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Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 12:05:23 2008

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Sen. Jesse Helms dies at 86-----good riddance , !!!
Republican known as 'Senator No' served 30 years before retiring in 2003
RALEIGH, North Carolina - Former Republican Sen. Jesse Helms, a leading conservative from North Carolina who served 30 years in the Senate before retiring in 2003, has died, the Jesse Helms Center said Friday. He was 86.

"Former United States Senator Jesse Helms died at 1:15 a.m. this morning in Raleigh," the center, which is based at Wingate University, said on its Web site.

Jimmy Broughton, Helms' former chief of staff, said the former senator died of natural causes in Raleigh.

The blunt-talking Helms was known as "Senator No" for opposing just about anything that obstructed his conservative view of the world.

Helms built a career along the fault lines of racial politics and battled liberals, Communists and the occasional fellow Republican during his decades in Congress. He was slowed in later age by a variety of illnesses, including a bone disorder, prostate cancer and heart problems.
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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 4 12:43:42 2008, in response to Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 12:05:23 2008.

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He had hardening of the categories...

Actually, he played his "ideological purity" to build a stage for himself. It was more about Jesse than ideology.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 4 13:03:23 2008, in response to Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 12:05:23 2008.

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You are scum.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 4 13:36:05 2008, in response to Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 12:05:23 2008.

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This is the cretin who made the GOP look bad. Hopefully he's rotting in hell.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by R30A on Fri Jul 4 13:53:50 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 4 13:36:05 2008.

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Jesse Helms is the ONE who made the GOP look bad?

It isn't like the rest of the GOP didnt hurt the party either...

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 4 14:04:04 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 4 13:36:05 2008.

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Not like you can single out democrats who make the party look bad. Most of them are so crokked, they must be screwed into the ground upon their death.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 18:06:32 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 4 13:03:23 2008.

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Jesse Helms was scum. I wouldn't wish death on anyone, but I won't miss him at all.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 18:08:58 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 4 13:36:05 2008.

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He didn't make the GOP look bad. He made them look like exactly what they wanted to look like with their Southern Strategy.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by RiverLINE3501 on Fri Jul 4 19:31:40 2008, in response to Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 12:05:23 2008.

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Good riddance.

May his RACIST, HOMOPHOBE soul burn in hell for all eternity.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 4 19:44:03 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 18:06:32 2008.

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Chris knows that, liberal that he is.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 4 21:41:24 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by RiverLINE3501 on Fri Jul 4 19:31:40 2008.

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Yeah, not like Robert Byrd

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 22:04:09 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 4 21:41:24 2008.

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When Byrd was at his worst as a member of the Klan in the 50's he was still more moderate than Helms ever was.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 22:04:37 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 22:04:09 2008.

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Klan in the 40's I meant.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jul 4 22:18:47 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 4 14:04:04 2008.

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Richard Nixon was not a Democrat.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by BMT Guy on Fri Jul 4 22:30:53 2008, in response to Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 12:05:23 2008.

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What took him so long to kick? After all God don't like ugly!

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 4 22:40:46 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 4 14:04:04 2008.

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I'll have to apologize for our argument when that Louisiana dude got busted with cash in his freezer.
As that's the last scandal left of a certain prez candidate, I expect that to break the news next.

A subprime candidate with a subprime loan. How fitting.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 5 10:12:49 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 22:04:09 2008.

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When Byrd was at his worst as a member of the Klan in the 50's he was still more moderate than Helms ever was.\

Byrd represented the KKK, not exactly a "love thy neighbor" organization.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 5 10:16:19 2008, in response to Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 12:05:23 2008.

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Cool, those cartons of cigarettes I was sending him for birthday and christmas were getting pricey :D

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:14:32 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 18:06:32 2008.

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He was not scum. He just disagreed with your world view. I disagreed with George Carlin's views, yet I never called him scum.

Hate and liberalism....perfect together.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:15:36 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 22:04:09 2008.

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So it's OK to have been a member of the Klan, but it's not OK to have opposed gay marriage?

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:15:57 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by RiverLINE3501 on Fri Jul 4 19:31:40 2008.

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Another scumbag.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:18:16 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 4 13:36:05 2008.

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Look bad to whom?

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:19:15 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jul 4 22:18:47 2008.

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Richard Nixon was not a crook ....

