Obama comes from there..... |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 16:56:35 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 16:49:37 2008. Well that's the guy that Obama knows. He was citizen of the year when they met. He was a respected member of their political and academic circles. Palin, Hannity, Rush, McCain, etc. want to make it seem like Obama's association with him was controversial when it wasn't at all. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 17:00:06 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 16:56:35 2008. He was a respected member of their political and academic circlesAs was Farrakhan. There is no "want to make it seem". It is controversial. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 17:04:36 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 17:00:06 2008. Strange how either Obama wanted to hang around these winners like Farrakhan and Ayers....or strange that these lunatics wanted to hang around with Obama. Things that make you say "Hmmmmmmmm". |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 17:09:31 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 17:04:36 2008. When did Obama hang around Farrakhan? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 17:10:08 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 17:04:36 2008. Hey . . . we live in a world where people like that are still allowed to roam free and spread their respective diseases. To think that we fought two world wars to stop such people. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Oct 25 17:22:48 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 14:07:40 2008. Cuz, it's not in the rules for radicals. You never answer questions, you pretend to laugh.Watch them 3 "debates"? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 25 18:28:11 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 06:31:44 2008. He did call the police? He should have. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 18:41:29 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 14:19:13 2008. But it's amazing that he is allowed to teach at a University after all he did.Should Berkowitz be free b/c police never had a search warrant to search his car or home?, and be allowed to teach! Should the Unibomber get off on a technicality?, and be allowed to teach! Ayers should continue to be an issue about our education system. Look at the red star on his t-shirt. He laughing at the world. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 18:44:34 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 18:41:29 2008. Berkowitz and the Unibomber killed people. Did Ayers' actions even injure anyone? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 18:48:27 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 18:44:34 2008. No, but what does that mean? He certainly could have. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 18:55:14 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 18:44:34 2008. Does it matter? We're talking about whether or not someone who planted bombs should be teaching. It's not even about Obama anymore. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 19:01:19 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 18:55:14 2008. My understanding is that his group would call ahead to warn people so that no one would get hurt. I don't condone his actions, but it's certainly in no way similar what Berkowitz or the Unibomber did. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 19:02:48 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 19:01:19 2008. But in no way should he be allowed to teach young kids. It's sad that the education system allows this. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 19:03:16 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 19:02:48 2008. He doesn't teach young kids. He teaches at a college. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 19:04:51 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 19:03:16 2008. I know that school is radical, but never knew how low they would go. Ayers was a domestic terrorist. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 19:05:34 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 18:41:29 2008. But it's amazing that he is allowed to teach at a University after all he did.Anyone doing a background check on Ayers would find no criminal convictions. You can certainly say that the US system of justice is defective in that it didn't convict Ayers. But given that he's never been convicted of anything, how does his background matter? Is it your opinion that anyone who has ever been charged with a violent crime, even if not convicted, should not be allowed to teach? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 19:05:43 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 19:04:51 2008. Okay. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 25 20:02:26 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 19:05:34 2008. The system wasn't defective. The defect was in the prosecutors who got themselves owned. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 20:14:59 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 25 20:02:26 2008. The system wasn't defective. The defect was in the prosecutors who got themselves owned.I don't know enough about it to express an opinion on that. I'm just saying that once the system says you're free to go, then it's not appropriate for others to hold the charge against you. Luch seems to agree, since he hasn't responded. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 25 20:15:36 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 20:14:59 2008. True...but it was prosecutorial misconduct that led to the dismissal of the charges against Ayers. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 20:41:46 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 20:14:59 2008. I'm just saying that once the system says you're free to go, then it's not appropriate for others to hold the charge against youWhat are you talking about? Nobody's resurrecting the charges against Ayers. Doesn't mean that he's not guilty, though. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 20:43:51 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 16:18:55 2008. It wasn't the hippies who sapped our will to fightFalse. The hippies prolonged the war that they wanted to end. that majority didn't change their minds because of the hippies. They despised the Viet Cong just as much in 1974 as in 1964. They just didn't think that eliminating them was a useful goal any more Also false. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 20:44:37 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 20:41:46 2008. What are you talking about? Nobody's resurrecting the charges against Ayers. Doesn't mean that he's not guilty, though.I agree. But it does mean that U of I can't consider him to be guilty when evaluating him as an employment candidate. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 20:45:10 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Oct 25 14:34:07 2008. Oh, I was definitely born then. And guess what president I'm talking about? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 25 20:52:21 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 20:41:46 2008. It does, however. Never mind the charges never made it to trial. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 20:54:38 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 25 20:52:21 2008. No, false. You can't do it and not be guilty. Withdrawing charges is not a declaration of innocence.And you're misconstruing things. Ayers was hiding underground at the time. