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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 3 22:10:02 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AlM on Wed Sep 3 13:34:03 2008. What about $1.1 million to dependent children? |
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Re: Higgs Boson Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Sep 3 22:25:29 2008, in response to Higgs Boson Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Sep 3 20:59:34 2008. It is all infinite reasoning. And by the way, it is just that the EQUATIONS of the current particle physics theories are flawed. They suggest that particles have no mass. But that isn't really the case, is it?Man will never "figure out" the universe like that. At least not in this stage. Some things, like the word "the", are just too fundamental to explain. Even if the "Higgs Boson" were discovered, what would it change? Instead of saying all matter hass mass, we will be taught that all matter containing "higgs bosons" have mass. But we still won't know what mass is. Get my point? See how this LHC (and how it is used) is a total waste of intellect, and money? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 3 22:30:22 2008, in response to Re: Higgs Boson Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Sep 3 22:25:29 2008. Even if the "Higgs Boson" were discovered, what would it change?This is the only part of your post that makes sense. Just about. The rest is unmitigated nonsense. So, is Sarah Palin's daughter going to discover the Higgs Boson? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 3 22:31:29 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 2 00:32:38 2008. The economy has always run in cycles and will right itself without government helpNo, that's false. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 3 22:32:16 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 2 07:25:21 2008. In his world, no economies collapse. Unless it's due to "government help". Libertarian capitalism leads to slavery . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 3 22:35:22 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 2 02:47:25 2008. People overwhemingly think that that the Bush-Cheney neocon foreign policy has been a catastrophic failureSo it's people's perception that is reality? The only "failure" thus far is the fear of confronting Iran, and sucking up to the UN and EU as though we were their servants. The reason Obama is a little bit behind McCain when it comes to international affairs is due to his perceived lack of experience No, he really does lack experience. What capped it was his declaration of intent to talk to Iran "without preconditions" and his describing the European Union as "history's most successful democratization strategy (which is not what the EU is at all; it's history's sneakiest totalitarianization strategy). |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Sep 3 22:40:35 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 2 00:32:38 2008. Sound like a typical republican. You should read up about the great depression. Ever heard of the new deal? Roosevelt?Don't worry, you are not alone in your thoughts, those republicans think like you. Except they have interests, they make the money, you will be another idiot who is wondering why the economy didn't "fix itself", and why you have difficulty providing basic needs for your family. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Sep 3 22:43:54 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 3 22:35:22 2008. "which is not what the EU is at all; it's history's sneakiest totalitarianization strategy). "But you are the only one who knows that...hmm...I really doubt those countries will ever want to give up their independance. And who is sucking up the the UN? Last time I heard nobody takes them seriously. And how are we sucking up to the EU? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 3 23:12:55 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Sep 3 22:43:54 2008. you are the only one who knows thatIf you actually took the time to use search engines instead of spending too much time on here, you'd see I'm not "the only one who knows that". I really doubt those countries will ever want to give up their independance The people don't. But their own politicians are subverting democracy in order to comply with the EU federal structure. That's why the EU Constitution was turned into a "treaty" after it was voted down by a number of countries, so that the people wouldn't get to vote on it. who is sucking up the the UN? Last time I heard nobody takes them seriously If only that were the truth. But everything foreign-policy related is still being forced through the UN, who continues to put bloodthirsty dictators in charge of their "Human Rights Council", among other travesties. how are we sucking up to the EU? How aren't we? McCain and Obama want them to expand their military capabilities so that they can get more involved in the role of world police. Obama's Brandenburg Gate speech was all about kissing up to the EU (consider his opening words). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 3 23:13:49 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 3 12:36:17 2008. So you believe that the estate tax is burdensome on a person standing to inherit that much.Why is it that you also believe that it's burdensome on the person standing to inherit $10 million, or $100 million? Because eliminating the estate tax means eliminating it for them too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 3 23:14:50 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Sep 3 15:14:09 2008. No. It's perfectly legal. If she hasn't finished high school, why would this prevent her from doing so? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 3 23:16:34 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 3 15:40:40 2008. What the hell are you talking about? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 3 23:17:14 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 3 20:12:41 2008. This case is so minor as to be irrelevant. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 3 23:17:25 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 2 17:39:54 2008. I'm aware of that. And it'll continue to "fester" until it's resolved. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 00:05:45 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 3 12:15:59 2008. It's exactly the way Palin said it....he is for whatever the people he is talking to at the time is for. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 00:11:52 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 3 20:14:38 2008. When you tax business more, those costs are then passed onto consumers. You say it doesn't affect you? If you buy anything, it affects you.And who the hell are you to say "I" am sadly misinformed. Who are you to think you are more informed than me about economics. And who are you to say that your views are more correct than mine. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 4 00:24:54 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 3 12:15:59 2008. Da, tovarish . . . |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 00:35:55 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Sep 3 22:40:35 2008. The New Deal did not bring about the end of the Great Depression, and it would not have even if it were given time. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 4 00:58:17 2008, in response to Re: Palin is a hypocrite, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Sep 2 23:34:11 2008. If Palin didn't want to dictate to evety woman how to liveShe's not running for dictator. to turn the knife back on her, why didn't she pay more attention to her kids and provide better guidance? You pushing the traditional family? Didn't know you were a conservative. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 4 00:59:29 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Forest Glen on Mon Sep 1 23:58:59 2008. the economy continues to tank and we're still in IraqSeparate issues with separate ways of resolution. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 01:04:40 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 3 23:13:49 2008. I have no problem with people with that kind of money passing it on from one generation to the next. Government does not deserve a cent. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 03:02:30 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 01:04:40 2008. What problem do you have with taxing money with the lowest marginal utility? Or is it that you're against all taxes? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 4 03:49:38 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 3 12:36:17 2008. $2,000,000 is not a lot of money for a middle-class estate.Estate taxes kick in at a much higher amount then that. Somebody who inherits $2,000,000 would owe Uncle Sam the grand total of ZERO dollars. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 03:53:29 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 03:02:30 2008. I just don't believe in the "death tax". It's excessive. 45% of everything over $2,000,000. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 04:04:26 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 4 03:49:38 2008. You are very wrong. In 2007, the government gets 45% over $2million. In 2010, it's zero. I can only imagine how busy law enforcement will be investigating deaths that year.If someone inherits $2,400,000 in 2007, they paid $180,000 to the IRS. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 4 05:04:15 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 04:04:26 2008. You are very wrong. In 2007, the government gets 45% over $2million.In 2009 the exception rises to $3.5m per person. That's $7m per couple. If someone inherits $2,400,000 in 2007, they paid $180,000 to the IRS. I thought Freedom wasn't free. Keeping $2,220,000 out of $2.4m sounds like a good deal to me. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 4 06:16:16 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 3 23:14:50 2008. I'd imagine that it would be way harder to raise a baby when you're still in high school and vice-versa. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 07:59:22 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 3 20:12:41 2008. Who cares? No one cares except for the extreme liberals that "just need something". It's so unimportant. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Sep 4 08:25:43 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 07:59:22 2008. its less unimportant than travelgate under Clintons. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 08:58:56 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 3 15:40:40 2008. There may be questions regarding if the body is ready, but that's not relevant to the question at hand.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! It's SOCIETY that has placed that 17 year old can't have babies, not the "body". The body is perfectly capable to have babies at even younger than that. I certainly don't condone it in our SOCIETY....however, where do you get that "the body isn't ready" at 17? That's ridiculous. The human body was designed to reproduce MUCH younger than we reproduce. Its SOCIETY that keeps pushing the reprduction age older and older. My grandmother was married at 17, and had 2 kids before she was 20. And that was normal back then. Obviously, in modern society, that's not done, and shouldn't, but don't say that the body isn't designed for it, as it is. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 09:01:14 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Sep 3 15:14:09 2008. I didn't say I didn't find it "unfortunate", but I did say it's complete non-issue as to the vice presidential candidate. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Sep 4 10:50:06 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 3 20:09:08 2008. Except there is no 'in the middle' party; for that is the candidate I, and most of the silent majority, would vote for. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 11:21:16 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 00:11:52 2008. Who said the taxes would be on businesses, however? Stop assuming stuff.I know it affects me, and the quality of service I am getting as a result is not good, to say the least. WHY? Because necessary services are UNDERFUNDED. And why are they underfunded? Because taxes were cut so low that services people need, and that the government should be funding, are unable to avail themselves of the services. And I ask you again: What would be YOUR alternative to raising taxes? I've yet to hear an answer. If you don't have an answer...you don't know what you are talking about, which leads me to wonder why you made your counterclaim in the first place. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 11:22:22 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 3 00:20:09 2008. Even after they end up hit with the facts? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 11:28:03 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 08:58:56 2008. No actually...I'm not speaking from a societal point of view, actually. I'm speaking from a scientific point of view. If you thought I was speaking from societal POV...that would be the first mistake.The human body was designed to reproduce MUCH younger than we reproduce Science disagrees with you on this...and the basis is in increased risk of ovarian cancer in those with pregnancies before age 21. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 11:34:45 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 11:28:03 2008. The only reason why I haven't posted any articles yet...although you could find some using PubMed, is because the articles are not available freely. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 11:36:09 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 00:11:52 2008. Show me where I said taxes on businesses...because that isn't what I said, nor should it have been. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 12:16:16 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 11:22:22 2008. what facts? was it a fact that Hillary's husband Bill cheated on her over-and-over and she stayed with him, yet women voted for her for NY Senate in a landslide. Shouldn't that make her everything feminists are against? Again, many women vote with their pussies, and McCain is hoping they do it again in November. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 12:20:29 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 12:16:16 2008. what facts? was it a fact that Hillary's husband Bill cheated on her over-and-over and she stayed with him, yet women voted for her for NY Senate in a landslide.Huh? You're saying Hillary should have been blamed for Bill's deeds, where she was the victim, not the perpetrator? Do you also blame McCain's first wife for his misdeeds? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 12:24:48 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 12:20:29 2008. I'm saying, these aren't the traits of a so-called"liberated strong woman", and that women vote with their vaginas. Not blaming her for what Bill did, only for staying with him. Palin is not a victim, which women like, so it could cost her votes. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 12:50:48 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 12:16:16 2008. I'm not sure. BTW, I wound up abstaining from that election in 2000, as Hilary turned me off. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 12:53:59 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 12:50:48 2008. if you were the proud owner of a vagina, you would've voted for her. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 12:55:19 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 12:53:59 2008. Are you implying that Hilary supporters will vote for McCain just because Palin is on the ticket? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 12:57:42 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 4 06:16:16 2008. Many, however, have succeeded in completing high school and beyond, even as teen moms. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 13:11:06 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 12:55:19 2008. If even a percentage do, McCain could win. Go to Rasmussenreports and read the latest poll on the backlash of negative ocverage of Palin. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 14:00:21 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 13:11:06 2008. Wow...talk about dumb and dumberer. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 15:42:48 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 3 20:07:23 2008. And the extremist Lfetists are just as damaging. Look at the group of assholes outside the converntion. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 18:08:52 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 14:00:21 2008. which one are you? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 22:02:03 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 4 03:53:29 2008. It may be excessive but that doesn't mean the tax is inherently bad. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 22:04:09 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 4 12:57:42 2008. Not only that but this baby will be raised by two people and they will have the support of her family and probably his family as well. |
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