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Posted by Fred G on Thu May 15 10:09:05 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 00:14:19 2008. Can't afford the Lincoln, dearie, we're going with the Pontiac. The Republicans spent all the money, can't afford another war.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 15 10:10:32 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Easy on Thu May 15 10:04:13 2008. Oh yes, that's right, Blacks need different education because blacks and whites have "different brains".Sounds like a return to seperatism and segregation in schools too me. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 15 10:11:32 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Easy on Thu May 15 10:04:13 2008. And you forgot to address the more important part of that post, the part we were discussing:It was well recieved by his intended audience. The people that were there. Am I thinking of the right one? LOL!! Of course it was! A KKK speech would be well recieved by it's intended audience too! It was NOT well recieved by the majority of the American public. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 15 10:13:33 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 10:02:05 2008. And you know what? I heard it FIRST here on Subtalk. Yes indeed, and I watch the news everyday. I NEVER heard the 57 states thing, and kept seeing it in posts with people saying "All 57 States", and didn't understand why people kept saying that. It wasn't until someone posted a link of Obama saying that that I realized what was going on, and that OBAMA actually said that.If McCain had said that it would have been in our livingrooms every 1/2 hour. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu May 15 10:14:16 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 15 10:04:47 2008. His slip up was funny, but that flag lapel is funnier!I don't agree with much of what's on conservative radio, but it's often entertaining. Liberal radio is much less entertaining and a little weird. Our conservative radio in LA is fairly liberal compared to Rush and Hannity. It's more populist, I guess. If they think that a Republican has screwed up they'll call them on it as much as they will a Democrat. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu May 15 10:17:37 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 15 10:13:33 2008. That Sunni/Shiite mixup went for a day or so. Plus Lieberman had to correct him as he didn't catch it himself.Thing was, McCain mixed that one up at more than one speech. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 10:18:52 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Easy on Thu May 15 10:14:16 2008. Liberal radio is much less entertaining because they don't offer opposing points of view. It's just one viewpoint, in rant fashion. Same with liberal tv like Olbermann.If you listen to Hannity, Medved, or Prager, they always have liberal guests on. ALWAYS. I guess the mentality is that liberals represent the oppressed, and the oppressed should never be opposed. So what don't you agree with on Republican AM radio? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 10:20:15 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 15 10:13:33 2008. The NYTimes would be relentless if McCain said the same thing. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 15 10:32:12 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 10:18:52 2008. "If you listen to Hannity..."I used to listen to Rush and Hannity daily but switched to CBS-FM when it changed from Jack. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu May 15 10:38:27 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses ObamaRe: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 09:45:54 2008. I know that, i said i found them interesting..I was talking about the "other" part of your statement.. |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Thu May 15 11:19:38 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. All three suck balls. It's a choice between National Socialism(McCain), Communism(Hillary) and Louis Fakarharn(Obama). Colin Powell should have run.So with that said, I'd go with Obama, only becuase I don't think he has a agenda. Plus, maybe it'll give pause to AAs as to improve themselves. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu May 15 11:34:05 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by shiznit1987 on Thu May 15 11:19:38 2008. There is absolutely no way that Colin Powell could win a general election. Liberal Republican + black Republican + UN testimony - all credibility = big loser. |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Thu May 15 11:39:27 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Easy on Thu May 15 11:34:05 2008. Well, I know there is no chance now, but he could have done it before.*sigh*, I simply don't have the enthusiasm for any of them. None of them are going to work for the "little guy", so why bother? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 17:42:17 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by Fred G on Thu May 15 10:09:05 2008. Ummmm ... sorry, mate ... no Pontiac either. Here, have a Schwinn ...
