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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 5 16:41:06 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 15:37:46 2008.

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There's an old saying "Want to screw up a going concern? Get the Government involved."

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 16:41:38 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 16:36:04 2008.

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Ones dislike of Barack Obama does not translate into a hatred of black people except in the eyes of a polarizing racist. I dislike Barack Obama passionately. I dislike him for being the most liberal senator in the US Senate. I dislike him because of his stance on critical issues facing this country. I also dislike him for his association with criminals, racists and terrorists. Now I also intensely like Ted Kennedy and Blarney Frank for many of the same reasons so by your definition, I guess I hate white people, too.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 16:42:58 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 5 16:41:06 2008.

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Correct! Look what Davie Dinkins and Hazel Duke did to NY OTB. Government can sell drugs and lose money!

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 16:52:53 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 16:36:04 2008.

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Get Obama's book and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Writing about Obama does not translate to racist.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 16:57:14 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 16:41:38 2008.

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Hmm your list is why I hate the Bush and McCains.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 16:59:37 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 16:52:53 2008.

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The way you do constantly, is certainly cause for concern, Have you checkt your sheets for holes.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 17:07:37 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 16:57:14 2008.

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So then by your definition, you must hate white people>

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:19:05 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 17:07:37 2008.

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nope

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Oct 5 17:20:48 2008, in response to Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 13:03:49 2008.

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Unless there were at least 100,000 people involved it doesn't count as a "riot" by Pakistani standards. If the government announces a 10% decrease in the cooking oil subsidy there'll be a quarter-million people in the streets.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:24:04 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 16:59:37 2008.

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you should check your sheets for stains.

Your response is the typical response from Obama supporters. Cry racism hoping it will be argument ending. But it won't work anymore, and I think Americans will be smart enough at the polls in November.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:27:15 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:24:04 2008.

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We will see, but you may be very disappointed in next few years of your life.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:30:17 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:27:15 2008.

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I'm already disappointed that so many people would overlook the facts regarding Obama, thinking that he's the answer to America's problems. I'm just asking people to look at the overwhelming facts regarding Obama.

The guy wasn't even invited to the DNC eight years ago. Four years ago, he gives a speech, and now he's their candidate? And the facts regarding his relationship with Ayers, Wright, and now propagandizing kids, shows what he's all about.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:35:33 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:30:17 2008.

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Method Obama McCain
Latest Poll Per State 332 197
Poll of Polls 344 174
Survey USA 262 276
Rasmussen Reports 306 205
Quinnipiac 269 128
CNN 283 148
ARG 287 251
Insider Advantage 214 160
Research 2000 188 183
Strategic Vision 211 175
Public Policy Polling 219 144
Mason Dixon 181 139
Zogby 271 240
National Average 47.0% 42.8%


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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:39:42 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:35:33 2008.

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But here's the problem with some of those numbers. I notice on RCP that they are giving states to Obama that he leads by just 2 points. States that have overestimated him by 5 points in the past.



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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:43:35 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:39:42 2008.

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The average still goes to Obama including your forcasted Pa

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Oct 5 17:44:14 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Oct 5 17:20:48 2008.

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Only a quarter mil?

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:48:43 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:43:35 2008.

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No. They pull numbers from just about anyone that does a poll, even with no proven track record of polling a presidential race.

For example, they use The Columbus Dispatch in Ohio, which easily offsets more reliable numbers.

I stick to two polls, Rasmussen and Gallup. Anything else is being a hypocrite.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 17:48:59 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 15:23:58 2008.

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Huh? Engrish please.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:50:46 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 17:48:59 2008.

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LOL. I wonder if he got that?

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 17:51:25 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 15:35:10 2008.

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check out what he named his book for the Indonesia market.
Assult on hope, from jakarta to the white house

That's awesome.

I never seen a crooked machine politican with international terror(oh sorry, we're talkign about domestic and ignoring those) ties before.

Actually, back in teh day, the most crooked machine pol would still love his nation!

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 17:52:09 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:35:33 2008.

