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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:09:51 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 22:02:03 2008. It's bad. 1/2 of the family's money, half of all they worked their lives for goes to the government, not the heirs. That's bad. |
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Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 4 22:13:03 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 12:57:42 2008. And while the shocked and appauled dummycrats wring their hands, Ms. Pelin's daughter will have her immediate and extended families support and will likely be okay in life.Not so with barack hussein obama's brother who has been forsaken by his successful brother and continues to live in a mud and tin hovel in Kenya while barack and michelle curse this country while living in a $1.4 million mansion. Why do the liberals not wring their hands and limp wrists for Malik obama? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:14:43 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 11:28:03 2008. No actually...I'm not speaking from a societal point of view, actually. I'm speaking from a scientific point of view. If you thought I was speaking from societal POV...that would be the first mistake.Of course I know you were talking physically. And I told you that 17 "being too young" is a SOCIETAL aspect, NOT physical or scientifically. The body is perfectly physically ready at 17, and even younger to reproduce. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 22:17:40 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:09:51 2008. No, it's not. That money has lower utility for the recipient than someone earning less.Your first thousand dollars are ALWAYS more valuable than your last. Your last thousand dollars are less and less valuable the more dollars they follow. This is even more true of windfalls. |
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Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 22:21:06 2008, in response to Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 4 22:13:03 2008. Their home is worth more. They got it below market value. |
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Re: Obama's "Forgotten" (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention) |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Sep 4 22:24:25 2008, in response to Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 4 22:13:03 2008. So we should punish Obama because his irresponsible father couldn't keep his dick in his pants?Nice way of putting a twist on things in your favor. And you cannot compare Palin's situation with Barack's. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:30:07 2008, in response to Re: Obama's "Forgotten" (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Sep 4 22:24:25 2008. So we should punish Obama because his irresponsible father couldn't keep his dick in his pants?So then why is YOUR party making an issue about Palin's daughter he couldn't keep his dick in his pants (using your elegant phrase). Nice way of putting a twist on things in your favor. So you finally see how politics work. The Democrats do that all the time too. But then of course, it's "okay". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:30:27 2008, in response to Re: Obama's "Forgotten" (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Sep 4 22:24:25 2008. So we should punish Obama because his irresponsible father couldn't keep his dick in his pants?So then why is YOUR party making an issue about Palin's daughter who's boyfriend couldn't keep his dick in his pants (using your elegant phrase). Nice way of putting a twist on things in your favor. So you finally see how politics work. The Democrats do that all the time too. But then of course, it's "okay". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:31:25 2008, in response to Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 22:21:06 2008. They live in a basic slum remember? Of course it was cheap. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Sep 4 22:44:53 2008, in response to Re: Obama's ''Forgotten'' (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:30:07 2008. Um, it isn't "my" party, sorry. I actually like America. Don't believe in those parties. As of the moment, I think the democrats would be the best choice for my country, however.As long as we play blue team vs red team, we will never be a true America. And I don't agree with anyone making an "issue" of Palin's pregnant daughter, even though the mass media isn't really making a big deal of it. You seem to be making a big deal, however. I actually was actually in support of McCAIN in the beginning, but I actually READ about him(no, not the news), and what he has done, and I realized he is just the puppet of lobbyists, cronnies, and interests. Note how he flip flops. And with what he has been saying about wars on terror; not a good idea anymore. Obama is more of a gamble, but voting for McCain would officially put this country into overdrive towards the chithole. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:48:52 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 22:17:40 2008. It's not a "windfall". The person who died worked their asses off to make that money (or maybe they didn't but it was THEIRS). Yes, that money is worth more to someone who has less, and I know what you are saying, but it's still almost HALF of those people's money going to taxes. That's not right. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Sep 4 23:02:13 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:09:51 2008. 1/2 of the family's money, half of all they worked their lives for goes to the government, not the heirs.It isn't "1/2"; it's 45% above $2 million. Assuming a $10 million gross estate (not including money in trust or funeral expenses), the tax ends up being 36% this year and 29.25% next year. The family still gets $5,600,000 million (2008) or $7,075,000 (2009), and that's only if the estate was planned poorly. |