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 17:47:17 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. Mine will have to be earned by one candidate or the other. But looking at the home front and the economy (which to me is the biggest issue, along with social security), McCain doesn't seem quite up to the job, as Republicans had 12 years to fix the soon-to-be-broken situation. Also, failure to regulate subprime lending that then caused this current financial crisis is something that Republicans didn't see or didn't care to fix.As such, McCain and Republicans had their chance to fix it and threw up the proverbial brick at the free-throw line. I would at the moment be leaning to Obama (although I am not beholden to either candidate)...and this would have to do with the economy...not ideology, not the war in Iraq...but the basic bread-and-butter issues. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 17:49:39 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 13 19:05:15 2008. To endorse McCain, however, would be to endorse failed economic policies. Keep in mind the Republicans did nothing to prevent the current economic state. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 17:50:51 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:18:55 2008. McCain also needs to offer a clear solution to economic policies of Bush that have failed. If he does and Obama doesn't, I would have to vote for McCain. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 17:54:42 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 19:41:08 2008. McCain, however, is proposing something stupid in calling for a gas tax holiday...something Obama (correctly) wants no part of.Also, letting some...but not all...of the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010 isn't a bad thing...but that may not be the President's call (as much as it may be Nancy Pelosi and Charles Rangel's call in terms of committee and up-or-down). But each tax must be evaluated case-by-case. Tax and spend >>>>>>>> borrow and spend. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 17:56:34 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 19:48:17 2008. The main reason why I, as a Democrat, will never vote for Hilary: She simply turns me off. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu May 15 17:57:14 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed May 14 20:57:49 2008. They keep changing their votes, so apparently they didn't cast their votes officially. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 18:11:59 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 17:49:39 2008. And they just keep making it WORSE ... Australian dollar is worth more than ours. Canadian dollar is worth more than ours. Won't even bother mentioning the Euro. How long until parity with the Peso? :( |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 18:23:24 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 14 23:51:22 2008. Democrats, however, have also run the city during the best of times...Bloomberg was a RINO who only switched to the Republican party to avoid a primary....and then switched out of parties altogether. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 20:09:06 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 17:42:17 2008. WOW!! That is a NICE bike. Even has a nice headlight i see. It has no geear ranges, but believe me, that is OK, even for hills, just gotta use more muscle, but top speed downhil isn't as good.PS, at least the chineese no longer have to ride bicycles, but choke on the smog from their new plentiful autos. Sometimes, the Schwinn CAN be a better option, as it was for the chineese. Some people here in america could definately use a bike ride rather than car ride. Wonder how the low economy will effect people, or will the evil mcdonald's still be affordable? Probably it will, the government must have planned this. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu May 15 20:12:19 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 17:42:17 2008. Is that a pre-war bike? And when I mean pre-war I'm taklin' bout the Civil War! LOL! |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 20:20:53 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 20:09:06 2008. PS, at least the chineese no longer have to ride bicycles, but choke on the smog from their new plentiful autos. Sometimes, the Schwinn CAN be a better option, as it was for the chineese. Some people here in america could definately use a bike ride rather than car ride. Wonder how the low economy will effect people, or will the evil mcdonald's still be affordable? Probably it will, the government must have planned this.This is a major fallacy. Plenty of people in China still ride bicycles. You need to remember that while China's middle class (those able to afford cars) is steadily growing, most of the country remains poor. Also, food at "evil mcdonald's" in China is noticeably more expensive than the food that most people eat. A standard Big Mac in China will cost about 20 yuan; compare that with 4 yuan for a container of 10 jiaozi in a local restaurant. And it's spelled "Chinese", not "chineese". |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 20:22:14 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 20:09:06 2008. It would appear that the only thing government has planned is their own retirement. :(