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 5 13:28:31 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:19:15 2008.

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And he said so!!

However, Watergate proved otherwise.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by MJF on Sat Jul 5 13:30:01 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 5 13:28:31 2008.

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Liar, crook, why quibble?

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:31:43 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 5 13:28:31 2008.

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Uh, no. He was never convicted or even charged with a crime. He wasn't even impeached. He was not a crook.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 13:52:59 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:14:32 2008.

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You're such a hipocrite. Elsswhere in this thread you called Sallam scum yet you don't agree with his views. So typical of you, Mr Mom.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 13:54:14 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:19:15 2008.

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rotflmao, oh wait you're serious. I'm sorry.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 13:56:03 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:31:43 2008.

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HAHAHAHA

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 13:57:10 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:18:16 2008.

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Most people with an IQ above 78.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 13:58:40 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:15:57 2008.

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...and you're still a hipocrite.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 5 14:19:10 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 5 10:12:49 2008.

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Everyone knows that. FYI I don't give a shit about Byrd. He can rot in hell with Helms as far as I concerned.

But Byrd has not promoted the same agenda as Helms and hasn't been anywhere near as influential as Helms was. It's really the racial politics that Helms introduced, or more accurately never abandoned even well into the 90's, that I didn't like.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 5 14:24:09 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:15:36 2008.

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No, it's not okay to have been a member of the KKK, but that's a totally separate issue than having problems with their political positions and votes.

Besides what makes you think that I'm for gay marriage?

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 14:29:19 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 5 14:24:09 2008.

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Chrissies hobby is obfuscating the issue.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jul 5 14:38:44 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:19:15 2008.

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["Richard Nixon was not a crook ...."]


Actually he was, and I voted for him so it's not out of any bias that I say that. Read the transcripts of the tapes. Read how he actually mentioned the possibility of getting the mafia to help with the coverup.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 5 14:45:15 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 4 13:03:23 2008.

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..only in YOUR opinion , wrong of cource !!
lol

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 5 14:47:35 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by BMT Guy on Fri Jul 4 22:30:53 2008.

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yea !!
i know
damnn
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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 5 14:47:57 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 5 10:16:19 2008.

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lol

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Jul 5 14:48:01 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:31:43 2008.

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Clinton was never convicted of any crime either.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Jul 5 15:37:29 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 13:54:14 2008.

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Chris is always serious and biased, if Nixon was a Democrat then we will hear no end about the "crook".

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Jul 5 15:39:11 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 4 13:03:23 2008.

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Not in this case, Helms voted to block the Civil Rights Act.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 5 15:40:47 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Jul 5 15:39:11 2008.

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The Civil Rights Act is the root of the right's scorn for liberals.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 5 16:25:07 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 13:52:59 2008.

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What are Salaam's "views"? Do you know?

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 5 16:26:52 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 13:58:40 2008.

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A what?



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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 5 18:03:59 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jul 5 14:38:44 2008.

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PWNED, haha

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is Dead

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 5 18:19:22 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jul 5 14:38:44 2008.

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Nixon = t3h l1b.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 5 21:06:23 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 4 22:04:09 2008.

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I applaud you. It's speaks volumes that you can excuse the absolutely worst, most abhorent racist behavior in the name of partisan politics. You are in the running for hypocrite of the year.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by JPC on Sat Jul 5 21:20:58 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 5 10:16:19 2008.

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I hope you're still keeping up with the shipments of pretzels to George Bush and the Surprise!-popping-out-snakes-of-a-box to Cheney.

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 5 21:27:14 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 5 21:06:23 2008.

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In minor defense of Byrd, he changed his ways eventually and undid some of his early damage. Helms, on the other hand, remained a racist sack of shit to the very end. :(

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Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 6 00:09:59 2008, in response to Re: Sen. Jesse Helms is DEAD !!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 5 21:06:23 2008.

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Not partisan. I already said that Byrd can rot for all I care, but I don't know as much about him as I do Helms. I lived in NC when Helms was at his most powerful so I know a lot about him. On one hand Byrd was in the KKK decades before I was even born. On the other hand Jesse Helms was on the floor of the US Senate calling Martin Luther King Jr. a communist and womanizer on the floor of the Senate in opposition to a national holiday when I was in high school.

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