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Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 03:15:14 2008

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They've been in Afghanistan since the 1950s (West Germany, not East). Thanks to them, the primary focus of the Afghan police is on counterinsurgency, which makes them very heavy-handed and brutal, and also the the cause of a lot of atrocities (such as torturing children and juveniles in custody). Our ally? How much have they changed in 63 years?

German-Foreign-Policy.com

Part of the Problem

2008/10/21
BERLIN/KABUL (Own report) — Serious accusations are being raised in Afghanistan against the police that Germany had been responsible for establishing. According to a recent investigation by the United Nations Children's Fund, UNICEF, and the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC), children and juveniles are being tortured in Afghan police custody, to the extent that only one in five juveniles reported not having been ill-treated while in custody. For more than six years, Germany has been the "leading nation" in the domain of setting up the Afghan police and has declared its intentions to rectify the irregularities. In fact, the German authorities involved are not only cooperating with the notorious warlords, but are focusing the police training on counter-insurgency. The result is a barbarization of the forces of repression. Already back in the 1960s and '70s, serious accusations were raised against the Afghan police. Also at that time, it was West Germany that was taking care of training the Afghan police.

Systematic Torture

A recent investigation by UNICEF and the human rights organization, Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) have raised serious accusations against the Afghan police force. It was an investigation of the situation of children in detention centers. They uncovered not only miserable conditions of incarceration and frequent violation of the maximum term of imprisonment for juveniles, but also massive violence on the part of the police. Only 21 percent of the juveniles reported they had not been ill-treated. 36 percent reported ill-treatment, 43 percent did not want to answer the question. In some cases this use of force produced serious injuries and in a few others, injuries of long duration. If "only 21% of the queried children and juveniles said: we were not tortured and ill-treated by the police, then we are talking about systematic torture," says Manfred Nowak, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture.

Human Rights Violations

The results of these investigations confirm observations not only known in Afghanistan, but that have been openly debated even in Berlin. Already last summer, the German Institute for International and Security Affairs (SWP) reported serious ill-treatment at the hands of the Afghan police. According to SWP, the police have repeatedly been "accused of torture and other violations of human rights." Police are said to be implicated in the drug trade, taking bribes for the release of prisoners, pocketing illegal tolls at control points and more. The population views the forces of repression "more as a part of the country's security problem than as a means for its solution." The accusations were repeated almost verbatim last summer. This is serious, because Berlin took over the organization of the re-establishment of the Afghan police in 2002, without any improvement of the human rights situation. There were also no improvements after the EU took over responsibility for the development of the police in the summer of 2007. Up to a few days ago, the EU police mission in Afghanistan (EUPOL) was commanded by a German official.

Militia

The breakdown of police organization in Afghanistan is certainly not only attributed to negligence on the part of the officials involved. In their efforts to establish a pro-Western regime in Kabul, the West had to rely on supporters — and therefore entered alliances with various notorious warlords. As the SWP reports, this has had an effect on the re-establishment of the police. The SWP government advisors blame the puppet regime in Kabul for the fact that many "militia members of influential warlords and commanders" become "policemen". Once on the force they "abide by their own laws, while on duty," writes the SWP in reference to the arbitrary rule of armed bandits wearing police uniforms. But the acceptance of these warlords is unthinkable without at least the quiet acquiescence of the occupying powers. The inauguration of the German police training center in Mazar e Sharif one week ago is a practical example.

Governor

According to an announcement by the German interior ministry, the decision to establish this facility had been reached by the German ambassador to Afghanistan — "along with the governor of the Balkh Province, Mr. Mohammed Atta." The facility is destined to train up to 1,000 Afghan policemen per year. Governor Atta participated in the facility's cornerstone-laying ceremonies on July 23. On a photo of the event, disseminated by the Foreign Ministry, in the ceremonies, he is seen standing directly beside Foreign Minister Steinmeier. Atta is one of the most powerful warlords in Northern Afghanistan. Up to early 2004, his militia was accused of serious crimes by Human Rights Watch. Shortly thereafter he rose to governor in Mazar e Sharif. From that point on, the West fell silent. Criticism continued to be expressed only by members of the Afghan opposition, who are now being threatened with death. "Over the past few years, 162 houses were illegally confiscated by (Atta's) regime, but no one dares to report this," explains one journalist, according to whom, a few months ago, a doctor was killed, "because he owned land in a section of the town that Atta wanted to have." Another press representative protested that the occupation troops are "supporting a regime, comprised of criminals." In fact it is not only the foreign minister, who allows himself to be photographed with Atta, a warlord, who, according to UN authorities, is still implicated in the drug trade. Atta was invited by the Foreign Ministry to visit Berlin last May.