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 20:22:47 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by BMT Guy on Thu May 15 20:12:19 2008. It's the new "booming economy" model. :) |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 20:34:59 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 18:11:59 2008. We are progressing towards a unified currency with Afghanistan, i think. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 20:56:35 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 17:49:39 2008. Nor did the Donkeys. And they have no answer to the problem. It's very, very bipartisan. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 20:57:19 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:18:55 2008. He's another Eurobrownnoser, sad to say. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 20:58:34 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by shiznit1987 on Thu May 15 11:19:38 2008. You're exaggerating, by far. You're also trying to mask the truth about them being all the same, in essence. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 20:59:33 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 17:47:17 2008. "Change" for change's sake? However, "Change" is not guaranteed to be change. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 22:41:10 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 20:59:33 2008. Or, change to fix the problem...which is that Social Security is going to be broke within the next president's term. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 22:42:35 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 15 22:41:10 2008. Wow, singling out one problem that is not guaranteed to be fixed. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 15 23:14:52 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. Tom Tancredo. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 23:17:23 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 15 23:14:52 2008. Hah. More GOP Neoconservatism with much cloaked liberalism. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 02:21:38 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 17:42:17 2008. Dayum, look at that combination headlight/marital aid. And that's a 2 six pack rack on the back, jack!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 16 02:26:56 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 02:21:38 2008. How much would you NOW expect to pay? But don't answer yet, we'll also throw in two bungee cords AND the wind chimes! :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 02:33:14 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 17:42:17 2008. Nice bike. Designed for the fairer sex, too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 02:34:33 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Fred G on Thu May 15 08:12:20 2008. I'm not President. Chickenhawks talk hawkish but are dovish in true foreign policy. Stop falling back on talking points. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 03:09:22 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 02:34:33 2008. No, chickenhawks urge war but don't fight themselves.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 03:12:03 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 03:09:22 2008. chickenhawks urge war but don't fight themselvesThen none exist. Bush certainly isn't urging war. He's just following the PNAC formula. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 03:13:20 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 03:12:03 2008. And that reminds me: Germany must be full of chickenhawks. They urged war in the Balkans for no reason whatsoever. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 03:13:53 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 03:12:03 2008. And that reminds me: Germany must be full of chickenhawks. They urged war in the Balkans for no reason whatsoever, and had NATO and the USA fight it for them. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 03:24:37 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 03:13:53 2008. If what you say is true (?? LOL) then they are. But there were other reasons NATO went to war in the Balkans other than simply at Germany's request.Bringing up your hatred of Germans doesn't deflect your own hypocrisy. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 03:30:22 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 13 22:35:25 2008. My God, we actually agree on something. TR was quite possibly our greatest President, when all factors are considered.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 03:31:35 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 03:24:37 2008. there were other reasons NATO went to war in the Balkans other than simply at Germany's requestSuch as? If you say there were other reasons, then you should have been able to cite them. Bringing up your hatred of German (hegemonic policies) doesn't deflect your own hypocrisy How can I be a hypocrite when I'm not a politician and can't lead troops to victory? (That's what you're telling me to do, in the end; become a politician. Soldiers have to obey orders and they cannot affect the outcome of a war by themselves.) |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 03:39:41 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 03:31:35 2008. By your logic you should have furnished proff that Germany urged war before you demand proff from me. More of your blatant hypocrisy.One needn't be a politician to be a hypocrite. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 04:17:43 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 16 02:26:56 2008. But wait, that's not all! In addition to the In The Egg Scrambler, you'll receive not one, not two, but 3 bedsheets with eye holes, perfect for that menage a klan with your Luchist friends :Dyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 16 04:23:04 2008, in response to Re: Edwards endorses Obama (was Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?), posted by Fred G on Fri May 16 04:17:43 2008. Heh. I tell ya ... the absolute degree of hostility towards others expressed by so MANY in these various invectives here has actually caused me to no longer give a qwap about the Middle East ... seems they DESERVE each other if OTchat is a true indicative of respect of others, and killing those who want to kill you (justified homicide) ... I'm actually VERY disappointed in all I've been reading here lately. :(And NO point in trying to tell anyone "get your OWN country in order before you start telling others how to run THEIRS." That "lead by example" stuff we used to do before the republican party became national socialist. :( |
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