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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Oct 9 14:09:27 2026 Nashville has transformed from "Music City" into one of the fastest-growing and most successful metropolitan hubs in the United States through a combination of economic diversification, business-friendly policies, and a booming cultural and tourist appeal. Key Drivers of Nashville's Success • Business-Friendly Climate & No State Income Tax: Tennessee features a low-tax environment and no state income tax for workers, drawing major corporations and individuals relocating from higher-tax states. • Corporate Relocations & Tech Expansion: Major companies have heavily invested in the region, including Oracle (developing a $1.4 billion global headquarters campus) and Amazon (leasing over 1 million square feet of downtown office space and opening an East Coast hub), alongside regional offices for AllianceBernstein, Nissan, Bridgestone, and others. • Diversified Job Market: Beyond music, the local economy thrives on healthcare, technology, auto manufacturing, and finance, creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs over recent decades. • Massive Tourism & Entertainment Boom: With over 17 million yearly visitors generating record-breaking numbers (such as $11.6 billion in visitor spending), Nashville has become a prime destination for live music, conventions, and entertainment. • Major League Sports Growth: The city aggressively expanded its sports footprint by landing the Tennessee Titans (NFL), the Nashville Predators (NHL), Nashville SC (MLS), and minor league and college sports, anchoring downtown with major arenas and stadiums. • Quality of Life & Culture: The area maintains a blend of urban excitement, a rich creative and startup ecosystem, and a strong cultural identity that continues to attract roughly 90 new residents daily. And now for New York: New York City's economic importance is not flatlining—its massive GDP and financial sectors remain enormous—but it faces severe structural and competitive pressures that threaten its long-term dynamism, according to reports from the Citizens Budget Commission and the NYC Comptroller's Office. Key factors driving these challenges include: • High Cost of Living and Domestic Outmigration: High housing prices, steep everyday costs, and a net domestic loss of residents (with 114,000 more residents leaving than moving in recently) strain the local workforce and shrink the traditional tax base. • Highest Tax Burdens in the Nation: New York City has some of the highest combined personal and corporate tax rates in the country—including a top personal income rate of 14.776% and a combined corporate rate of 17.44%—which discourages some businesses and high earners from expanding or headquartering in the city. • Stagnant Job Growth & Business Net Losses: Overall job growth has largely flattened outside of sectors like Education, Health, and Government, alongside a net loss of small businesses and corporate headquarters. • Shifting Immigration Patterns: Fluctuations and tighter federal rules surrounding international immigration have sharply reduced a historic pipeline of population and labor growth. • Long-Term Fiscal Pressures: The city faces mounting structural budget gaps and high fixed expenses, forcing a delicate balance between funding public services and managing rising debt. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 9 14:30:42 2026, in response to AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Oct 9 14:09:27 2026. This comparison between Nashville and NYC is probably similar to a few other cities vs NYC.Columbus, OH Charlotte, NC Tampa, FL |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 9 14:37:07 2026, in response to AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Oct 9 14:09:27 2026. You don't need AI to tell you stuff like that, lol. So it's not because of Nashville's left-leaning mayor or metropolitan council, but because of the state government. NY(C) has the double whammy of far-left metropolitan and state governments. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 9 17:36:16 2026, in response to AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Oct 9 14:09:27 2026. As for crime: Nashville has an overall crime rate (rape, robbery, aggravated assault, etc) of 1124 per 100.000. In NYC, the murder rate is 4.1% per 100'000, much lower than the national average. Nashville has a murder rate of appx 10% per 100,000. All FBI stats. Point being, living is fundamental. You are safer in NYC than Nashville. You have to stay alive to reap any"benefits" achieved by living in Nashville. I like the NYC odds better. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 9 18:25:14 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 9 17:36:16 2026. Thanks for the crime stats.It's a shame you missed out on the era of Brentwood threads. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 9 18:31:50 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 9 17:36:16 2026. Depends on the neighborhood. Most likely the same applies to Nashville. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 9 19:38:09 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 9 18:25:14 2026. How long ago was that?? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 9 23:53:22 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 9 19:38:09 2026. Almost 20 years ago.Brentwood, Central Islip, etc.......saw a huge increase in crime. President Trump was reading these boards and built his campaign around it. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Oct 10 02:27:12 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 9 23:53:22 2026. I seriously doubt Donald tRump read these boards |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 10 10:00:44 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 9 23:53:22 2026. "President Trump was reading these boards and built his campaign around it."I don't think so. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 10 11:13:46 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Oct 10 02:27:12 2026. If you look at the trajectory of his political career, and campaign issues, it's obvious that Trump, or one of his close advisors, does read these boards. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 10 11:25:13 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 10 10:00:44 2026. link |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 10 13:14:12 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 10 11:13:46 2026. LOL #37 |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 10 13:15:54 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 10 11:25:13 2026. Link don't work. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 10 13:47:29 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 10 13:15:54 2026. The link does work.It's the link to my Jimmymc25 reply. Trump, or his close advisors, certainly read OT. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Oct 10 20:46:23 2026, in response to AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Oct 9 14:09:27 2026. Do Austin next |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Oct 10 21:30:31 2026, in response to AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Oct 9 14:09:27 2026. Why do you hate NYC so much? Have you been stuck here or something? You're like the mirror image of this guy. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Oct 10 22:20:01 2026, in response to AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Oct 9 14:09:27 2026. Not true. What makes Nashville great?Somalians. Or is it ethopians. All of the signs in the airport.... |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Oct 11 10:06:49 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Oct 10 21:30:31 2026. New Yorkers are like ostriches with their heads buried in the sand, completely oblivious to the city and state’s slow-motion suicide around them. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 11 11:13:55 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Oct 11 10:06:49 2026. Maybe so, but why do you never make the following observation for which there is far more evidence: |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Oct 11 12:37:23 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 11 11:13:55 2026. Whatever mayhem Trump may be causing at least affects the whole country more or less equally. New York’s self-destructive policies don’t extend to other states, and therefore are causing an outflow of productive working age people. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 11 15:40:37 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Oct 11 12:37:23 2026. If there was such an outpouring of "productive working age people", How come apartments in NYC are charging between $5 & 6k per month...and getting it? Basic economics come into play here. If there were no takers, the rents would come down. That aint happening. In some places there are waiting lists. Something about the price the market will bear rule kickin in. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 11 16:55:25 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 11 15:40:37 2026. Peter pines for a NYC where there is much less regulation, so it becomes profitable to buy and tear down single family homes in the outer boroughs and replace them with middle class 10 story apartment buildings and tear down 5 story apartment buildings in Manhattan and replace them with 30 story buildings.In other words, Hong Kong without the commies. It's a potential alternate world, where NYC's population grows by leaps and bounds. It would make NYC an even greater concentration of wealth than it already is, but at a big cost. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 11 19:30:51 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 11 16:55:25 2026. New York is the REAL Hong Kong. No harbor is more fragrant than the Gowanus Canal. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Oct 11 19:36:18 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 11 16:55:25 2026. Not quite. I’d rather see a city where there are far more factories. Several years ago I read that NYC has 100 million square feet of industrial space … and Chicago has a *billion.* |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 11 19:42:44 2026, in response to Re: AI on why Nashville is so successful even as NYC declines, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Oct 11 19:36:18 2026. Factories don't generate as much economic activity per square foot as office buildings. NYC is using its commercial space more efficiently.The one way NYC isn't using its space efficiently is housing*. I'm not personally complaining about that but I do acknowledge the inefficiency of it. * Which drives up rents and ownership costs. |
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