Counterinsurgency

The training of the Afghan police force is focused, to a large extent, on counterinsurgency. Particularly the United States, but also Germany, are both pushing for appropriate measures to field as many local forces against the insurgents, as quickly as possible. The Afghan National Army, (ANA) as well as the Afghan National Police, (ANP) are being trained for this purpose. German training programs, often organized by the military police, include "inspecting persons and vehicles within the framework of checkpoint operations" and "recognizing booby traps and explosive devices." The German military police is also instructing Afghan police in the proper use of AK-47 assault rifles. These activities are not only documented in maneuver scenarios of the German Bundeswehr. For example, one can read in the description of a maneuver carried out last spring by German occupation troops: "During a raid operation, soldiers of the German Quick Reaction Force (QRF) are ordered to encircle the small town" while "ANP forces were ordered to carry out the raid inside the town." German soldiers were killed last Monday while executing a similar action in Kunduz.

Not for the First Time

Afghan repressive forces are becoming increasingly brutal, especially through their dealings with notorious warlords and their participation in counterinsurgency. The consequences of this rising police brutality are documented in a study that has just been published by UNICEF and AIHRC. And it is not the first time that German training of the Afghan police has encountered heavy criticism.

Chief of Police

West German police instructors were working in Kabul long before the civil war. They arrived already in the mid-1950s. When the United States terminated its support for the Afghan repressive forces, back at the beginning of the 1960s, West Germany dispatched an inspector of the regional riot police of the interior ministry to the Afghan capital. He functioned as a government advisor for police issues in the Afghan Interior Ministry and as the coordinator of the entire West German police assistance. This is how West Germany "got the country's entire field of police work under its administration" says the Afghanistan expert Martin Baraki. In March 1974, Bonn could send an executive police superintendent to Kabul to serve for three years as police chief for all of Afghanistan. Afghan police officers, including officers of the political police, also received training in West Germany.

Caprice, Invectives, Beatings

Already back then, the West German-trained Afghan police were confronted with accusations of ill-treatment. As Baraki writes, "arrests and detainments … were carried out even without a court order." Not just invectives and humiliation, but even "beating citizens for negligible reasons (traffic violations etc.)" was "general practice". But, in the eyes of the West, the Afghan police were dependable. When in 1978, a socialist government came to power in Kabul, the only state organs that rebelled against it were "those police units that had been trained by and in West Germany. Some of these Afghan police, who refused to accept the new conditions after 1978, left for West Germany or West Berlin," where they were hired "to corresponding positions on the police force."


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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 04:36:18 2008, in response to Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 03:15:14 2008.

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Gee ... if only *WE* had gone into Afghanistan instead of "farming it out" so we could invade Iraq instead to satisfy Iran ... ah well. Shows what happens when the party of Teddy Roosevelt sets priorities ... sorta like the economy. And yet you diss Obama who actually RECOGNIZES what the real issues are.

Your rantings about Germans, Popes and all else would matter if only you actually paid attention to what's actually going on. If not Germany in there, then who? The Chinese? Certainly not *US* ... and THERE be where Bin Hidin' is ... but nobody cares, and GOP apologists keep trying to justify the stupidity which resulted in this. :-\

U.N. worthless? Ah well ... guess it's the Germans then since nobody else gave a crap. Got BIER?

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 04:49:15 2008, in response to Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 04:36:18 2008.

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yet you diss Obama who actually RECOGNIZES what the real issues are

No he doesn't. Hamas and Hezbollah having "legitimate claims"? The EU's expansion being "history's most successful democratization strategy" (they're not democratic at all)?