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 25 20:58:02 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 20:54:38 2008. The fugitive charge, however, was also thrown out with the other charges.The prosecutors never dropped them...a judge tossed it all with prejudice to Ayers. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 21:31:08 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Oct 25 11:11:08 2008. More bullsquat from FOX!!! Consider the source. Ayers today is no more a bomb-throwing radial than you are. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 21:32:01 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 21:31:08 2008. What about Ayers "yesterday", when he hung out with Obama? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 21:33:29 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 21:32:01 2008. Ayers today is no more a bomb-throwing radial than you are. His Weatherman days are 34 years in the past. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 21:36:32 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 21:33:29 2008. Ayers today is no more a bomb-throwing radial than you are.Today. Maybe, maybe not. But what about when he hung out with Obama. You didn't answer my question. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 21:37:33 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 21:32:01 2008. I wonder if people would be so forgiving if Ayers was in the KKK? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 21:56:11 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 21:36:32 2008. Ayers wasn't a a bomb-throwing radial when he was with Obama either, except in GOP minds like you. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 21:57:31 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 21:37:33 2008. Not relevant. Stick to basics. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 22:12:21 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 21:36:32 2008. Today. Maybe, maybe not. But what about when he hung out with Obama. You didn't answer my question.Even then, not for 20+ years. And at that time he hadn't made his lack of repentance clear either. Do you have any evidence Obama even knew he had been charged with a crime? This isn't exactly an identical situation, but until the early 1990s the NYC Council member for the Lower East Side, Miriam Friedlander, was a former member of the US Communist Party. Most people didn't know. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:14:31 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 21:57:31 2008. So if McCain hung out 20 or 30 years ago with a KKK member, it wouldn't be an issue in this campaign?If McCain hung out for 20 years with a white supremesit minister in a lunatic fanatical church it wouldn't be an issue? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:16:02 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:14:31 2008. Not if McCain were half black it wouldn't. It would show extreme tolerance. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:19:38 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 21:56:11 2008. I am not a Republican. (As if it matters). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:24:15 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:16:02 2008. Okay, so it would have been totally acceptable if McCain (Who hypothetically would be half black, but would look white - like Obama "looks" black, it would not be a problem if he hung around with a KKK member years back, and went to a white supremesist church for 20 years. Uh yeah. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:32:11 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:24:15 2008. Why do you say Obama looks black? He obviously looks mixed race. Have you seen a picture of his mother and father? His complexion is closer to his mother than his father. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:33:43 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:32:11 2008. Then why is everyone saying, "I think it's wonderful that we may have our first BLACK president". I rarely every here anything about him being "white", not even when he visits his typical white grandmother in Hawaii. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:35:31 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:33:43 2008. Because white people don't consider mixed race people to be white while black americans generally consider mixed race people to be black. Left over from the "one drop" laws I guess. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:40:24 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:35:31 2008. Oh come on, you have got to come up with a better one than that. Black people are saying the same thing. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:42:06 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:40:24 2008. Do you know any mixed race people? Do you consider them to be white? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:50:53 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:42:06 2008. Yes, actually I knew a few. One of them looks more black than white, another looks more white than black (feature wise), although perhaps could pass as a light skinned Hispanic. The other two you can tell are of mixed race.So would I consider any of them white? Yes, the one that looks white. The other one looks black (couldn't tell). The other two don't look black or white, I wouldn't conside them either. Why are we labeling these people though? I am telling you what just about everyone is saying, "We could have our first African American President". So what's the point you are trying to make? He's still half white. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:51:41 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:50:53 2008. Yes, actually I knew a few.I mean I KNOW a few. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Oct 25 23:24:43 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 22:35:31 2008. Because white people don't consider mixed race people to be white while black americans generally consider mixed race people to be black. Left over from the "one drop" laws I guess.One theory I've heard is that the mixed-race people most likely to identify as black and make an issue out of their racial identity are those who were raised by their white mothers with little or no parental involvement from their black fathers. Obama is a classic example, as are Alicia Keyes and Halle Berry. Historically, Frederick Douglass and Booker T. Washington fell into this category. On the other hand, mixed-race people who were raised by both parents tend to be more relaxed about racial issues and identify themselves as mixed. Derek Jeter, Jason Kidd and Jordin Sparks are examples. It's hard to say how mixed-race people with black mothers identify, as there are relatively few of them. Lenny Kravitz doesn't make a big thing about race, on the other hand Bob Marley had a strong black identity. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Oct 25 23:42:48 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 22:24:15 2008. How come its so freakin hard for you cats to accept AMERICAN HISTORY..?ALL OF IT...! The parts that YOUR PEOPLE RUN AWAY FROM..? So what Rev.Wright had issues..? I happen to believe him..and why..got it right from AMERICAN HISTORY...and LIVED THROUGH IT...? So..why can't YOU GUYS FESS? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 23:46:30 2008, in response to Re: Reporter confronts Ayers! LOL, posted by Edwards! on Sat Oct 25 23:42:48 2008. What the fuck is he doing talking about history and politics from the pulpit? Pathetic. |
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