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Let us not forget that 4 years ago this time we were looking at polls that said the same thing about John Kerry. Wonderfully magical something happens to some people when they get into the voting booth. Common sense replaces stylish liberalism and they vote with their head. That's the only poll that counts and I still believe in the common sense of the electorate.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:52:52 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:48:43 2008.

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your New Jersey numbers don't add up either
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/new-jersey.html

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:57:31 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:52:52 2008.

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Yeah. NJ may slip away. But I have not given up on NJ and Mass.

Va., too. Notice the lib sources like CNN/Time always give Obama the best lead.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:58:16 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 17:52:09 2008.

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Well here is Gallup poll
http://www.gallup.com/poll/107674/Gallup-Daily-Election-2008.aspx
Last election people did not realize how repukes were screwing them.
They were still in favor of war etc , their finaly seeing the light.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 18:01:11 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 17:58:16 2008.

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I guess my point went right over yours

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 18:17:42 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 5 18:01:11 2008.

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dutchrailcuck is like a cross between Journal Square, Selkirk, and Moreira.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 18:19:47 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 18:17:42 2008.

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Thats actually a compliment, cause they sure show more intelligence than you do.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Oct 5 20:10:05 2008, in response to Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 13:03:49 2008.

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What Obama ACTUALLY said was "If we find terrorists in Pakistan and the Pakistani government doesn't take action, then we will go in there and take them out". Watch the debate footage for this quote.

Given the Pakistani government's sorry track record of harboring terrorists and, in fact, using terror as a political instrument, I think Obama is right on the money. Let the Pakistanis riot if they must, but they are not our friends.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by shiznit1987 on Sun Oct 5 20:52:46 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 5 15:28:24 2008.

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The same Nazis the Dutch collaborated with? Come on now...

Joe Kennedy was a Nazi too. Many very greedy/misguided people were back then. Still, unlike the Netherlands, we didn't seek to kill our own people.

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Re: Dutch support for Aparthied

Posted by shiznit1987 on Sun Oct 5 20:57:29 2008, in response to Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 13:03:49 2008.

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Hey, Dutchrailman, have you apologized for vaporizing and discriminating against Blacks in South Africa? What is the position of the Netherlands government on this issue?

Why are you such a hypocrite?

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 22:18:11 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 15:21:37 2008.

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Ok. I thought you were talking about another show. I watched most of it. I saw a ton of it when it was on last year too like Easy said.

I enjoyed it. But I never saw the end when they get to present and future, and they're doing some type of jewish yoga or some silly stuff. I think I switch off after the Catskills or something.

There's a good one about the Irish too if you're into that sort of stuff, the History channel runs it around St Patty's day. I'd recommend that one too. But I don't think it was a three parter like the Jews.
I could probably make all sorts of jokes about that.

Anyway, thanks for the heads up, I saw some parts I missed the first time. I think I switched on during the part where that German Jew's charity turned into a gigantic thing. Makes me wonder....
we had a charity drive at work. Pretty big thing. Company matches on a lot of good stuff.

But when "stingy won't give a cent" Obama and Biden nationalizes everything and taxes us instead, then what? I still didn't save up my 2500 dollars for the anti-west UN.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 22:20:56 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 17:50:46 2008.

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I don't remember what nationality he is. I decided to make that my new tag line. Maybe he got offended.
Not like I"m not called anything on here, I don't get the big deal about that stuff.

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 22:22:20 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Easy on Sun Oct 5 16:01:06 2008.

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Some stories should be posted hundreds of times. Like his slum projects that collapsed on those little kids.

But it's still relevant given that it was a BIG SUBJECT in the last debate!

Could we find anyone with less compassion than Dubya? Yes we did!

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 5 22:23:48 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Oct 5 20:10:05 2008.

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We got video and quotes of his disgraced advisor whose set to be a cabinet member wanting to invade and send troops into Israel too. And hers didn't even have a qualifier like you just did.
Surge in afghanistan. Etc etc.

Now I see why he's so pro-open borders. We need the recruits!!

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Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible'

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 6 10:18:29 2008, in response to Re: Pakistan riots: Obama remark 'irresponsible', posted by Easy on Sun Oct 5 16:01:06 2008.

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I guess I have the answer, then. The msm buried it.

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