And why did you mention Obama? I didn't. Do you just like diversionary arguments? You're the one not paying attention to what's actually going on. Unless you're saying that we should have done something about Germany?

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 04:59:48 2008, in response to Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 04:49:15 2008.

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Sorry, buddy ... things are way too phucked up HERE to care about Germany. Let's get rid of McCain, get Obama in the White House and then we can actually DO something. For now, we're not just crippled, we're DEAD in the water. But then you consistently PROVE that you don't give a rat's ASS about America ...

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 05:58:55 2008, in response to Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 04:59:48 2008.

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things are way too phucked up HERE to care about Germany

If you don't care about world matters, then you don't have to read threads like this. But rest assured, Germany cares a great deal about us, and has contributed to our "phucking up", indeed for decades. You want them to get out of control again, and us be too weak to deal with them after fighting them twice in the last century?

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 06:04:23 2008, in response to Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 05:58:55 2008.

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Heh. And WHO put us there? And WHO do you support? Methinks YOU'RE a "fifth column" in the GOP Communist takeover of America. Germans didn't even get a CHANCE to play here ... thank the Assemblies of God. :(

Yeah, Obama's our biggest problem. Ayup ...

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Oct 25 15:37:25 2008, in response to Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 03:15:14 2008.

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I hope we apologize to the germans so me more, and UNICEF! Maybe we should give germany reparations too.

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 16:12:45 2008, in response to Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Oct 25 15:37:25 2008.

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Bad enough we sold all sorts of our domestic companies to Germany.

Germany's proof of how mistaken the long-standing nation-building this country has been engaged in has been. Iraq became exactly what Germany became way back when Adenauer was allowed to lead West Germany.

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 23 21:57:38 2009, in response to Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 05:58:55 2008.

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LMAO!

WW2 continues inside your head.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 23 22:05:26 2009, in response to Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 03:15:14 2008.

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Who's Andreas Plake?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 24 20:57:41 2009, in response to Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 23 22:05:26 2009.

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Appears to be an author, who helped Hans Frankenthal write his book titled "The Unwelcome One: Returning Home from Auschwitz".


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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 25 08:40:51 2009, in response to Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 24 20:57:41 2009.

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And also the person behind German-Foreign-Policy.com.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 28 09:48:11 2009, in response to Germany has been interfering in Afghanistan for DECADES, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 03:15:14 2008.

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Forgot to post this new bit of info from German-Foreign-Policy.com . . . they're trying to insinuate the UAE into the conflict over there, partly as a favor to the regents there, and partly to unite the Arab world in particular around a German leadership. This won't be any help to Obama's goals in that country, and it's going to introduce more German-trained forces (with their bad habits of extreme violence, in a lot of instances) to the region.

Partner in Occupation

2009/01/16
Berlin seeks to get Arab forces more involved in the occupation of Afghanistan. Just a few days ago, representatives from Germany and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) laid the cornerstone for a new police headquarters in Kabul. The foreign ministers of both countries also agreed to work together on the upgrading of the Mazar-e-Sharif Airport, which is currently being also used by the German military (Bundeswehr). The German Foreign Minister announced his wish to cooperate more closely in the future with the Emirates at the Hindu Kush. Support from Abu Dhabi is not only reducing the cost of the occupation, it is also providing an Arab-Muslim countenance to the Western activities. This, according to the ministry, could be helpful in weakening the resistance to the occupation. Germany had already called upon Abu Dhabi's services as an intermediary for the training of Iraqi soldiers and the rearming of Iraq. Recourse to the Emirates for the occupation of Afghanistan, exposes the objectives of the "strategic partnership" that Germany concluded with this Persian Gulf state in 2004.