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Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Sep 4 23:08:53 2008, in response to Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 4 22:13:03 2008. Ms. Pelin's daughter will have her immediate and extended families support and will likely be okay in life.Sure, she'll live a great life being forced into marriage at 17. Not so with barack hussein obama's brother who has been forsaken by his successful brother and continues to live in a mud and tin hovel in Kenya You mean the half brother who was born twenty years after Barack's parents divorced? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 4 23:31:33 2008, in response to Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Sep 4 23:08:53 2008. He happens to be his older brother. But what the hell. He's an embarrassment to the democratic candidate so let him rot in his tin & mud shack in some cholorea riddled hell-hole in Kenya. |
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Re: Obama's ''Forgotten'' (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention) |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Sep 5 11:17:54 2008, in response to Re: Obama's ''Forgotten'' (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:30:27 2008. The difference is that Obama's brother is an adult, and he is where he is because of the choices he made.Palin's daughter is also where she is because of the choices she made; however she is not an adult. The choices she has made run counter to the public stance that her mother takes on those particular issues. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Sep 5 11:18:41 2008, in response to Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 4 23:31:33 2008. There aren't members of your family you don't want to have anything to do with? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 5 13:13:51 2008, in response to Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by vfrt on Mon Sep 1 13:33:17 2008. Damn, how the hell does this thread get so many replies? Is it really 'that interesting'? |
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Posted by MJF on Fri Sep 5 15:21:51 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 2 19:26:11 2008. IAWTP. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 15:26:43 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 2 23:34:30 2008. Where does this come from? What does that have to do with Hank's post?And what about all of Obama's flip flopping? He has more flip flops than a crowd at a beach. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Sep 5 15:34:27 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 2 19:26:11 2008. Haven't read of any such studies; however, I believe it is better to explain ALL the options than to present only one option. |
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Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by MJF on Fri Sep 5 15:35:57 2008, in response to Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 4 22:13:03 2008. I think Sarah Palin's 17-year old daughter will be FAR from all right. She'll be the pregnant daughter of a Vice-President, who's pregnancy is going to play out during a Presidential campaign, probalby being forced into a marriage by her parents for appearance sake. Same things apply for her boyfirend. I'm sure he's not too thrilled at the prospects that lie ahead for him.Not a very good beginning for 2 teenagers. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Sep 5 15:52:03 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 2 19:26:11 2008. If the daughter is lesbian, or, if she likes guys, if she only allows sex via the behind, then those are surefire ways of preventing pregnancy. But is anal sex good for the anus? Does it cause damage? It wasn't designed for sex, like the vagina, so are there consequences of anal sex? Maybe this is why her daughter got pregnant: she didn't know if anal sex was dangerous. But my idea is this: feces come out of the anus, and some feces are banana shaped. A banana is similar to a penis, in general shape. So the feces are like penisis coming out of your anus, but does the anus care if something is going in or out? Maybe not.Oh, and by the way, education is part of it. Having a god family is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!!! If the daughter is depressed or something, she will engage in self destructive behavior. 17 is too young to have a child in this society. She is too young, her mind isn't even in motherly mode I think. Most girls, even in their early 20s, are NOT READY to be mothers, psychologically. Though what do women consider more personal? Anal, vaginal, or oral sex? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Sep 5 16:40:33 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Sep 5 15:52:03 2008. I see what you do in your spare time... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 5 16:42:44 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Sep 5 15:52:03 2008. Wow. That was a MUST READ post for sure. |
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POST OF THE YEAR!! (Was Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Sep 5 16:48:29 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Sep 5 15:52:03 2008. LMAO @ at this post!! Another classic!! |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 5 16:53:22 2008, in response to POST OF THE YEAR!! (Was Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Sep 5 16:48:29 2008. Perhaps he should learn how to do his own research with, say, Google. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 17:01:26 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Sep 5 15:52:03 2008.  |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Sep 5 17:04:50 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Sep 5 15:52:03 2008. Btw a eracted penis is much more harder and thicker and can do more damage than number two. N2 does no damage whats so ever to a girl's behind, Not to mention N2 is not pounding into you with a 100+ pound man behind it. Also its possable that palin's daugher has no ass(Meaning its not thick or fat) So the kid's father just F***ed her in the vagina the whole time instead, with a blowjob or two.And girl's anal's were not made for sex IIRC. |