Strategic Partnership

As a result of intensive preparations, the "strategic partnership" between Germany and the UAE was concluded in April 2004. Concerning this accord, the German embassy in Abu Dhabi wrote: "(W)ith this accord, both governments manifest their will to work closely together in all areas of our bilateral relations." Germany is greatly benefiting from the "partnership," which encompasses numerous ministerial and state visits between the two capitals. Statistics show that about thirty of these visits have occurred since Chancellor Gerhard Schrφder — as the first German head of government since 1981 — visited in Abu Dhabi and Dubai in October 2004. Last Monday, Chancellor Merkel met with the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi, Sheik Mohammed Bin Zayed Al Nahyan in Berlin — for the third time.

Major Customer

It is worth the effort. Over the past few years German exports to the UAE have sharply increased. The Gulf sheikdoms purchased nearly €6 billion worth of goods in Germany in 2007. The Emirates Airlines are among the major clients of Airbus, with contracts running in the double-digit billions. On the other hand, Germany is not dependent upon products from the Emirates. German imports from the Emirates are stagnating at a relatively meager €400 million per year. Berlin is seeking, even culturally — by implanting a joint office in Abu Dhabi of the Goethe Institute and German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) — to unilaterally orient the Emirates toward Germany. Not least of all, the "partnership" takes on a comprehensive repressive component: the Emirates' police and military are being trained and equipped by Germany.

NATO Standards

The UAE are therefore orienting themselves, even in security questions and armaments, on western standards. The cooperation between the UAE armed forces and the Bundeswehr was initiated back in the 1990s and institutionalized in 2005 with a "Treaty on Cooperation in the Military Sector". In accompaniment the Emirates bought arms. As observers summed up: "(T)he significance of Germany as an arms supplier" for the Gulf nation was "relatively marginal until the end of the 1990s." It was only in 2005 that "according to the German government, the UAE became the third most important customer for German military products outside of NATO." Also in 2007, the UAE was far up the scale as an outlet for German military exports — with purchases of military hardware worth nearly €70 million, it ranked sixth among the recipient nations outside of NATO and the EU.

Iraq

In questions of repression, the Emirates have aided Berlin on several occasions — in the training and arming of the Iraqi regime's police and military. Even before the "strategic partnership" agreements were concluded, the German Minister of the Interior, Otto Schily, at the time, visited the Gulf in January 2004, to negotiate the training of 500 Iraqi policemen. The German Federal Office of Criminal Investigation was able to complete the training course within a year. Since then, there have been three training programs for the Iraqi military, which were also carried out by the Bundeswehr in the Emirates. The assistance rendered the collaborators of Iraq's western occupiers have been positively assessed both in Berlin and in Abu Dhabi.

Afghanistan

Berlin is progressively drawing the UAE into the occupation activities in Afghanistan as well. On January 11, representatives of Germany and the Emirates laid a cornerstone for a new headquarters of the riot police (the Afghan National Civil Order Police, ANCOP). The construction will be co-financed nearly equally (Germany: €1.39 million/UAE: €1.25 million). The UAE's interior ministry has installed a representative to observe the work at the future ANCOP headquarters. ANCOP is seen as a significant element of counter insurgency at the Hindu Kush. The day following the cornerstone laying ceremony, the German Foreign Minister announced that he and his Emirati counterpart had agreed on a joint project of upgrading the Mazar-e-Sharif Airport. This airport is being used by the Bundeswehr, whose radius of action will be enhanced through this upgrade. Other projects will follow. The Emirati support is not being sought merely for its financial aspect, but because it lends the occupation an Arab-Islamic countenance as well, thereby weakening the potential resistance.

Federal Cross of Merit

The engagement of the UAE for occupation activities in Afghanistan and Iraq expose the main objective of the 2004 "strategic partnership". The Bundeswehr's training of Emirati troops and the perpetual purchase of NATO standard arms in Germany leaves the possibility open of the Gulf country's more extensive collaboration in occupation and war. In recognition of Abu Dhabi's ruling clan's accomplishments in adjustment, German President Horst Kφhler recently awarded the country's Deputy Prime Minister, Sheikh Hamdan bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Germany's Grand Federal Cross of Merit with Star and Sash. As the German ambassador explained on December 14, 2008, in Abu Dhabi at the award ceremony, the Sheikh had played a "decisive role" not only in the founding, but also in the elaboration, of the "strategic partnership."


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