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Re: POST OF THE YEAR!! (Was Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by JohnL on Fri Sep 5 17:15:48 2008, in response to Re: POST OF THE YEAR!! (Was Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 5 16:53:22 2008. …or Chiquita or Fyffes… |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 5 17:20:16 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Sep 5 17:04:50 2008. Perhaps he should Google whether anal sex causes damage rather than going this OT.Maybe those Christianofascist wannabe censors have a point... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 5 17:40:41 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:48:52 2008. It's not a "windfall".Yes it is. Look it up. The person who died worked their asses off to make that money (or maybe they didn't but it was THEIRS). If it weren't for the United States government forming a more perfect union, establishing justice, insuring domestic tranquility, providing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty to us and our posterity, then they wouldn't have had that money. but it's still almost HALF of those people's money going to taxes. That's not right. Once again you completely ignore what I say. To help, I'll quote myself: "It may be excessive but that doesn't mean the tax is inherently bad." Are you having trouble understanding? In what way does a tax being excessive mean that such a tax at a lower rate would remain unfair? Note that I am not making a judgment on whether the rate is excessive or not, I am proposing that it may be for the sake of argument. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 5 17:49:04 2008, in response to Re: Obama's ''Forgotten'' (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:30:07 2008. How is the Democratic Party (I assume that's what you mean by YOUR) making an issue of Palin's daughter? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 17:49:20 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 5 17:40:41 2008. Tax is not inherently bad. But what is the best way to moderate between populace and government as to how it's properly spent, versus selfishly? Both governor and governed are capable of "voting" themselves "money out of the treasury". |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 5 17:50:21 2008, in response to Re: Obama's ''Forgotten'' (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Sep 5 11:17:54 2008. As far as the State of Alaska is concerned however, Bristol Palin is free to make the choice she made. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 5 17:53:02 2008, in response to Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Sep 4 23:08:53 2008. Why do you (and MJF) assume that they are being "forced" into marriage. It's also likely that they want to marry. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 5 18:01:10 2008, in response to Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 5 17:53:02 2008. Five months in IS a bit of time, no? |
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Posted by Ken S. on Fri Sep 5 18:07:37 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Sep 5 15:52:03 2008. If this doesn't get him the B7, I don't know what will. |
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Posted by MJF on Fri Sep 5 18:24:04 2008, in response to Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 5 17:53:02 2008. To be fair, we don't know if the teens are being pressured to marry, or if a date has even been set. However, IMO, it goes against the picture that Sarah Palin paints of herself as a "PTA president, hockey mom, to expect that she was okay with her daughter having her baby out of wedlock.I think you would agree that the general perception is that a 17-year old who hasn't yet graduated high school is too immature to be married. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 21:15:30 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 22:14:43 2008. However...a female beginning menstruation doesn't necessarily mean the female is ready to bear children. Yes, every female is different, but keep in mind menstruation these days begins as young as 10 with females. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 5 22:17:57 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 21:15:30 2008. "but keep in mind menstruation these days begins as young as 10 with females."And what about males as long as you specified females? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 22:21:15 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 5 22:17:57 2008. Puberty is reached as young as 9 these days.Just the facts. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 5 22:31:59 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 22:21:15 2008. But are you so liberal that you have to specify that menstruation begins as early as 10 in females as if it's different for males? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 22:36:37 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 5 22:31:59 2008. Those are the facts, however, as I have learned in school, and it may be even younger now...as young as 8 in males and as young as 10 in females.Also, my response was a continuation from the previous post, where the as young as implication should have been apparent. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 5 22:43:43 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 22:36:37 2008. He's not talking about the age. He's saying that there was no need to say females since males don't menstruate. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 22:48:01 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Easy on Fri Sep 5 22:43:43 2008. Oops! My bad. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 22:48:44 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Easy on Fri Sep 5 22:43:43 2008. Usually...but explain the man who recently gave birth (and was the unfortunte butt of jokes from late night comedy). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 02:31:00 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Easy on Fri Sep 5 22:43:43 2008. Which is ridiculous because he could have said people and then someone would have complained that half of all people never menstruate. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 02:32:02 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 5 22:48:44 2008. You mean the woman who made herself look like an effeminate man who gave birth?If she had become a man she wouldn't have had a uterus anymore. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 03:26:08 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 02:31:00 2008. Seems to be quite a few menstruating males around here. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Sep 6 05:16:23 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Sep 5 15:52:03 2008. Interesting insights. |
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